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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #300 - Jan 11^th, 2019 at 8:44pm

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

Do you have to be ignorant and blindingly obstinate to cultivate deep personal flaws like Bwian's to the point that he definitely can't see the evils of his idiocy and the role it plays in the degeneracy of the fundamentalist spineless apologist?

Er.... yes.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, Soren loses again and reaches into his pocket to find some tired old ad hominem insults. Poor, poor, Soren. Roll Eyes

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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #301 - Jan 11^th, 2019 at 8:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 3:05pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

[font=Verdana][/font]freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.

The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.

Yes, but I think FD's Marxist button has been triggered. Since his switch from liberal democracy to white supremacism, he's had to reconfigure his social and political triggers.

Mistie, for example, would call your reference to alienation "progressivism". Aquascoot would call it beta leftardism. FD would brand you a communist.

And we all know what the Nazis did with them, no?

Ha mistie! - I'd forgotton all about him. What an unpleasant reminder. Someone who was quite possibly even more annoying than FD.

Yes, good old Mistie.

What were his other names?

Can't for the life of me remember them.

He had three different identities.

http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/120509/nn_09ellis_janitor_1...

hehe I always chuckled every time I saw that picture.

Much like aqua can never seem to make a post without mentioning the words "alpha male", mistie was singularly incapable of constructing any argument without throwing in those dastardly "progressives" somewhere - the root of all evil, of course.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #302 - Jan 11^th, 2019 at 9:12pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 8:42pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 3:05pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

[font=Verdana][/font]freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.

The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.

Yes, but I think FD's Marxist button has been triggered. Since his switch from liberal democracy to white supremacism, he's had to reconfigure his social and political triggers.

Mistie, for example, would call your reference to alienation "progressivism". Aquascoot would call it beta leftardism. FD would brand you a communist.

And we all know what the Nazis did with them, no?

Ha mistie! - I'd forgotton all about him. What an unpleasant reminder. Someone who was quite possibly even more annoying than FD.

Yes, good old Mistie.

What were his other names?

Can't for the life of me remember them.

He had three different identities.

http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/120509/nn_09ellis_janitor_1...

hehe I always chuckled every time I saw that picture.

Much like aqua can never seem to make a post without mentioning the words "alpha male", mistie was singularly incapable of constructing any argument without throwing in those dastardly "progressives" somewhere - the root of all evil, of course.

Don't you laugh. FD's about to get you for being an enemy of the people, a gen-u-wine Marxist traitor, how very dare you.

If you want this to stop, you know just what you have to do.

Blame Islam.

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Reply #303 - Jan 11^th, 2019 at 9:38pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.

The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.

Being teased at school plays a possible role as well. And being smacked by your mother, mistreated by police, robbed, etc. But it takes Islam to turn that anger into divinely-sanctioned rape and pillage.

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Reply #304 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 8:04am

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.

The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.

Being teased at school plays a possible role as well. And being smacked by your mother, mistreated by police, robbed, etc. But it takes Islam to turn that anger into divinely-sanctioned rape and pillage.

So I take it you are willing to concede that Islam may not be a root cause of terrorism - merely an excuse for terrorism?

In this case, why all the sneering and jeering at the idea that things besides Islam should be investigated as root causes?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #305 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 1:53pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 8:04am:

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

Gandalf used to go on about 'alienation' because the cause of western terrorists - the solution of course being more Mosques in the west, preferably government funded. But he hasn't pushed this theory in a while.

The mind boggles thinking about how ignorant or blindingly obstinate you would have to be to reject out of hand the idea that alienation plays any possible role.

Being teased at school plays a possible role as well. And being smacked by your mother, mistreated by police, robbed, etc. But it takes Islam to turn that anger into divinely-sanctioned rape and pillage.

So I take it you are willing to concede that Islam may not be a root cause of terrorism - merely an excuse for terrorism?

In this case, why all the sneering and jeering at the idea that things besides Islam should be investigated as root causes?

No Gandalf. It is a cause. You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops. You take away all the other things that play a 'role' and you still get rich, white, spoilt kids who have converted to Islam travelling halfway round the world to rape and pillage for the Caliphate, because Islam ordains fighting for them.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics Reply #306 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 3:16pm freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 1:53pm: You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops. really? Says who? Big call there.
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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics Reply #307 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 3:55pm allahu akbar?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146481 Gender:	Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics Reply #308 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 4:02pm "Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners." White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners
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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #309 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 4:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 4:02pm:

"Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners."

White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners

"... two independent studies issued last month show that the number of Muslim Americans associated with violent extremism in 2017 continued to fall, and the number of Americans killed by white supremacists in the U.S. last year was far higher than those killed by Muslim extremists.

"More specifically, over the last decade 71 percent of all terrorism-related fatalities have been linked to domestic right-wing extremists, while 26 percent of the killings were committed by Islamic extremists."

More Americans killed by white supremecists than Muslim extremists, studies show

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Reply #310 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 5:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 4:02pm:

"Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners."

White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners

Yes, Greggery, but FD's saying that if you took away Islam, they'd stop too.

It takes two to tango, you know. If the Muselman won't stop, why should Whitey?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics Reply #312 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 7:53pm they wouldn't exist FD. But whats your point? Are you seriously saying there would be net less killings in the world without Islam? Big call if are. no, huge call.
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Reply #313 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 8:01pm

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 7:22pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 3:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 1:53pm:

You take away Islam, and the slaughter stops.

really? Says who?

Big call there.

How would ISIS be fairing without Islam?

The individual members would still be sociopathic killers.

They'd just find some other reason to justify their violence.

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Reply #314 - Jan 14^th, 2019 at 8:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 7:53pm:

they wouldn't exist FD.

But whats your point? Are you seriously saying there would be net less killings in the world without Islam? Big call if are. no, huge call.

That's like asking someone if they would kill Hitler if they had a chance to go back in time. The alternative is to defend Hitler on the risk that someone even worse may have come along if not for the warning Hitler was to the world. Sure it is theoretically possible, but as you say, ISIS would not exist without Islam, and neither would a hundred other organisations bent on evil. The thing that stands out most about ISIS is the futility and idiocy of it. They are never going to win, and they are fighting against the establishment of democracy in Iraq. Only Islam would let someone from the other side of the world with no particular emotional investment convince themselves that ISIS is the right path.

It is a big call, yet I make it, and you have not disagreed with it.

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