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Re: Penny Wong is wrong, and bigoted.
Reply #15 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:42pm
 
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Why does Penny defend Muslims? If she lived in moderate Malaysia she'd be whipped.


Outcry in Malaysia over two women sentenced to caning for lesbian sex



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-lgbt/outcry-in-malaysia-over-two-wom...


And herein lies the stupidity of the apologists and trolls.

Many of the trolls and apologists in this forum profess to be gay, homosexual or weird in all manner of ways.
It shows in their ridiculous one line stupidity.

Now
If they manage to apologise enough that the weird and sociopathic CULT OF DEATH gets a hold
They will find themselves targeted for being gay, lesbian or just plain weird.

Is it that they want to be murdered?
Is it that they want to be beaten or whipped?
Is it that they are too stupid to see what they are defending?

Or are they simply trolls looking for some argument?

The DEATH CULT has no problem with torture, murder, rape, paedophilia or genocide
They do it every single day.

And if there isn't someone else to target, they simply kill each other.

What a sad, twisted. And sick CULT it is
And what sad, twisted and sick apologists are
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Reply #16 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:46pm
 
Valkie wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Why does Penny defend Muslims? If she lived in moderate Malaysia she'd be whipped.


Outcry in Malaysia over two women sentenced to caning for lesbian sex



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-lgbt/outcry-in-malaysia-over-two-wom...


And herein lies the stupidity of the apologists and trolls.

Many of the trolls and apologists in this forum profess to be gay, homosexual or weird in all manner of ways.
It shows in their ridiculous one line stupidity.

Now
If they manage to apologise enough that the weird and sociopathic CULT OF DEATH gets a hold
They will find themselves targeted for being gay, lesbian or just plain weird.

Is it that they want to be murdered?
Is it that they want to be beaten or whipped?
Is it that they are too stupid to see what they are defending?

Or are they simply trolls looking for some argument?

The DEATH CULT has no problem with torture, murder, rape, paedophilia or genocide
They do it every single day.

And if there isn't someone else to target, they simply kill each other.

What a sad, twisted. And sick CULT it is
And what sad, twisted and sick apologists are


And odds are we all have a gay or lesbian friend, uncle,  aunt, niece or nephew grandson or daughter we care about.





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Re: Penny Wong is wrong, and bigoted.
Reply #17 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:55pm
 
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Why does Penny defend Muslims? If she lived in moderate Malaysia she'd be whipped.


Outcry in Malaysia over two women sentenced to caning for lesbian sex



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-lgbt/outcry-in-malaysia-over-two-wom...

She doesn't live in Malaysia so your point is irrelevant.
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Reply #18 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:56pm
 
Valkie wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Why does Penny defend Muslims? If she lived in moderate Malaysia she'd be whipped.


Outcry in Malaysia over two women sentenced to caning for lesbian sex



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-lgbt/outcry-in-malaysia-over-two-wom...


And herein lies the stupidity of the apologists and trolls.

Many of the trolls and apologists in this forum profess to be gay, homosexual or weird in all manner of ways.
It shows in their ridiculous one line stupidity.

Now
If they manage to apologise enough that the weird and sociopathic CULT OF DEATH gets a hold
They will find themselves targeted for being gay, lesbian or just plain weird.

Is it that they want to be murdered?
Is it that they want to be beaten or whipped?
Is it that they are too stupid to see what they are defending?

Or are they simply trolls looking for some argument?

The DEATH CULT has no problem with torture, murder, rape, paedophilia or genocide
They do it every single day.

And if there isn't someone else to target, they simply kill each other.

What a sad, twisted. And sick CULT it is
And what sad, twisted and sick apologists are


Oh dear, the holier than thou hypocrites have a lot to say, yet they said nothing about homosexual behaviour being a crime until recently in Australia, and for which people were punished.

What are you whinging about?  The crime or the sentence?

From what I have seen, six 'lashes' (given the way they do it) with a rattan rod is like being whacked with a wet lettuce.
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Reply #19 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:57pm
 
Gordon, the old goat from hell, Valkie, is bleating pitifully and needs Gordon's animal husbandry skills.

