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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Palestinian Teen Protest Icon Released by Israel Reply #30 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:37pm freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:34pm: You couldn't make this poo up. Thanks for sharing Unforgiven. Thanks for commending my truthfulness.
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Reply #31 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:49pm

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:31pm:

You're not real good with the details are you Aussie?

Would you agree that it was a particularly stupid act to provide the evidence that got her own daughter imprisoned?

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 30^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:

I am betting Freediver will support the actions of this brave teenager in fighting against oppressors who have taken over her country and turned the whole of Palestine into a no-go zone for Palestinians.

Man-up Freediver and step forward.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/29/633579393/palestinian-teen-protest-icon-released-...

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Palestinian Teen Protest Icon Released From Israeli Prison
July 29, 20182:24 PM ET
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MERRIT KENNEDY

Ahed Tamimi hugs her father Bassem after she was released from an Israeli prison Sunday after serving an eight month sentence.
Nasser Shiyoukhi/AP
Seventeen-year-old Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi has been released from Israeli prison after serving an eight-month sentence for slapping Israeli soldiers during a confrontation that went viral on the Internet. The teen has become a symbol of resistance for many Palestinians; for many Israelis, she's seen as a provocateur.

Tamini was greeted by jubilant crowds in her village of Nabi Saleh, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, as she smiled and embraced family members.

"Power to the people," she said. "The people can decide their way of resistance." Tamimi called for continued resistance to Israeli occupation.

Last year, her mother posted a video on social media that showed her kicking and slapping Israeli soldiers outside her family home. It went viral and led to her arrest in December. Her trial opened in February at an Israeli military court and in March she agreed to plead guilty to charges including assault.

Military Trial Opens For 17-Year-Old Palestinian Activist
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Military Trial Opens For 17-Year-Old Palestinian Activist
"As part of her agreement, Tamimi pleaded guilty to four counts of assault, including the videotaped slapping of an Israeli soldier," according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. "In addition to the eight month jail sentence, she was to pay a fine of 5,000 shekels ($1,437)." Her mother Nariman was also released on Sunday.

Asked if she'd do it again — slap the soldiers the way she did — Tamimi said she couldn't say much for fear of re-arrest. "I hope that the occupation will be gone so I won't even think about doing these things again," she added.

Tamimi has become an icon for many Palestinians. A billboard in Nabi Saleh shows her photo with the words "Go away occupation."
Daniel Estrin
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas met with Tamimi and her family after her release. According to a statement released by the official Wafa news agency, Abbas "praised Ahed and described her as a model of the Palestinian struggle for freedom, independence and statehood."

Tamimi's protest gained international attention and many human rights groups were critical of her detention. Amnesty International called her release "welcome news" but stressed that other Palestinian minors are facing difficult circumstances in Israeli prisons.

"Ahed Tamimi's release must not obscure the familiar and continuing story of the Israeli military using discriminatory policies to lock up Palestinian children," said Saleh Higazi, the head of Amnesty's Jerusalem office. "Her unjust imprisonment is a reminder of how the Israeli occupation uses the arbitrary military courts to punish those who challenge the occupation and illegal settlements expansion policies, without any regard to age."

Israeli Cabinet minister Uri Ariel told The Associated Press that he thinks Israel should respond more strictly.

"I think Israel acts too mercifully with these types of terrorists. Israel should treat harshly those who hit its soldiers," he told the wire service. "We can't have a situation where there is no deterrence. Lack of deterrence leads to the reality we see now ... we must change that."

Ahed's father Bassem Tamimi, who is also a well-known activist, has told NPR that her altercation with soldiers happened shortly after her cousin was shot in the head with rubber bullet as he was climbing the wall of a complex that Israeli soldiers had taken control of.

He said her protest was an understandable response to growing up watching her relatives be killed and wounded.

I am well aware of the filming matter Effendi. That film was not the difference between her being charged or not getting charged. There were also ample witnesses who could ID her and provide eye witness evidence.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51891 At my desk.	Re: Palestinian Teen Protest Icon Released by Israel Reply #32 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:51pm So the article was wrong?
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Re: Palestinian Teen Protest Icon Released by Israel
Reply #34 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 2:44pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:06pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 12:41pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 30^th, 2018 at 10:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 30^th, 2018 at 9:36pm:

Just think, she would have gotten away with it if not for her idiot mother posting the evidence on the internet so all the other Muslims could rejoice in her going apeshit and attacking Jews.

I'm guessing Unforgiven would have acted the same way.

Huh? What did she get away with? She was imprisoned for girl slapping a much bigger male.

Girl slapping ? never heard of that offence. Israelis sure do have some crazy laws Ozzie, in Australia she would have been charged with "assault", but then you would already know that. People never get imprisoned for assault in Australia do they?

Often they don't.

