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Aug 15th, 2018 at 10:31am
 

Penny Wong is wrong, and bigoted.


I just watched a TV news 'grab' of Penny Wong in parliament, condemning Fraser Anning.

Penny Wong is wrong, in how she is portraying that Fraser Anning's opinions about ISLAM, must be about 'racism'.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-15/live-parliament-condemns-fraser-anning-spe...

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bigot = = a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others.


n.b.
Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."




Penny Wong has been stating that opposition to ISLAM, in Australia, must be about 'racism'.

It is not about 'racism'.




Penny Wong is wrong.

Rejection of the followers of ISLAM, by many Australians, has nothing to do with the issue of 'racism'.

ISLAM, and those who are the followers of ISLAM,      ARE NOT A RACE OF PEOPLE.




Penny Wong, i'm here to tell you that ISLAM is an ideology.

NEITHER ISLAM, NOR ITS FOLLOWERS, CAN BE LEGITIMATELY 'IDENTIFIED' AS 'A RACE OF PEOPLE'.

Rather, ISLAM is a vicious and criminal ideology [by our laws], which fosters and encourages CRIMINAL INTENT [by our laws] against all non-moslems.



Penny Wong, for you to publicly argue, and present the proposition,
that any opposition to the presence of ISLAM [in Australia] is an issue of 'racism', simply shows how ignorant and bigoted you yourself are.
[i.e. YOUR POSITION, in refusing to examine the arguments and the evidences, which clearly prove that ISLAM and the determined intentions of ISLAM's followers,
are incompatible with any open, pluralistic society.]


THIS ISSUE, IS ABOUT, IT SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT.....
It is about Australians, it is about Australian society, and OUR [unquestioning] tolerance and OUR [unquestioning] acceptance,
of a group of people, who     demonstrate     through their own embrace, of their 'faith', ISLAM, that they fully accept and promote [among themselves] their right [in their ISLAMIC law] to oppress, to intimidate and to murder all others [all 'outsiders', all 'disbelievers'] who are not of their 'faith'.


THE SOLUTION, WHICH WE OUGHT TO BE PREPARED TO GRASP HOLD OF.....
We Australians should have the courage and good sense,     to condemn them, moslems, the followers of ISLAM.

We Australians should have the courage and good sense,     to declare that we, Australians, do not want moslems, the followers of ISLAM, to be allowed to live among us.

And we Australians should condemn all those persons who seek to promote and to defend [through a misplaced sense of  [unquestioning] 'tolerance' and [unquestioning] 'acceptance' of] those who are the followers of ISLAM.




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Reply #1 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:13pm
 
All muslims are lazy
All muslims are liars
All muslims are wannabe psychopaths
All muslims are retarded due to inbreeding

BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH SAYING THAT BECAUSE ISLAM IS NOT A RACE! SO THERE!!
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Reply #2 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:17pm
 
Why give Annings racist bigotry the gravity of even discussing it?
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Reply #3 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:22pm
 
He had a good point.
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Reply #4 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:34pm
 
It seems the bastion of free speech is full of sooks

I admire any politician who expresses the view that a divisive issue should be decided by "popular vote" (as Anning did) or referendum

Let the people decide on a range of questions about immigration and not let the current bipartisan policy remain locked up in the Labor/Liberal political vault

Denying democracy on the immigration issue is the same as denying democracy on any other issue. We've had plenty to say on other divisive issues, why not a say on immigration? Only anti-free speech sooks would disallow that say

There are sub-issues within the immigration issue that have nothing to to with race, and need to be addressed and addressed thoroughly, for example: rural and regional towns and cities are totally not ready for mass immigration or even moderate immigration influxes. But I will say that every rural city has a Centerlink office, however, Centerlink is a negative influence on an immigrant population that is supposed to be "contributing" to society. The bush needs jobs before it can support any more people, and not all those jobs can be in takeaway food shops

There is also the sudden shock of multiculturalism with all it's implications suddenly descending on the predominately traditional Anglo population in the bush, and while many a resident supports multiculturalism, they have yet to witness what it's all about, especially if it begins to overtake them and they start to step back from it. Of course then, the Lib Lab dictators will pipe up and say "you've just got to cop it on the chin, it's our bipartisan policy and nothing you say will change it"