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Reply #20 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 4:06pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:56pm:
Valkie wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Why does Penny defend Muslims? If she lived in moderate Malaysia she'd be whipped.


Outcry in Malaysia over two women sentenced to caning for lesbian sex



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-lgbt/outcry-in-malaysia-over-two-wom...


And herein lies the stupidity of the apologists and trolls.

Many of the trolls and apologists in this forum profess to be gay, homosexual or weird in all manner of ways.
It shows in their ridiculous one line stupidity.

Now
If they manage to apologise enough that the weird and sociopathic CULT OF DEATH gets a hold
They will find themselves targeted for being gay, lesbian or just plain weird.

Is it that they want to be murdered?
Is it that they want to be beaten or whipped?
Is it that they are too stupid to see what they are defending?

Or are they simply trolls looking for some argument?

The DEATH CULT has no problem with torture, murder, rape, paedophilia or genocide
They do it every single day.

And if there isn't someone else to target, they simply kill each other.

What a sad, twisted. And sick CULT it is
And what sad, twisted and sick apologists are


Oh dear, the holier than thou hypocrites have a lot to say, yet they said nothing about homosexual behaviour being a crime until recently in Australia, and for which people were punished.

What are you whinging about?  The crime or the sentence?

From what I have seen, six 'lashes' (given the way they do it) with a rattan rod is like being whacked with a wet lettuce.


Do you think it's worse than being pinned up against a tree?
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Reply #21 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 4:06pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:13pm:
All muslims are lazy
All muslims are liars
All muslims are wannabe psychopaths
All muslims are retarded due to inbreeding

BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH SAYING THAT BECAUSE ISLAM IS NOT A RACE! SO THERE!!

Soooo  who says and believes that eh Gandalf.
You cant call it racism if it isn't and be considered credible. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 4:08pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:48pm:
Let the people decide on a range of questions about immigration


Bu tit isn't about race ? It is access by race which is controlled by immigration and the primary contention here is that bigotry against Islam isn't a matter of racism.

Just a coincidence that the same people who say it isn't about race also say that the solution is to block access to certain races ? Go Figure ???

In Fact this is the Trump solution to Islam - block a selected group of races from entering.

If it isn't about race then how can Migration be relevant ?



Because a non discrimination mass immigration policy causes more problems than it solves in Australia. To make it worse, it's a bipartisan policy, no correspondence will be entered into

All the conflict, real and political, may not have occurred if more discussion and a more democratic position had been taken in the first place back in the 1970s, instead, the Libs and Labs alone just shook hands on it ... who do they think they are? when they ignore the say of millions of other Australians, including the Aboriginal population

Perceived bigotry and racism are only in the minds of those who have political advantage over the rest of the population. Political advantage that mostly consists of clichés and threats ... that's a great way to conduct democracy? let me tell you, it's not

The bipartisan policies between the Libs and Labs will be the downfall of those parties, simply because they have become dictatorial. They are not open minded, their minds are closed, like all other dictators

On Islam, Gandalf could at least have the decency of a long time poster and status of moderator, to give his opinion on this issue I first asked about nearly a year ago ...


Our educational philosophy is mostly based upon the following inherited beliefs derived from the Quran and Sunnah, which is also followed by prominent people in human history.
•      Read! In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists) (Al- Quran)


Core of Islamic Law or Shariah
The core of Islamic Law is preservation of:
1)    Religion
2)    Life
3)    Family
4)    Mind
5)    Wealth
6)   
Some contemporary scholars suggest either justice or liberty to be the sixth category.



Which do you think the contemporary scholars should choose Gandalf, Sharia or liberty? Which would you like more than the other? remembering that you can't have both if the scholars decide on one, Islam won't allow it unless reformation is the order of the day

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Reply #23 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 4:10pm
 
I used to like Penny a lot, I'd even have welcomed her to lead the ALP.  But these days probably since Bill took over she's simply lost the plot.  SSM...  lost the plot.  Fraser Anning...  lost the plot.