They also get bail and don't get tortured in prison if held under arrest.

Zero evidence this girl was tortured. She also plead guilty to 4 counts of assault, not 4 counts of "girl slapping". Anything else you want to be wrong about today while you are on a roll? You may join Ozzie and sit in the corner with your dunce cap on.

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Re: Palestinian Teen Protest Icon Released by Israel
Reply #35 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 2:47pm

rhino wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 2:44pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:06pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 12:41pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 30^th, 2018 at 10:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 30^th, 2018 at 9:36pm:

Just think, she would have gotten away with it if not for her idiot mother posting the evidence on the internet so all the other Muslims could rejoice in her going apeshit and attacking Jews.

I'm guessing Unforgiven would have acted the same way.

Huh? What did she get away with? She was imprisoned for girl slapping a much bigger male.

Girl slapping ? never heard of that offence. Israelis sure do have some crazy laws Ozzie, in Australia she would have been charged with "assault", but then you would already know that. People never get imprisoned for assault in Australia do they?

Often they don't.

They also get bail and don't get tortured in prison if held under arrest.

Zero evidence this girl was tortured. She also plead guilty to 4 counts of assault, not 4 counts of "girl slapping". Anything else you want to be wrong about today while you are on a roll? You may join Ozzie and sit in the corner with your dunce cap on.

Is Rhino relinquishing it's position?

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Reply #36 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 3:08pm

An opinion from J Street USA.

No doubt Freediver and his ilk will label the author, Jeremy Ben-Ami, the President of US Jewish Organization J Street, as a self-hating jew.

https://jstreet.org/thoughts-tamimi-case-answer-isnt-arresting-16-year-old-girl-...

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... The lands and resources of the people of the village of Nabi Saleh have systematically and with the support of the government been taken from them over the past several decades and put to use by an Israeli settlement that has been – under international law – illegally established on land that Israel occupied militarily in 1967.

There is no compelling security or military justification for the way in which families, including the Tamimis, have been treated over the decades, and it should come as no surprise when young men and women like Ahed choose to resist. It doesn’t take a textbook to bring about resistance in young people; it results quite naturally – without need of instruction – from the human impulse to resist injustice against one’s community and family. ...

... We are obliged to take a long, hard look at the underlying policies that could lead a 16 year-old girl to slap fully-armed soldiers in the first place, and to risk years in jail.

The situation on the West Bank is unstable, unjust and unsustainable.

The right way to address it isn’t to arrest a 16 year-old girl, it’s to end a 50-year occupation.

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Reply #37 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 6:15pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 3:08pm:

https://jstreet.org/thoughts-tamimi-case-answer-isnt-arresting-16-year-old-girl-...

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The situation on the West Bank is unstable, unjust and unsustainable.

The right way to address it isn’t to arrest a 16 year-old girl, it’s to end a 50-year occupation.

The situation on the West Bank is unstable, unjust and unsustainable.

That is true. ....and for Gaza also.

That is why the Pal's [and every failed state in the Middle East] should allow and PERMIT the Israelis to enact their
ONE STATE SOLUTION, for the Middle East.

Israel's true plan, for the Middle East is....

PEACE and prosperity,

everywhere, and for everyone.

And this objective for the Middle East, can only be achieved through every failed state in the Middle East surrendering,
to the application of "the Jewish miracle", in their own lands.

And then they would marvel, at how Jewish reason and logic, could solve all of their own problems.

Klavan's One-State Solution_ Give the Middle East to the Jews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU

Those cunning Zionists!!!!

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22600 A cat with a view	Re: Palestinian Teen Protest Icon Released by Israel Reply #38 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 6:24pm Hey!!!!! .....come on, admit it! THIS, is what all moslems, want to get their hands on!!!!!! ---------- > Israel ¡Seeing is Believing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLgdb6r0MQ4
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Re: Palestinian Teen Protest Icon Released by Israel
Reply #39 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 7:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:51pm:

So the article was wrong?

I have no idea. Is it Effendi?

Let's dumb it down a bit:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:31pm:

You're not real good with the details are you Aussie?

Would you agree that it was a particularly stupid act to provide the evidence that got her own daughter imprisoned?

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 30^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:

I am betting Freediver will support the actions of this brave teenager in fighting against oppressors who have taken over her country and turned the whole of Palestine into a no-go zone for Palestinians.

Man-up Freediver and step forward.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/29/633579393/palestinian-teen-protest-icon-released-...

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Palestinian Teen Protest Icon Released From Israeli Prison
July 29, 20182:24 PM ET
Merrit Kennedy 2018 square
MERRIT KENNEDY

Ahed Tamimi hugs her father Bassem after she was released from an Israeli prison Sunday after serving an eight month sentence.
Nasser Shiyoukhi/AP
Seventeen-year-old Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi has been released from Israeli prison after serving an eight-month sentence for slapping Israeli soldiers during a confrontation that went viral on the Internet. The teen has become a symbol of resistance for many Palestinians; for many Israelis, she's seen as a provocateur.

