let's see...  where to begin today.

The ABC, Monk, Kevin, Tony J, Tim and Malcolm believe in AGW.  They all blame AGW for the DROUGHT we are now in.

But...

Warmist ideologues always jump on any warm period of weather or natural climate disaster...

This drought is just like many past droughts.  We live in a land of drought and flooding rains people...  FACT.  It's all rather cyclical...  FACT.

The science of Meterology says NSW rainfall over the last century shows that the first half of the last century had mor dryspells than the latter half.  There is no evidence as yet showing that global warming is producing more droughts.  Check the records.

The BOM's records show that these days we are getting more rain in Australia not less.  Poor Tim.

The BOM last year agreed that "nationally averaged rainfall was 8% above average".

The gov-funded National Climate Change  Adaption Research facility  admitted that "in Eastern Australia, that up to 2030, natural variability is expected to continue dominating any rainfall trends".

How about ours harvests?
"Our wheat harvests over the past decade have consistently been well above the average for the past 60 years".
Harvests are bigger not smaller.

World grain crops have also set records over the last decade.  Even the UN IPCC concedes... "there is not enough evidence to support more than low confidence in a global scale trend in drought"and we know how biased they are...

We have had worse droughts last century.

The GB Reef...

Health is returning to the reef after recent bleachings.
The Reef and Rainforest centre says a cooler Summer in Qld's North has helped in this.
Tourism Operators have reported improvements at high profile dive sites.

Roach wisely—but tellingly—avoids answering my question.

Unless you want to posit two collars, one around each pole, you have to admit it is global warming.

The sun went a little bit quiet in the 1980s so it is not the sun doing the warming.

So—what is causing the warming? H2O, CO2, CH4, N2O, O3, CFCs even SO2.

Grendel wrote on Aug 9^th, 2018 at 6:09pm:



… aside from being the most severe in recorded history, so far - and it's still got quite a while to go

nope. Just asking you—you said that land use change is the reason the globe is warming. Really—that is at least no more idiotic than Booby’s ice age nonsense. Not less idiotic either.

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 9^th, 2018 at 6:37pm:






buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 9^th, 2018 at 6:37pm:



So tell us where you got the information. It can't be that hard; can it?

{Sigh} the sun went a little bit quiet in the 1980s. Despite that the globe has warmed 0.5°C since 1990.

Not the sun!

CO2 etc.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9^th, 2018 at 6:51pm:



oh and other warming periods, apparently sans CO2? Or were they all due to orbital deficiencies?

BTW- you haven't given us the data on the headline post yet.

This thread was moved by Set -  7.21 pm 9th August 2018.

I appreciate that because environment chat keeps going to the wrong boards.