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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #240 - Oct 27th, 2018 at 7:53pm
 
Well done Frank. Grin Grin Grin I can imagine Brian's dirty great grandfather taking advantage of the natives.
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Reply #241 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 6:30am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:04pm:
So, then Hammer, you do have a "lick o' the tar brush" in your family tree? 



How dare you???!!!  So racist and supremacist, Bwian.  How dare you use such obviously racist and derogatory language?? You are a despicable racist supremacist white privilege hypocrite, labelling anyone who has had any Aboriginal ancestry as being 'tarred'!!!! An obviously racist connotation and denigration of people of colour.


BAN HIM, MODERATORS!!!!  THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!


That's right, old boy. I believe the correct term is tinted.
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Reply #242 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 10:07am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 12:46pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 1:07am:
Who cares about your ancestry?  We care about the here and now and what it means for us as individuals and as a nation.

If the Islamites had taken over instead of Whitey, the keffir Kaffirs would be in dire straits today... if they existed at all they would be paying homage to the Islamite masters and living under strict religious laws that would probably kill many of them...

Standing up for your culture and connection with the land would mean you were insulting Islam and The Prophet... you would be hanged or beheaded....

Why do you defend this?  Do you see some common cause as a minority with the Muslims?

Perhaps you should sit down with their leaders and work out an equitable strategy that helps you both...

That would be fun to watch....


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Graps, I am glad you're not concerned about my ancestry.  Neither am I.   Soren however appears to have a new bee in his bonnet.

As for why I defend Muslims - I do not believe anybody deserves to be persecuted simply because of their religious beliefs.   All the Muslims I have known - I have served with/studied with/worked with many - have been decent, hard working, honest, law abiding people.   I do not doubt there are some Muslims who aren't but I've never encountered one.   The Muslims today are treated in exactly the same way Catholics, the Jews, the Irish, the Indigenous Australians, the Indochinese have been in the past.  Isn't it time we learnt from our previous mistakes?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Brian - Muslims are not oppressed here - they have the same rights as everyone else and then some considering the 'politics of inclusion'.

I have yet to hear from anyone how Muslims are oppressed in Australia.  Someone cat-called a chick in a burka?  I'm heart-broken.

I'm not going to go over the endless list of rights that Muslims enjoy here, as opposed to 'there', and the peace they have here compared to 'back home', and how they simply cannot accept that and accommodate themselves to it, but persist in their centuries old war against everyone and their supremacist attitude, which most find laughable given the realities.
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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #243 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 1:34pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 7:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 12:52pm:
Did one of your ancestors take advantage of some poor aboriginal lady Brian?


Nope.  It was consensual by family accounts, Hammer.   Do you have a "lick o' the tar brush" in your family tree somewhere?   Roll Eyes

Consensual?


Consensual.  You know, where a man and a woman make love together?

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Bribed her with a bottle of grog for a sly root and got her up the duff.


So, then Hammer, you do have a "lick o' the tar brush" in your family tree?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  What does that do for your white supremacist views?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes

My family didn't fraternise with the natives Brian. We didn't try to breed them out like your horny great grandfather did.


Yes, I can just imagine you, hiding in your little hovel in The Rocks, rather than daring to go out and experience life in Australia as it was.   Poor, poor, Hammer, all you do nowadays is hide in your basement and wonder why not one else doesn't hate the Indigenous Australians like you, despite you never actually coming into contact with any.   Keep trying, Hammer, if you bang the rocks together, eventually you'll work it out.    Roll Eyes
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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #244 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 1:36pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 5:04pm:
So, then Hammer, you do have a "lick o' the tar brush" in your family tree? 


How dare you???!!!  So racist and supremacist, Bwian.  How dare you use such obviously racist and derogatory language?? You are a despicable racist supremacist white privilege hypocrite, labelling anyone who has had any Aboriginal ancestry as being 'tarred'!!!! An obviously racist connotation and denigration of people of colour.

BAN HIM, MODERATORS!!!!  THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!


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Reply #245 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 1:39pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 10:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 12:46pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 1:07am:
Who cares about your ancestry?  We care about the here and now and what it means for us as individuals and as a nation.

If the Islamites had taken over instead of Whitey, the keffir Kaffirs would be in dire straits today... if they existed at all they would be paying homage to the Islamite masters and living under strict religious laws that would probably kill many of them...

Standing up for your culture and connection with the land would mean you were insulting Islam and The Prophet... you would be hanged or beheaded....

Why do you defend this?  Do you see some common cause as a minority with the Muslims?