Tamini was greeted by jubilant crowds in her village of Nabi Saleh, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, as she smiled and embraced family members.

"Power to the people," she said. "The people can decide their way of resistance." Tamimi called for continued resistance to Israeli occupation.

Last year, her mother posted a video on social media that showed her kicking and slapping Israeli soldiers outside her family home. It went viral and led to her arrest in December. Her trial opened in February at an Israeli military court and in March she agreed to plead guilty to charges including assault.

Military Trial Opens For 17-Year-Old Palestinian Activist
THE TWO-WAY
Military Trial Opens For 17-Year-Old Palestinian Activist
"As part of her agreement, Tamimi pleaded guilty to four counts of assault, including the videotaped slapping of an Israeli soldier," according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. "In addition to the eight month jail sentence, she was to pay a fine of 5,000 shekels ($1,437)." Her mother Nariman was also released on Sunday.

Asked if she'd do it again — slap the soldiers the way she did — Tamimi said she couldn't say much for fear of re-arrest. "I hope that the occupation will be gone so I won't even think about doing these things again," she added.

Tamimi has become an icon for many Palestinians. A billboard in Nabi Saleh shows her photo with the words "Go away occupation."
Daniel Estrin
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas met with Tamimi and her family after her release. According to a statement released by the official Wafa news agency, Abbas "praised Ahed and described her as a model of the Palestinian struggle for freedom, independence and statehood."

Tamimi's protest gained international attention and many human rights groups were critical of her detention. Amnesty International called her release "welcome news" but stressed that other Palestinian minors are facing difficult circumstances in Israeli prisons.

"Ahed Tamimi's release must not obscure the familiar and continuing story of the Israeli military using discriminatory policies to lock up Palestinian children," said Saleh Higazi, the head of Amnesty's Jerusalem office. "Her unjust imprisonment is a reminder of how the Israeli occupation uses the arbitrary military courts to punish those who challenge the occupation and illegal settlements expansion policies, without any regard to age."

Israeli Cabinet minister Uri Ariel told The Associated Press that he thinks Israel should respond more strictly.

"I think Israel acts too mercifully with these types of terrorists. Israel should treat harshly those who hit its soldiers," he told the wire service. "We can't have a situation where there is no deterrence. Lack of deterrence leads to the reality we see now ... we must change that."

Ahed's father Bassem Tamimi, who is also a well-known activist, has told NPR that her altercation with soldiers happened shortly after her cousin was shot in the head with rubber bullet as he was climbing the wall of a complex that Israeli soldiers had taken control of.

He said her protest was an understandable response to growing up watching her relatives be killed and wounded.

I am well aware of the filming matter Effendi. That film was not the difference between her being charged or not getting charged. There were also ample witnesses who could ID her and provide eye witness evidence.

Is this you contradicting the article?

Are you doing so out of complete ignorance?

Are you now asking me whether the article is correct rather than simply admitting you got caught out lying yet again?

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Reply #40 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 7:50pm

Imam Tawhidi on this woman.

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Imam of Peace

Palestinian Propaganda. They say this Hamas Princess was oppressed by the Jews. She was detained hungry, and came out chubby and healthy. Then went for an ice cream straight away. Now imagine a Jewish lady being detained by Hamas: Goes in healthy, comes out raped.. if not killed.

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1023782171360673792

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the have ice cream no, I thought they were hungry, and had no food

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Reply #41 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 8:02pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 7:50pm:

Imam Tawhidi on this woman.

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Imam of Peace

Palestinian Propaganda. They say this Hamas Princess was oppressed by the Jews. She was detained hungry, and came out chubby and healthy. Then went for an ice cream straight away. Now imagine a Jewish lady being detained by Hamas: Goes in healthy, comes out raped.. if not killed.

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1023782171360673792

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the have ice cream no, I thought they were hungry, and had no food

A shekel for BaronVonRort's thoughts. Not for the propaganda, you are retransmitting.

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Reply #42 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 8:08pm

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Is this you contradicting the article?

Not at all, Effendi. How can you credibly construe it that way?

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Are you doing so out of complete ignorance?

Are you a dribbling imbecile or completely ignorant, Effendi?

I do hope you are starting to regret trying that rubbish trick on me Effendi.

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Are you now asking me whether the article is correct rather than simply admitting you got caught out lying yet again?

Only you conclude that they are the only two alternatives, Effendi. There is no lie. I have no idea if the Article is correct. My point stands. No-one needs video evidence to secure convictions. Eye witness accounts work very well.

