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Reply #330 - Jan 15^th, 2019 at 3:26pm

Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.

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Reply #331 - Jan 15^th, 2019 at 3:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 12:47pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 12:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 9:39am:

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 8:09pm:

It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.

What call is it exactly though?

You pretty much said you couldn't be sure if less net people would have died without Islam. So what exactly do you mean by "You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops"? Are you merely making the rather pointless point that without Islam there would be no err.. "Islamic" slaughter - but says nothing about who else might take up the slack? If you really have nothing else, then you are not making any sort of case that Islam is a cause for violence, as opposed to an excuse for it.

For starters, it means ISIS would not exist. Given how unique ISIS is in both stupidity and evil, it's kind of hard to say that something equally sinister would just replace. Though plenty appear to make that argument, but they tend to run away from it in the end. You are clever enough to not make it in the beginning.

Thats just evasive waffling FD. I asked you a specific question - what "call" are you specifically making?

You don't seem to be making any call at all - other than to basically agree with me that there is no real reason or evidence at all to contend that Islam is a cause for slaughter/terrorism, as opposed to an excuse for it.

Islam causes people who otherwise have no links to the middle east to travel there, engage in rape and pillage, destroy democracy, and post photos of headless corpses on facebook.

Greg I believe (or perhaps one of the other apologists) has previously argued that these people would be doing the same sort of rape and pillage across western sydney if they were not Muslims. Is that the position you are taking? Or are you trying to disagree with me while not taking any alternative position?

Maybe not the same sort, but definitely some sort.

Starting a new Caliphate?

Anything remotely similar to what they are doing in the middle east?

There would be violence; murder.

Or, are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

Surely not.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #332 - Jan 15^th, 2019 at 3:53pm

Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?
I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.

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Reply #333 - Jan 15^th, 2019 at 4:04pm

moses wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.

FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

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Reply #334 - Jan 15^th, 2019 at 5:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

moses wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.

FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?

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Reply #335 - Jan 15^th, 2019 at 5:23pm

Frank wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

moses wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.

FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?

Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?

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Reply #336 - Jan 15^th, 2019 at 5:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

moses wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.

FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?

Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?

Lone wolves. Muslim sadists and murderers are forming Islamic States and murdering for worldwide Islamic domination and the Caliphate. All the others are sad and lonely evil bastards, only Islam's black flag gathers the sadists and murderers in an organised, cohesive manner.

It's the ideology: Submit or we kill you.

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Reply #337 - Jan 15^th, 2019 at 8:56pm

moses wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

You have absolutely no idea about Genetics, do you, Moses? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people. Tsk, tsk, what a shame that reality does not support that, hey? Run along, back to your little Church where they preach hatred against anybody not a Christian. Roll Eyes

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Reply #338 - Jan 15^th, 2019 at 8:58pm

Frank wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 5:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 4:04pm:

moses wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Well if muslims are not influenced by the evil in the qur'an and it's all some genetic defect that causes them to be the worlds top listed terrorists, what can we do with a people who have this wide spread genetic defect that causes muslims to be the worlds mass murderers, torturers and rapists?

Should muslims be subject to excessive over the top scrutiny to try and weed out those with this genetic deficiency?

Should muslims be kept away from the rest of the civilized people until we have some way of figuring out how to recognize the ones with this d.n.a. defect?

I mean just what in the hell are the apologists and the *moderates* on about here?

I'm not convinced by their mental gymnastics trying to excuse islam for it's role in the makeup of the islamic terrorist.

I still firmly believe that telling the truth about the evil in the qur'an is the only way to deal with the problem.

We can bomb the perps into submission now, but that will not ensure it does not happen again, it's only bombing the problem under the carpet, so to speak.

FD: are you suggesting that if it wasn't for Islam, the individual members of ISIS would all be good little law-abiding citizens?

What is it about Islam that attracts all those sadists and murderers?

Why is it that most of the sadists and murderers in the world aren't Muslims?

Lone wolves. Muslim sadists and murderers are forming Islamic States and murdering for worldwide Islamic domination and the Caliphate. All the others are sad and lonely evil bastards, only Islam's black flag gathers the sadists and murderers in an organised, cohesive manner.

It's the ideology: Submit or we kill you.

Aren't we lucky that the overwhelming majority of Muslims reject Daesh and it's "Black Flag", Soren? Once more, reality trips you up as you spout your Islamophobic hatred. Roll Eyes

What a shame though, it destroys your hatred and Islamophobia towards all Muslims. Tsk, tsk, run along, I can hear your friends in the little kiddies' playground calling you back to them. Roll Eyes

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 99048	Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics Reply #340 - Jan 15^th, 2019 at 10:39pm freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 9:31pm: Quote: Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people. How do you interpret this Greg? http://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/images/Global_prevalence_of_consanguinity.png You?
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Reply #341 - Jan 16^th, 2019 at 5:56am

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

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Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people.

How do you interpret this Greg?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/images/Global_prevalence_of_consanguinity.png

Whites are superior beings?

Definitely not racist though.

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Reply #342 - Jan 16^th, 2019 at 11:38am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 16^th, 2019 at 5:56am:

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

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Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people.

How do you interpret this Greg?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/images/Global_prevalence_of_consanguinity.png

Whites are superior beings?

Definitely not racist though.

I think FD's saying Whites and Chows are superior beings, G. We'll ask FD.

FD, are you saying Decent White People, along with Chows and their Tree Monkey brothers, are superior to the Muselman and the Negroid?

That's a question.

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Reply #343 - Jan 16^th, 2019 at 12:14pm

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

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Next you'll be trying to tell us that Muslims are genetically less intelligent than White, Christian people.

How do you interpret this Greg?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/images/Global_prevalence_of_consanguinity.png

I'd like to do a musical interpretation.

Well I've got a gal, she's as cute as she can be
She's a distant cousin but she's not too distant with me
We'll kiss all night
I'll squeeze her tight
But we're kissin' cousins 'n that's what makes it all right
All right, all right, all right

Oh I've got a girl and she taught me how to live
She can give a lot and she's got a lot to give
We'll kiss all night
I'll squeeze her tight
But we're kissin' cousins 'n that's what makes it all right
All right, all right, all right

Yes we're all cousins, that's what I believe
Because we're children of Adam and Eve
I got a girl and she wants a lot of love
That's the kind of trouble I need plenty of
We'll kiss all night
I'll squeeze her tight
But we're kissin' cousins 'n that'll make it all right
All right, all right, all right

We'll be kissin' cousins that'll make it all right
All right, all right, all right

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Reply #344 - Jan 16^th, 2019 at 1:28pm

What I find interesting from that map is that Australia, Canada, China and India have a largish proportion of cousins marrying cousins yet it seems they go unnoticed in FD's Islamophobia. What is even more interesting is that Indonesia, Bangladesh and the central Asian Republics don't have cousins marrying cousins. Of course, they're all Muslims as well... Roll Eyes

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