A modicum of democracy is needed

The National Party could care less so we need people who look at it all objectively. Drop all the clichés about immigration and get on with the job of addressing the real issues

My "final solution" for the bush would be addressing the jobs issue to avoid Centerlink layabouts and cheats. Minimize multiculturalism so it doesn't become divisive, teach new immigrants all aspects of living in the bush (there are often hardships to overcome much different to city life). To have respect for farmers who supply the nations food. Respect for multi generational residents and families who've known nothing but the bush and it's natural adversaries that they must contend with throughout their lives. This of course includes the Aboriginal people, I would ensure that new immigrants to rural locations were taught that Aboriginals are trying to live in a modern society, and any racism towards them would in no way be tolerated, especially any racism coming from immigrants of colour. Conversely, there must be no incitement of any kind of violence, emotional or physical, by foreign indigenous people joined by the Aboriginal people after possibly saying "We are black brothers". If you think that can't happen .... well, just hope it doesn't

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Reply #5 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:42pm
 
When you start lumping people into the same cart because they share one characteristic, lets say all Christians are pedophiles for instance, your pathetic argument is shown for the bullshit it is....Claiming it is not racism because Islam is not a race does not excuse bigotry and hatred....Every person should be treated as an individual and only be condemned for the crimes they commit....Bigots are so stupid???

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Reply #6 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:44pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
He had a good point.


What was that???

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Reply #7 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:46pm
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 10:31am:

Penny Wong is wrong, and bigoted.


I just watched a TV news 'grab' of Penny Wong in parliament, condemning Fraser Anning.

Penny Wong is wrong, in how she is portraying that Fraser Anning's opinions about ISLAM, must be about 'racism'.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-15/live-parliament-condemns-fraser-anning-spe...

Dictionary;

bigot = = a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others.


n.b.
Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."




Penny Wong has been stating that opposition to ISLAM, in Australia, must be about 'racism'.

It is not about 'racism'.




Penny Wong is wrong.

Rejection of the followers of ISLAM, by many Australians, has nothing to do with the issue of 'racism'.

ISLAM, and those who are the followers of ISLAM,      ARE NOT A RACE OF PEOPLE.




Penny Wong, i'm here to tell you that ISLAM is an ideology.

NEITHER ISLAM, NOR ITS FOLLOWERS, CAN BE LEGITIMATELY 'IDENTIFIED' AS 'A RACE OF PEOPLE'.

Rather, ISLAM is a vicious and criminal ideology [by our laws], which fosters and encourages CRIMINAL INTENT [by our laws] against all non-moslems.



Penny Wong, for you to publicly argue, and present the proposition,
that any opposition to the presence of ISLAM [in Australia] is an issue of 'racism', simply shows how ignorant and bigoted you yourself are.
[i.e. YOUR POSITION, in refusing to examine the arguments and the evidences, which clearly prove that ISLAM and the determined intentions of ISLAM's followers,
are incompatible with any open, pluralistic society.]


THIS ISSUE, IS ABOUT, IT SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT.....
It is about Australians, it is about Australian society, and OUR [unquestioning] tolerance and OUR [unquestioning] acceptance,
of a group of people, who     demonstrate     through their own embrace, of their 'faith', ISLAM, that they fully accept and promote [among themselves] their right [in their ISLAMIC law] to oppress, to intimidate and to murder all others [all 'outsiders', all 'disbelievers'] who are not of their 'faith'.


THE SOLUTION, WHICH WE OUGHT TO BE PREPARED TO GRASP HOLD OF.....
We Australians should have the courage and good sense,     to condemn them, moslems, the followers of ISLAM.

We Australians should have the courage and good sense,     to declare that we, Australians, do not want moslems, the followers of ISLAM, to be allowed to live among us.

And we Australians should condemn all those persons who seek to promote and to defend [through a misplaced sense of  [unquestioning] 'tolerance' and [unquestioning] 'acceptance' of] those who are the followers of ISLAM.






So Penny Wong is a bigot for condemning one individual about divisive comments he made but Anning is not because he made a generalization about a whole group of people he does not know or understand....F@#k off you idiot???