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Re: Palestinian Teen Protest Icon Released by Israel
Reply #43 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 8:10pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 8:02pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 7:50pm:

Imam Tawhidi on this woman.

Quote:

Imam of Peace

Palestinian Propaganda. They say this Hamas Princess was oppressed by the Jews. She was detained hungry, and came out chubby and healthy. Then went for an ice cream straight away. Now imagine a Jewish lady being detained by Hamas: Goes in healthy, comes out raped.. if not killed.

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1023782171360673792

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the have ice cream no, I thought they were hungry, and had no food

A shekel for BaronVonRort's thoughts. Not for the propaganda, you are retransmitting.

The Imam of peace is a muslim Iranian refugee, he had to start a GoFundMe for security because of death threats from muslims.

Get a job and pay some taxes ya dopey bum

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Reply #44 - Jul 31^st, 2018 at 8:23pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2018 at 1:31pm:

You're not real good with the details are you Aussie?

Would you agree that it was a particularly stupid act to provide the evidence that got her own daughter imprisoned?

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 30^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:

I am betting Freediver will support the actions of this brave teenager in fighting against oppressors who have taken over her country and turned the whole of Palestine into a no-go zone for Palestinians.

Man-up Freediver and step forward.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/29/633579393/palestinian-teen-protest-icon-released-...

Quote:

Palestinian Teen Protest Icon Released From Israeli Prison
July 29, 20182:24 PM ET
Merrit Kennedy 2018 square
MERRIT KENNEDY

Ahed Tamimi hugs her father Bassem after she was released from an Israeli prison Sunday after serving an eight month sentence.
Nasser Shiyoukhi/AP
Seventeen-year-old Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi has been released from Israeli prison after serving an eight-month sentence for slapping Israeli soldiers during a confrontation that went viral on the Internet. The teen has become a symbol of resistance for many Palestinians; for many Israelis, she's seen as a provocateur.

Tamini was greeted by jubilant crowds in her village of Nabi Saleh, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, as she smiled and embraced family members.

"Power to the people," she said. "The people can decide their way of resistance." Tamimi called for continued resistance to Israeli occupation.

Last year, her mother posted a video on social media that showed her kicking and slapping Israeli soldiers outside her family home. It went viral and led to her arrest in December. Her trial opened in February at an Israeli military court and in March she agreed to plead guilty to charges including assault.

Military Trial Opens For 17-Year-Old Palestinian Activist
THE TWO-WAY
Military Trial Opens For 17-Year-Old Palestinian Activist
"As part of her agreement, Tamimi pleaded guilty to four counts of assault, including the videotaped slapping of an Israeli soldier," according to the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. "In addition to the eight month jail sentence, she was to pay a fine of 5,000 shekels ($1,437)." Her mother Nariman was also released on Sunday.

Asked if she'd do it again — slap the soldiers the way she did — Tamimi said she couldn't say much for fear of re-arrest. "I hope that the occupation will be gone so I won't even think about doing these things again," she added.

Tamimi has become an icon for many Palestinians. A billboard in Nabi Saleh shows her photo with the words "Go away occupation."
Daniel Estrin
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas met with Tamimi and her family after her release. According to a statement released by the official Wafa news agency, Abbas "praised Ahed and described her as a model of the Palestinian struggle for freedom, independence and statehood."

Tamimi's protest gained international attention and many human rights groups were critical of her detention. Amnesty International called her release "welcome news" but stressed that other Palestinian minors are facing difficult circumstances in Israeli prisons.

"Ahed Tamimi's release must not obscure the familiar and continuing story of the Israeli military using discriminatory policies to lock up Palestinian children," said Saleh Higazi, the head of Amnesty's Jerusalem office. "Her unjust imprisonment is a reminder of how the Israeli occupation uses the arbitrary military courts to punish those who challenge the occupation and illegal settlements expansion policies, without any regard to age."

Israeli Cabinet minister Uri Ariel told The Associated Press that he thinks Israel should respond more strictly.

"I think Israel acts too mercifully with these types of terrorists. Israel should treat harshly those who hit its soldiers," he told the wire service. "We can't have a situation where there is no deterrence. Lack of deterrence leads to the reality we see now ... we must change that."

Ahed's father Bassem Tamimi, who is also a well-known activist, has told NPR that her altercation with soldiers happened shortly after her cousin was shot in the head with rubber bullet as he was climbing the wall of a complex that Israeli soldiers had taken control of.

He said her protest was an understandable response to growing up watching her relatives be killed and wounded.

I am well aware of the filming matter Effendi. That film was not the difference between her being charged or not getting charged. There were also ample witnesses who could ID her and provide eye witness evidence.

Refer to the highlighted bits Aussie. Is this you contradicting the article?

Are you doing so out of complete ignorance?

Are you now asking me whether the article is correct rather than simply admitting you got caught out lying yet again?

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