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Reply #105 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 2:09pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 10:48am:

Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.

I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren? I have made no such claims. I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics. Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren. A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing... Roll Eyes

As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist treat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.

You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

They are near-harmless compared to the jihadi death toll, Turdy Mcwankpuffin.

There we have it, folks: a frank admission from the apologist.

I suspect he'll keep using misleading statistics, though.

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Reply #106 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 2:20pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 10:48am:

Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.

I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren? I have made no such claims. I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics. Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren. A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing... Roll Eyes

As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.

It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics. You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness. You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes. Such silly billies. Roll Eyes

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #107 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 2:21pm

freediver wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 1:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 11:37am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 10:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 9:31am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 8:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 8:17am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2018 at 9:44pm:

1. The statistics are misleading because the report makes in abundantly and repeatedly clear that Islamic jihadi terrorism is the biggest, most significant and most resource-intensive terrorist threat in Europe (and indeed around the world wherever Muslims are present).

2. Turd is using the numerical count of events that are classified as 'terrorist' related incidents and he tries to mislead about the truth of the above point.

Bwian, you are as thick and deceptive and stupid and way out of your depth as Turd, Arssie and the rest of the 'yeah-but' mail order fools. To F Orf with bells on is a new year resolution you should all make.

And a happy new year to you, Soren.

1. Greg has made no misrepresentation of the statistics that he has presented, as far as I am aware. He has made a simple statement ("most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature") which is factually true. You and other Islamophobes refuse to accept what the EurPol report has claimed for reasons based, I suspect on your Islamophobia.

2. This has not been "misleading" at all. You believe Islam is the greatest Terrorist threat and refuse to accept any information that refutes that point, even if it is from official EuroPol reports. Greg has been factually correct, "most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature". Now you and FD and other Islamophobes can either swallow reality or you can keep on your own Jihad against Muslims or in other words, you can look even sillier than you presently do. Roll Eyes

Brian you appear unable to distinguish between misleading and "factually incorrect". Are you having trouble comprehending the question, or are you just afraid of your own opinion? Why do apologists for Islamic terrorism inevitably take on the slipperyness of the Muslims they are defending?

Do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. More questions. When you answer mine, FD, I may answer yours. OK? Now run along, back to the little kiddies' playground... Roll Eyes

So you *might* reveal to us whether you are brave enough to form your own opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?

You won't know until you answer my questions, Freediver, now will you? Roll Eyes

I know you are afraid of your own opinion on the matter.

I fear nothing of the sort, FD. When you answer my questions, I may answer yours. Will you? No, it appears you're the one who is afraid of his own opinion... Roll Eyes

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Reply #108 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:15pm

gpeck reply 89 wrote

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The side of non-Jihadist terrorists?

The Europol report shows that the vast majority of terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Jihadism, moses.

Why do you continually defend the 84% of terrorists who aren't Muslims?

I'm curious

The terrorist threat level in Europe is acute.

The vast majority of terrorist attacks do not use the slaughtering of innumerable innocent men women and children as the modus operandi.

There is only one type of terrorism which is the main concern and slaughters the highest number of innocent men women and children.

islamic terrorism.

So we have:

Threat level: Acute.

Main concern: Jihadist terrorism (muslim terrorism)

Number of Deaths / casualities: Nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.

Seems very clear to me that the mix islam / muslims / terrorism is the major threat to Europe. (or has Europol got it wrong?)

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #109 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:21pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses? Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness. Two completely different things. Don't you think it's time you realised that? Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #110 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:40pm

Hey there forky tongue, just repeating Europol figures:

Threat level: Acute.

Main concern: Jihadist terrorism (muslim terrorism)

Number of Deaths / casualties: Nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.

Seems very clear to me that the mix islam / muslims / terrorism is the major threat to Europe. (or has Europol got it wrong?)

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #111 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:21pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses? Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness. Two completely different things. Don't you think it's time you realised that? Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #112 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 6:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 2:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 10:48am:

Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.

I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren? I have made no such claims. I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics. Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren. A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing... Roll Eyes

As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist threat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.

It may be the more deadly threat BUT and it is a big BUT, Soren, it happens less often - which is the point that Greg has made, using the EuroPol statistics. You appear unwilling to accept or recognise that Greg is arguing frequency, not deadliness. You really are being quite foolish, as are all the Islamophobes. Such silly billies. Roll Eyes

Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #113 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 6:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 2:09pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 10:48am:

Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.

I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren? I have made no such claims. I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics. Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren. A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing... Roll Eyes

As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist treat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.

You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

They are near-harmless compared to the jihadi death toll, Turdy Mcwankpuffin.

There we have it, folks: a frank admission from the apologist.

I suspect he'll keep using misleading statistics, though.

You have rubbed your pizzle raw by now, Turd, apply some lotion and have a lie down.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #114 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 6:52pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:21pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses? Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness. Two completely different things. Don't you think it's time you realised that? Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98973	Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics Reply #115 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 7:06pm Old boy, why did you move from a white European backwater to a thriving multicultural city in the Asia-Pacific? Wanted to convert us to white European backwaterism, did you? How did that go?
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 52868 Gender:	Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics Reply #116 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 8:47pm Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 7:06pm: Old boy, why did you move from a white European backwater to a thriving multicultural city in the Asia-Pacific? Wanted to convert us to white European backwaterism, did you? How did that go? Clap hands, here comes Wankpuffin with his Paki crap.
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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #117 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 8:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 6:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:21pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses? Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness. Two completely different things. Don't you think it's time you realised that? Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #118 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 8:49pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 8:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 6:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:21pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Still arguing at cross-purposes, Moses? Greg is arguing frequency, you are, like all the Islamophobes, arguing deadliness. Two completely different things. Don't you think it's time you realised that? Or has your Islamophobia prevented you from thinking clearly and arguing to a real outcome? Mmmm? Roll Eyes

So now its Islamophobia to point out, as Europol reports do, that Islamic jihad is far more deadly than all other terorist acts put together, unmoored cockwomble?
https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

Mass murder happens much less often than posting incitement to terrorism, wankpuffin, but it is much more serious and its consequences are actually deadly. That is why everyone, from Europol to Interpol and ASIO and all the rest regard Islamic jihad a much, much more serious concern than Paddy muttering darkly into his Guinness somewhere in the bowels of Ireland or a Kurd plotting against some Turk or a hirsute Greek drinking too much ouzo and not shaving for three days.

To grimace and gesticulate about numbers without paying attention to consequences of actions is the usual wanky idiocy that you and your alter ego, Turdy McNobsocket perpetrate on the innocent public here at Ozpolitic every day. THAT IS your terrorism, militant faarkwittery.

You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #119 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 8:50pm

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 8:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 7:06pm:

Old boy, why did you move from a white European backwater to a thriving multicultural city in the Asia-Pacific?

Wanted to convert us to white European backwaterism, did you?

How did that go?

Clap hands, here comes Wankpuffin with his Paki crap.

No no, I'd really like to know.

Did you confuse us with a Lutheran mission in the South Pacific?

New Guinea, perhaps?

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