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Reply #8 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:48pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:34pm:
It seems the bastion of free speech is full of sooks

I admire any politician who expresses the view that a divisive issue should be decided by "popular vote" (as Anning did) or referendum

Let the people decide on a range of questions about immigration and not let the current bipartisan policy remain locked up in the Labor/Liberal political vault

Denying democracy on the immigration issue is the same as denying democracy on any other issue. We've had plenty to say on other divisive issues, why not a say on immigration? Only anti-free speech sooks would disallow that say

There are sub-issues within the immigration issue that have nothing to to with race, and need to be addressed and addressed thoroughly, for example: rural and regional towns and cities are totally not ready for mass immigration or even moderate immigration influxes. But I will say that every rural city has a Centerlink office, however, Centerlink is a negative influence on an immigrant population that is supposed to be "contributing" to society. The bush needs jobs before it can support any more people, and not all those jobs can be in takeaway food shops

There is also the sudden shock of multiculturalism with all it's implications suddenly descending on the predominately traditional Anglo population in the bush, and while many a resident supports multiculturalism, they have yet to witness what it's all about, especially if it begins to overtake them and they start to step back from it. Of course then, the Lib Lab dictators will pipe up and say "you've just got to cop it on the chin, it's our bipartisan policy and nothing you say will change it"

A modicum of democracy is needed

The National Party could care less so we need people who look at it all objectively. Drop all the clichés about immigration and get on with the job of addressing the real issues

My "final solution" for the bush would be addressing the jobs issue to avoid Centerlink layabouts and cheats. Minimize multiculturalism so it doesn't become divisive, teach new immigrants all aspects of living in the bush (there are often hardships to overcome much different to city life). To have respect for farmers who supply the nations food. Respect for multi generational residents and families who've known nothing but the bush and it's natural adversaries that they must contend with throughout their lives. This of course includes the Aboriginal people, I would ensure that new immigrants to rural locations were taught that Aboriginals are trying to live in a modern society, and any racism towards them would in no way be tolerated, especially any racism coming from immigrants of colour. Conversely, there must be no incitement of any kind of violence, emotional or physical, by foreign indigenous people joined by the Aboriginal people after possibly saying "We are black brothers". If you think that can't happen .... well, just hope it doesn't



Let the people decide on a range of questions about immigration


Bu tit isn't about race ? It is access by race which is controlled by immigration and the primary contention here is that bigotry against Islam isn't a matter of racism.

Just a coincidence that the same people who say it isn't about race also say that the solution is to block access to certain races ? Go Figure ???

In Fact this is the Trump solution to Islam - block a selected group of races from entering.

If it isn't about race then how can Migration be relevant ?
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Reply #9 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:53pm
 
Islam isnt a race, its a culture and a religion but not a race.
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Reply #10 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:56pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 2:42pm:
When you start lumping people into the same cart because they share one characteristic, lets say all Christians are pedophiles for instance, your pathetic argument is shown for the bullshit it is....Claiming it is not racism because Islam is not a race does not excuse bigotry and hatred....Every person should be treated as an individual and only be condemned for the crimes they commit....Bigots are so stupid???

Smiley Smiley Smiley
different cultures have different characteristics and values.  As an example, we know that the Islamic culture treats females as inferior, why would we import people from a culture which has values directly antagonistic to ours? Doesnt make sense.
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Being wrong and bigoted appears to be genetic for Yadda.

Yadda is a hate propagator.
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Reply #12 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:25pm
 
Why does Penny defend Muslims? If she lived in moderate Malaysia she'd be whipped.


Outcry in Malaysia over two women sentenced to caning for lesbian sex



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Reply #13 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:30pm
 
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Why does Penny defend Muslims? If she lived in moderate Malaysia she'd be whipped.


Outcry in Malaysia over two women sentenced to caning for lesbian sex


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-lgbt/outcry-in-malaysia-over-two-wom...


Gordon you are Wong-headed.

Stick to your lodging expertise and husbandry of travel-worn old goats.
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Reply #14 - Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:39pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:30pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Why does Penny defend Muslims? If she lived in moderate Malaysia she'd be whipped.


Outcry in Malaysia over two women sentenced to caning for lesbian sex


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-lgbt/outcry-in-malaysia-over-two-wom...


Gordon you are Wong-headed.

Stick to your lodging expertise and husbandry of travel-worn old goats.


Do you have anything to actually say about muslims caning lesbians in Malaysia or are you just going to post crap as usual?
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