Bring back the good old, intelligent, logical, calm and wellspoken Penny.
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Reply #24 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 4:12pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
I used to like Penny a lot, I'd even have welcomed her to lead the ALP.  But these days probably since Bill took over she's simply lost the plot.  SSM...  lost the plot.  Fraser Anning...  lost the plot.

Bring back the good old, intelligent, logical, calm and wellspoken Penny. 


I also don't mind Penny on a lot of matters, but I reckon when it comes to Islam she's either lying or suffers from moral confusion.



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Reply #25 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 4:45pm
 
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 4:12pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
I used to like Penny a lot, I'd even have welcomed her to lead the ALP.  But these days probably since Bill took over she's simply lost the plot.  SSM...  lost the plot.  Fraser Anning...  lost the plot.

Bring back the good old, intelligent, logical, calm and wellspoken Penny. 


I also don't mind Penny on a lot of matters, but I reckon when it comes to Islam she's either lying or suffers from moral confusion.


May I propose that Penny Wong is right and Gordon is wrong-headed?

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Reply #26 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 4:59pm
 
This is the conclusion of Senator Anning's maiden speech:

"Now, on the brink of irreversible change, it is time for us to decide whether we as a people will rise up against this, hold fast to the crimson threads of kinship that define and unite us and strive once more for the light on the hill or concede the field to enemies of Western civilization and see all that we were and all that we might yet have become fall away to ruin."

Now, if you just chnage the word Western Civilization to say.... Kim Jong Un, it would make a rather nice end to a North Korea propaganda ad. 

Just remember this.  A good politician with good policies and ideas will never resort to populist lies. 

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Reply #27 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 5:09pm
 
Penny Wong is of Asian appearance and a member of the obsolete Labor party so her ravings are predictable, she's said it all before, like a broken record she is. Both Libs and Labs are broken records, same things over and over again

What we need for the future is democratic people with fresh ideas devoid of ancient Lib Lab bipartisan policies

Fresh ideas that everyone can consensually agree on, with some give and take, even if that means some ideas will be a little irksome, but not blatantly dictatorial, we don't need that for the future

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Reply #28 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 5:10pm
 
In response to rebukes in this thread by...

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You have all rebuked me.
But not one of you seems willing to lay at the door of ISLAM, any guilt at all, for all of the rapes, and violence and murders [visited upon non-moslems],
which the doctrines of ISLAM make lawful and encourage.

Violence visited upon non-moslems,       simply because those victims were non-moslems,      and because the moslems found an 'opportune' moment,
to rape or to slaughter them.



gandalf in rebuke, stated....
Quote:

All muslims are wannabe psychopaths




YES....
Every moslem in Australia is a dangerous potential/latent psychopath.

Why so ?

Because by definition,       every person who self-declares/self-identifies, as a moslem,
is a follower of ISLAM.

And [reason dictates] that every moslem is a supporter of everything which,
1/ ISLAM and,      which 2/ ISLAMIC law endorses, promotes, and encourages.


e.g.
Mainstream ISLAMIC law       makes it lawful, and a virtuous religious act, for a follower of ISLAM to kill an enemy of Allah [i.e. a person who is disbeliever].

Koran 9.29,  Koran 9.123,  Koran 9.111


Q.
But what about all of the innocent moslems ?

Reason dictates,       that a person, would never assert and insist,
that he is a follower of ISLAM, unless he supported what ISLAM openly teaches and openly promotes.



The prophet of ISLAM,      Mohammed himself,      said after her death that slitting the throat of a critic of ISLAM is....

"as meaningless as two goats butting heads"
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Google it


SUPPORTING ARGUMENT WITH EVIDENCES......

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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1533155075/3#3



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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?






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ARGUMENT;
There is an identifiable group of people, who do, facilitate, enable, encourage and commit acts of terror,
as an endorsed cultural modality.



They are called moslems.

They are the followers, of ISLAM.



WAKE UP PEOPLE !

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Reply #29 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 5:28pm
 
Yadda's mind is poisoned by hate.
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