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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #240 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:20pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.

Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer. Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit? Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise? You need to get out from your mother's basement. It's not healthy down there. Roll Eyes

look harder douche nozzle.

I looked harder.

Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

Ah.

Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

Ah Roll Eyes

Starting to make sense now.

Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.

Hmm, who should we believe:

- the police, or

- a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

or the victims brother who was at the scene.

The police.

Any reasonable person would take notice of the police, rather than a direct relative or a right-wing terrorist who has a grudge against police and Muslims.

Reasonable, and objective - something quite alien to you, I know.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #241 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:22pm

This is what Tommy put out on facebook-

I have been informed by his family that this serving soldier was out celebrating the new year in Batley when he was overheard in conversation with his friend talking about his last tour. It is alleged that around 15 Muslim males took offence to him being a serving soldier, started intimidating him calling him scum. It escalated and he and his friend were set upon by 15 males. This young soldier tried to step away across the road to diffuse the situation. It is then alleged that one of the Muslim males got into his Mercedes and proceeded to mount the kerb and mow down the soldier at circa 50mph according to an eyewitness. The Soldier is in the intensive care at Leeds Hospital. According to individuals who were at the scene this was sparked over a conversation about him in the forces. If it is politically motivated due to him serving in the forces then should it not be treated as a terrorist attack? Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel?? My thoughts are with this young man's family who have been in contact with me to inform me of the details and asked me to share. I hope he can recover from what would appear to be potentially another politically motivated attack. a go fund me page has been set up for the soldier

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #242 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:24pm

"Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

"His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

"He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #243 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.

Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer. Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit? Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise? You need to get out from your mother's basement. It's not healthy down there. Roll Eyes

look harder douche nozzle.

I looked harder.

Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

Ah.

Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

Ah Roll Eyes

Starting to make sense now.

Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.

Hmm, who should we believe:

- the police, or

- a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #244 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:26pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel??

Hit and runs happen every day, all over the world.

Only a few, every now and then, make it to the nightly news.

Now, back to Tommy:

"Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

"His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

"He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #245 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel??

Hit and runs happen every day, all over the world.

Only a few, every now and then, make it to the nightly news.

Now, back to Tommy:

"Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

"His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

"He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."

hit and run? Grin

That was attempted murder using a motor vehicle muppet. Grin

ISIS style!

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #246 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:53pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel??

Hit and runs happen every day, all over the world.

Only a few, every now and then, make it to the nightly news.

Now, back to Tommy:

"Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

"His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

"He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."

hit and run? Grin

That was attempted murder using a motor vehicle muppet. Grin

ISIS style!

If a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer says so, then it must be true?

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #247 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel??

Hit and runs happen every day, all over the world.

Only a few, every now and then, make it to the nightly news.

Now, back to Tommy:

"Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

"His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

"He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."

hit and run? Grin

That was attempted murder using a motor vehicle muppet. Grin

ISIS style!

If a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer says so, then it must be true?

People with form can still tell the truth Pecca.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #248 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.

Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer. Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit? Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise? You need to get out from your mother's basement. It's not healthy down there. Roll Eyes

look harder douche nozzle.

No need to get insulting, Hammer. It just shows how childish you are. Tsk, tsk. Sounds like bullshit to me. I won't bother looking 'cause I cannot find anything... Roll Eyes

you won't look because you are a do-gooder.

Actually, I have found a report - because I didn't stop looking, Hammer. Appears to me, that your claims are based on Islamophobic claims. Rather typical of you and them, Hammer. The Police have found no evidence, thus far of Terrorism. No one appears to have claimed the event. Sounds to me like a common hit and run accident, nothing more. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

If it had been a white Anglo person driving that car his name and picture would be all over the internet. The plod being 'open minded' is code for 'it was a Muslim/third worlder but we mustn't say so'.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #249 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:35pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.

Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer. Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit? Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise? You need to get out from your mother's basement. It's not healthy down there. Roll Eyes

look harder douche nozzle.

I looked harder.

Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

Ah.

Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

Ah Roll Eyes

Starting to make sense now.

Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.

Hmm, who should we believe:

- the police, or

- a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.

Actually, he didn't. He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on. They complied. Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred.

Quote:

Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission

Quote:

The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

[Source]

Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Roll Eyes

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #250 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:36pm

Frank wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.

Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer. Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit? Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise? You need to get out from your mother's basement. It's not healthy down there. Roll Eyes

look harder douche nozzle.

No need to get insulting, Hammer. It just shows how childish you are. Tsk, tsk. Sounds like bullshit to me. I won't bother looking 'cause I cannot find anything... Roll Eyes

you won't look because you are a do-gooder.

