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Reply #120 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #121 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   Roll Eyes

So telling the truth is Islamophobia? Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #122 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   Roll Eyes


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   Roll Eyes



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #123 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   Roll Eyes


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   Roll Eyes



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   Roll Eyes



What DOES Paddy actually DO, cockwomble? How many are killed by Paddy compared to Mohammed? 

Why is the death toll irrelevant and the number of victimless events is all that matters, idiotic piss-soaked old fapper?




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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #124 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   Roll Eyes

So telling the truth is Islamophobia? Grin Grin Grin


He's telling the truth.  Then why is his nose growing longer, Hammer?  Mmmmm?    Roll Eyes
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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #125 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   Roll Eyes


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   Roll Eyes



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   Roll Eyes
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.
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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #126 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   Roll Eyes


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   Roll Eyes



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   Roll Eyes
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


From the 2018 Europol report:

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
30 were bombing incidents."


Thoughts?



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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #127 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   Roll Eyes


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   Roll Eyes



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   Roll Eyes


What DOES Paddy actually DO, cockwomble? How many are killed by Paddy compared to Mohammed? 

Why is the death toll irrelevant and the number of victimless events is all that matters, idiotic piss-soaked old fapper?


No one, as far as I am aware, has claimed that these Terrorist events are "victimless", Soren.  Nor have they claimed that the "death toll is irrelevant", except in your imagination.

How about you argue the facts that Greg has presented - most Terrorist incidents in Europe are committed by non-Islamists, instead of haring off in wild directions?  Or is that too hard for you?

I suspect it is, going by your past performance but I am always willing to give it a chance...   Roll Eyes
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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #128 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:12pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   Roll Eyes


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   Roll Eyes



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   Roll Eyes
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


From the 2018 Europol report:

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
30 were bombing incidents."


Thoughts?




Big Pecca. So how many people have been killed in Europe by the jihadis  compared to the Unionists and Republicans over the last 20 years Pecca?
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Reply #129 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:15pm
 
heres the point Brian, Pecca and you are attempting to mitigate Islamic terrorism using statistics. We know and its not in dispute that Islamic terrorism creates a far greater death toll than other types of terrorism. We also know that a lot of Islamic terrorism is aimed at the western world due to their hatred of us and our culture. You and Pecca are both apologists for this.
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Reply #130 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:16pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:08pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   Roll Eyes


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   Roll Eyes



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   Roll Eyes
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


From the 2018 Europol report:

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and
30 were bombing incidents."


Thoughts?




Big Pecca. So how many people have been killed in Europe by the jihadis  compared to the Unionists and Republicans over the last 20 years Pecca?


And there it is folks, once again.

When his argument is shot down in flames, Mr Hammer changes the subject.

To recap:

- the majority (84%) of terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Jihadism.

- there were 88 security-related incidents in Northern
Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents.
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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #131 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:16pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   Roll Eyes


The vast majority, the overwhelming majority of deaths and injuries by terrorist attacks in Europe, North America, Australia are due to Islamic jihad attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Islam, justified by Islamic doctrine, supported by other Muslims on the ground in their 'communities' and across the globe and they have been committing these murders for exclusively Islamic reasons.i
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Reply #132 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:17pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 2:20pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:
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Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   Roll Eyes


As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.


It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics.  You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness.  You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes.   Such silly billies.   Roll Eyes



Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.


You still refuse to accept reality, Soren.  Terrorism occurs most frequently in Europe when committed by non-Islamists.  It is indeed Paddy who commits the most Terrorist acts in Europe, not Mohammed.   Frequency - how often something occurs.  Get it yet?   Roll Eyes
Paddy? The last big bomb to go off was around 92  Brian. Get with the times.


Really?  That is not was related to a written question to the British Parliament a few months ago, Hammer:

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Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland:Written question - 179144
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Asked by Mr Gregory Campbell (East Londonderry) [N]
Asked on: 15 October 2018
Ministry of Defence
Bomb Disposal: Northern Ireland                                                                 179144
To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, on how many occasions Army bomb disposal units were called out in Northern Ireland between (a) 1 July 2014 and 1 July 2016 and (b) 1 July 2016 and 1 July 2018.
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Answered by: Mark Lancaster                                            Answered on: 18 October 2018

Incidents requiring explosive ordnance disposal experts in Northern Ireland are dealt with solely by military personnel. Between 1 July 2014 to 1 January 2016, Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) personnel have responded to 567 incidents in Northern Ireland. For the period 1 July 2016 to 1 July 2018, EOD personnel have responded to 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.

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Seems there were 526 incidents in Northern Ireland.  All quite a bit later than 1992.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #133 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:18pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 8:58pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 3:55pm:
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses?  Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness.  Two completely different things.  Don't you think it's time you realised that?  Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome?  Mmmm?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...


No it isn't.  It is Islamophobia to try and claim that most Terrorist attacks that occur in Europe are committed by Jihadists, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, now, that is Islamophobia.   Roll Eyes


The vast majority, the overwhelming majority of deaths and injuries by terrorist attacks in Europe, North America, Australia are due to Islamic jihad attacks committed by Muslims in the name of Islam, justified by Islamic doctrine, supported by other Muslims on the ground in their 'communities' and across the globe and they have been committing these murders for exclusively Islamic reasons.



That's incorrect, actually.

The majority of deaths in Australia from terrorist attacks, had nothing to do with Jihadism.

What will your next lie be?

I'm curious.
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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #134 - Jan 1st, 2019 at 9:21pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 12:04pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 11:40am:
Frank wrote on Jan 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.


I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren?  I have made no such claims.  I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics.  Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren.  A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing...   Roll Eyes



As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's  not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.





135 of the 142 killed in terrorist attacks were a result of  Islamic terrorists, muslims  are about 5% of the population in Europe, the other 7 killed were a result of non muslims who make up the other 95% of the population in Europe.

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Muslims make up 4.9% of Europe’s population in 2016

http://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/




In Pakistan which is 99% muslim how many die from terrorism in the land of the pure?
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Terrorism in Pakistan has become a major and highly destructive phenomenon in recent years. The annual death toll from terrorist attacks has risen from 164 in 2003 to 3318 in 2009,[1][2][3] with a total of 35,000 Pakistanis killed between 11 September 2001 and May 2011.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Pakistan



It woulld be interesting to add up Islamic terrorist deaths from all the countries where Islam dominates the demographics, oh dearie dearie me it doesn't look good tsk tsk tsk  Roll Eyes



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