Perhaps you should sit down with their leaders and work out an equitable strategy that helps you both...

That would be fun to watch....


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Graps, I am glad you're not concerned about my ancestry.  Neither am I.   Soren however appears to have a new bee in his bonnet.

As for why I defend Muslims - I do not believe anybody deserves to be persecuted simply because of their religious beliefs.   All the Muslims I have known - I have served with/studied with/worked with many - have been decent, hard working, honest, law abiding people.   I do not doubt there are some Muslims who aren't but I've never encountered one.   The Muslims today are treated in exactly the same way Catholics, the Jews, the Irish, the Indigenous Australians, the Indochinese have been in the past.  Isn't it time we learnt from our previous mistakes?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Brian - Muslims are not oppressed here - they have the same rights as everyone else and then some considering the 'politics of inclusion'.

I have yet to hear from anyone how Muslims are oppressed in Australia.  Someone cat-called a chick in a burka?  I'm heart-broken.

I'm not going to go over the endless list of rights that Muslims enjoy here, as opposed to 'there', and the peace they have here compared to 'back home', and how they simply cannot accept that and accommodate themselves to it, but persist in their centuries old war against everyone and their supremacist attitude, which most find laughable given the realities.


Tell me, Graps, what is your opinion about the building of Mosques in Australian towns/cities?

What do you think about the way Muslims are continually portrayed in the MSM?  Fair?  Balanced?

What do you think about the way Muslims are continually portrayed online in forums like this?  Fair?  Balanced?

What do you think about the way Muslims are all too often treated in Australian society?   Fair?  Balanced?

I'd be interested in reading your response.
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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #246 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 2:50pm
 
Facts are facts:

AUSTRALIAN TERRORIST THREATS

NATIONAL SECURITY HOTLINE 1800 123 400:

Currently, 26 organisations are listed as terrorist organisations under the Criminal Code. They are:

•Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) •Al-Murabitun •Al-Qa'ida (AQ) •Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) •Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS) •Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) •Al-Shabaab •Boko Haram •Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades •Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO) •Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan •Islamic State •Islamic State East Asia •Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya) •Islamic State Khorasan Province •Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai) •Jabhat al-Nusra •Jaish-e-Mohammad •Jama’at Mujahideen Bangladesh •Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA) •Jemaah Anshorut Daulah
•Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) •Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) •Lashkar-e Jhangvi •Lashkar-e-Tayyiba •Palestinian Islamic Jihad


&

EUROPOL TERRORISM

Terrorism

The overall terrorist threat to the security of the EUremains acute.


The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism and the closely related phenomenon of foreign terrorist fighters who travel to and from conflict zones.

Recent attacks in the EU demonstrate the intent and capability of jihadist terrorists to inflict mass casualties on urban populations in an effort to induce a high state of well-publicised terror.

The carefully planned attacks continue to demonstrate the elevated threat to the EU from an extremist minority, operationally based in the Middle East, combined with a network of people born and raised in the EU, often radicalised within a short space of time, who have proven willing and able to act as facilitators and active accomplices in terrorism.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. While there was a large number of terrorist attacks not connected with jihadism, the latter accounts for the most serious forms of terrorist activity as nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


It iS abundantly clear that islamic religious terrorism is the main concern for Australian and European counter terrorism units.

The qur'an plays a major role in islamic religious terrorism (remember jihadist terrorism is the main threat), so the qur'an in it's present form represents a clear cut threat to us all.

Every single muslim on this earth supports the qur'an as the infallible unchangeable words of allah.

If you support the cause you support the terrorism engendered.

Until muslims are honest enough to be responsible for jihadist terrorism and take steps to purge the evil in the qur'an, the problem of islamic terrorism will always be here.
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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #247 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 3:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 10:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 12:46pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 27th, 2018 at 1:07am:
Who cares about your ancestry?  We care about the here and now and what it means for us as individuals and as a nation.

If the Islamites had taken over instead of Whitey, the keffir Kaffirs would be in dire straits today... if they existed at all they would be paying homage to the Islamite masters and living under strict religious laws that would probably kill many of them...

Standing up for your culture and connection with the land would mean you were insulting Islam and The Prophet... you would be hanged or beheaded....

Why do you defend this?  Do you see some common cause as a minority with the Muslims?

Perhaps you should sit down with their leaders and work out an equitable strategy that helps you both...

That would be fun to watch....


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Graps, I am glad you're not concerned about my ancestry.  Neither am I.   Soren however appears to have a new bee in his bonnet.