Actually, I have found a report - because I didn't stop looking, Hammer. Appears to me, that your claims are based on Islamophobic claims. Rather typical of you and them, Hammer. The Police have found no evidence, thus far of Terrorism. No one appears to have claimed the event. Sounds to me like a common hit and run accident, nothing more. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

If it had been a white Anglo person driving that car his name and picture would be all over the internet. The plod being 'open minded' is code for 'it was a Muslim/third worlder but we mustn't say so'.

*SIGH*, Islamophobia, hey, Soren. How unusual for you. Stop wasting our time. Roll Eyes

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #251 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:39pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

Ask yourself why this is not on any news channel??

Hit and runs happen every day, all over the world.

Only a few, every now and then, make it to the nightly news.

Now, back to Tommy:

"Robinson was jailed for assault in 2005, has convictions for drugs offences and public order offences, was jailed in 2012 for illegally entering the United States using a false passport and jailed again in 2014 for a £160,000 mortgage fraud.

"His 2005 sentence was for assaulting an off-duty police officer who had come to the rescue of his girlfriend, now wife, during a drunken confrontation.

"He was convicted in 2011 of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans."

hit and run? Grin

That was attempted murder using a motor vehicle muppet. Grin

ISIS style!

If a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer says so, then it must be true?

People with form can still tell the truth Pecca.

He doesn't just have form.

He's an Islamophobe who hates cops.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #252 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.

Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer. Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit? Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise? You need to get out from your mother's basement. It's not healthy down there. Roll Eyes

look harder douche nozzle.

I looked harder.

Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

Ah.

Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

Ah Roll Eyes

Starting to make sense now.

Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.

Hmm, who should we believe:

- the police, or

- a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.

Actually, he didn't. He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on. They complied. Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred.

Quote:

Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission

Quote:

The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

[Source]

Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Roll Eyes

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #253 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:48pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.

Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer. Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit? Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise? You need to get out from your mother's basement. It's not healthy down there. Roll Eyes

look harder douche nozzle.

I looked harder.

Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

Ah.

Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

Ah Roll Eyes

Starting to make sense now.

Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.

Hmm, who should we believe:

- the police, or

- a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.

Actually, he didn't. He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on. They complied. Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred.

Quote:

Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission

Quote:

The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

[Source]

Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Roll Eyes

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.

Grin

That's right, folks: this is where Mr Hammer, once again, tries to change the subject (despite the fact that I've said on numerous occasions in this forum that I was never a fan or Nelson or his wife).

Let's see what subject he'll come up with next.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #254 - Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:48pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 3:35pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:37pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

There's one doing the rounds in the UK at the moment. A serving British soldier was intentionally runover by a car upon exiting a nightclub in the UK. Friends of the victim say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because of his service. The police and media say otherwise. If he was targeted then that's terrorism. Let's see where this goes. The media have no chance of sweeping this one under the rug.

Nothing shows up on a websearch about such an event, Hammer. Do you have a link to the story or is this just your usual, Islamophobic bullshit? Tsk, tsk, you really need a life, you realise? You need to get out from your mother's basement. It's not healthy down there. Roll Eyes

look harder douche nozzle.

I looked harder.

Chief Inspector Ben Ryder, said: “We would like to reassure service personnel that police have no evidence that the victim has been targeted due to his service in the army, or that it is motivated by racism."

So, why is Mr Hammer pursuing the Muslim terrorist angle?

Tommy Robinson and other far-right figures have called the incident a “terrorist attack” and claimed the perpetrators were “Muslim”.

Ah.

Who's Tommy Robinson, you may ask.

A violent far-right extremist who has served time in prison for assaulting a police officer.

Ah Roll Eyes

Starting to make sense now.

Watch the video Tommy Robinson put out. Tommy interviewed the victims brother and friends who were at the scene and they say he was targeted by a group of Muslim men because he was a soldier. Tommy said important witnesses haven't even been interviewed yet. True or not, it will come out. The days of covering things up are over.

Hmm, who should we believe:

- the police, or

- a violent, Islamophobic, far right-wing white-supremacist who's been in prison for assaulting a police officer?

Gonna have to think about that for a minute.

So? Nelson Mandela was a convicted murderer who blew kids and women to pieces.

Actually, he didn't. He instructed his subordinates to avoid civilian casualities as much as possible and to focus on attacking civilian infrastructure, such as power line towers and so on. They complied. Mandela was arrested on Terrorism charges but and note this, Hammer, no civilian casualties had occurred.

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Mandela was [initially] charged with inciting workers' strikes and leaving the country without permission

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The Rivonia Trial began at Pretoria Supreme Court in October, with Mandela and his comrades charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government

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Tsk, tsk, tripped up by history, yet again, hey? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Roll Eyes

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.

Grin

That's right, folks: this is where Mr Hammer, once again, tries to change the subject (despite the fact that I've said on numerous occasions in this forum that I was never a fan or Nelson or his wife).

Let's see what subject he'll come up with next.

Look at Pecca getting triggered because his hero murdered women and children. He's about to jizz all over his dungarees.

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