As for why I defend Muslims - I do not believe anybody deserves to be persecuted simply because of their religious beliefs.   All the Muslims I have known - I have served with/studied with/worked with many - have been decent, hard working, honest, law abiding people.   I do not doubt there are some Muslims who aren't but I've never encountered one.   The Muslims today are treated in exactly the same way Catholics, the Jews, the Irish, the Indigenous Australians, the Indochinese have been in the past.  Isn't it time we learnt from our previous mistakes?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Brian - Muslims are not oppressed here - they have the same rights as everyone else and then some considering the 'politics of inclusion'.

I have yet to hear from anyone how Muslims are oppressed in Australia.  Someone cat-called a chick in a burka?  I'm heart-broken.

I'm not going to go over the endless list of rights that Muslims enjoy here, as opposed to 'there', and the peace they have here compared to 'back home', and how they simply cannot accept that and accommodate themselves to it, but persist in their centuries old war against everyone and their supremacist attitude, which most find laughable given the realities.


Tell me, Graps, what is your opinion about the building of Mosques in Australian towns/cities?

What do you think about the way Muslims are continually portrayed in the MSM?  Fair?  Balanced?

What do you think about the way Muslims are continually portrayed online in forums like this?  Fair?  Balanced?

What do you think about the way Muslims are all too often treated in Australian society?   Fair?  Balanced?

I'd be interested in reading your response.   


My view?  They can build a house of worship as long as it respects the neighbours like any other church... and as long as the religion taught does not include killing other people etc.  How many Christian churches are being built in Muslim controlled territories in Oz? 

Muslims portray themselves in a bad light by holding up placards saying to cut heads of Infidels and such... by hiding in their ghettoes and refusing to condemn those who act out their violent religious teachings.... and by deliberately seeking NOT to assimilate but to remain separate and, in their eyes ONLY, superior.

People online are pointing out the real problems with many Muslims - the same ones they as a group will not address.  If they'd just stop ranting about killing people, and supporting attacks on innocents, they'd get much better coverage.

How do I know how Muslims are 'far too often' treated in Australia?  How are they treated in Australia?  Cat-called by the occasional lout passing by?

I haven't yet received a reply that shows any entrenched and systematic oppression of Muslims here... in fact the opposite - they are given affirmative action to bring them up to speed for a start, and, unlike 'back home', are not subject to any rigorous constraints or fear of being night and fogged for some strange reason.
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Re: 423 new mosques, 100 Shariah courts
Reply #248 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 4:18pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 3:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
Tell me, Graps, what is your opinion about the building of Mosques in Australian towns/cities?

What do you think about the way Muslims are continually portrayed in the MSM?  Fair?  Balanced?

What do you think about the way Muslims are continually portrayed online in forums like this?  Fair?  Balanced?

What do you think about the way Muslims are all too often treated in Australian society?   Fair?  Balanced?

I'd be interested in reading your response.   


My view?  They can build a house of worship as long as it respects the neighbours like any other church... and as long as the religion taught does not include killing other people etc.  How many Christian churches are being built in Muslim controlled territories in Oz? 


Care to demonstrate where there are any "Muslim controlled territories in Oz"?

Churches have a far easier time being build around Australia than do Mosques.  We have observed through the MSM the frequent Islamophobic demonstrations in Ballarat and elsewhere.   We have observed other religious temples (ie Sikh/Buddhist/Hindu/etc) being attacked by Islamophobes.   When Synagogues are attacked, the MSM are all over it.  When a Muslim or other religious site is attacked, there is at most a brief news mention and it disappears from view immediately.  Funny that, hey, Graps?

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Muslims portray themselves in a bad light by holding up placards saying to cut heads of Infidels and such... by hiding in their ghettoes and refusing to condemn those who act out their violent religious teachings.... and by deliberately seeking NOT to assimilate but to remain separate and, in their eyes ONLY, superior.


Some Muslims may do that.  Should you condemn all Muslims as a consequence?  Tell me, do you condemn all Jews because of the antics of the Israelis?  Do you condemn all Hindus because of the antics of the Indians?   I think it's time you got a little more realistic, Graps.  Your story isn't holding up under the torchlight of reasoned argument.

The majority of Muslims don't hold up placards, the majority of Muslims do assimilate, they do not remain separate, they do not believe themselves to be superior.  They are like all other immigrant groups - they band together, they live near to people who are similar to them because they feel that they are not wanted here - something the majority of Australians appear to voice an opinion on.    Roll Eyes

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People online are pointing out the real problems with many Muslims - the same ones they as a group will not address.  If they'd just stop ranting about killing people, and supporting attacks on innocents, they'd get much better coverage.


How do you know if they are addressing what you believe has been identified as a "problem", Graps?   How do you know what Muslims are saying or doing within their own communities?  Tell us, do you read or understand Arabic or other languages commonly spoken there?  Do you attend Mosque?

Muslims are and have address all the problems.  Few Muslims want to see their daughters married off at the age of 9.   Few Muslims want to live like their parents and grand-parents.  They want to live an Australian Muslim lifestyle.  A lifestyle which they are allowed to live in our Multi-Religous/Multicultural society.  They don't break laws, they don't offend other people (unless the person is Islamophobic and nothing they do, except convert to Christianity will appease them).  They just want their choices to be respected - exactly as the choices of all other Australians are respected.

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How do I know how Muslims are 'far too often' treated in Australia?  How are they treated in Australia?  Cat-called by the occasional lout passing by?


And their women are being physically assaulted, their clothing ripped off, their children being assaulted and insulted, they themselves are having their religion insulted.  Graps why doesn't that happen to Christians?  Why doesn't it happen to Buddhists, Hindus, etc.?

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I haven't yet received a reply that shows any entrenched and systematic oppression of Muslims here... in fact the opposite - they are given affirmative action to bring them up to speed for a start, and, unlike 'back home', are not subject to any rigorous constraints or fear of being night and fogged for some strange reason.


You aren't opening your eyes/ears, Graps.   No one else is willing to take you one because they are nearly all Islamophobes.  I suspect you're partly right and partly wrong.  Muslims aren't suffering hard-line oppression - they aren't being rounded up, shipped off to re-education camps in cattle trucks as is apparently happening in Xinjiang in China.   They aren't being forced to shave off their beards, they aren't seeing their Mosques closed.   They are though suffering low-level oppression.  They are being assaulted, they are being insulted, they are being prevented from building Mosques, they are being told their religion is wrong continually, they are being blamed for the antics of the tiny minority overseas who are Terrorists.   This is the sort of bullshit that the Jews were forced to put up with until the 1950s downunder.   This is the sort of bullshit that Catholics were forced to put with until the 1960s.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #249 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 5:38pm
 
Free Islamia?  Bankistan for one... no new churches there...
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Reply #250 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:22pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 5:38pm:
Free Islamia?  Bankistan for one... no new churches there...


Sure that isn't 'cause of falling attendances at Christian Churches, Graps?  Remember, two thirds of the population now isn't religious at all.   So, the number of Churches right across Australia is shrinking fairly rapidly...    Roll Eyes
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Reply #251 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:48pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:22pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 5:38pm:
Free Islamia?  Bankistan for one... no new churches there...


Sure that isn't 'cause of falling attendances at Christian Churches, Graps?  Remember, two thirds of the population now isn't religious at all.   So, the number of Churches right across Australia is shrinking fairly rapidly...    Roll Eyes

So now two thirds of the population are not religious, given the amount of religions what percentage of the religious population is Islam.
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Reply #252 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:57pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:22pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 5:38pm:
Free Islamia?  Bankistan for one... no new churches there...


Sure that isn't 'cause of falling attendances at Christian Churches, Graps?  Remember, two thirds of the population now isn't religious at all.   So, the number of Churches right across Australia is shrinking fairly rapidly...    Roll Eyes

So now two thirds of the population are not religious, given the amount of religions what percentage of the religious population is Islam.


Google:

Every Moslem - is a Moslem.
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Reply #253 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:58pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:57pm:
Johnnie wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:22pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 5:38pm:
Free Islamia?  Bankistan for one... no new churches there...


Sure that isn't 'cause of falling attendances at Christian Churches, Graps?  Remember, two thirds of the population now isn't religious at all.   So, the number of Churches right across Australia is shrinking fairly rapidly...    Roll Eyes

So now two thirds of the population are not religious, given the amount of religions what percentage of the religious population is Islam.


Google:

Every Moslem is a Moslem.

I will ask Yadda.
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Reply #254 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 8:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 28th, 2018 at 4:18pm:
And their women are being physically assaulted, their clothing ripped off, their children being assaulted and insulted, they themselves are having their religion insulted.  Graps why doesn't that happen to Christians?  Why doesn't it happen to Buddhists, Hindus, etc.?


Can you give us a demonstration of these offences? We know Australian women have been assaulted and raped by Muslims, some may have been Christian, do you have evidence of it happening the other way around? Who is assaulting and insulting their children? I thought I read their children were insulting and threatening death to female teachers. Their religion deserves to be insulted as do all religions, tough titties.
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