prod slow system

Sad Kanga, your misconception about the danger of sitting on a lithium fire bomb in a still experimental untested Tesla "car" are understandable. The safety of all electrics will improve with the new Jaguar, Mercedes, Volkswagen entrants who have the resources to fully test their cars.

Another example of innovation between Australia and Japan – the Hydrogen Energy Supply Chain pilot will develop a new export industry and jobs in the growing hydrogen energy market expected to reach US$2.5 trillion by 2050.

The Hydrogen Energy Revolution is much more than a few cars. it is a whole new energy transformation of the world into the future.





Hydrogen offers significant exporting potential for Australia
News DATE 17 August 2018

Australia is in a strong position to take advantage of the growing hydrogen export market, according to a new report released today by the Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA).

The report, prepared for ARENA by ACIL Allen Consulting, identifies opportunities for Australia to export hydrogen to help meet the potential future global demand.

Over the next decade, Australia could seize on the opportunity to export hydrogen as significant increase in demand for green hydrogen, ARENA Chief Executive Officer Ivor Frischknecht said.

“Hydrogen has long been talked about as a potential energy source. Hydrogen produces no carbon emissions when burned – only water vapour and heat, and produces more energy per kilogram than natural gas,” he said.

Green or clean hydrogen can be produced via electrolysis from renewable electricity, or can be produced using fossil fuels with the emissions then captured and sequestered. Hydrogen could then be exported by liquefying it, or by converting it to a carrier such as ammonia.

“Australia has a golden opportunity to become a major exporter of hydrogen, as other countries look to transition to low carbon energy sources,” Mr Frischknecht said.

“If Australia can tap into our abundant wind and solar resources to produce hydrogen using renewable energy, we could export hydrogen at large scale,” he said.

With the right conditions, Australian hydrogen exports could contribute $1.7 billion per annum to the economy and provide 2,800 jobs by 2030, the report found.

Four countries – Japan, China, the Republic of Korea and Singapore – are identified in the report as prospective markets for Australian hydrogen by 2025.

“While countries like Japan and Korea look to decrease emissions and increase renewable options, they are looking to import hydrogen at large scale but there are as yet no exporters,” Mr Frischknecht said.

According to the report, Australia is in a competitive position in regards to potential exports to Asia due to its location, excellent renewable energy resources, well established energy trading relationships and experience in large scale energy infrastructure construction.

But Australia is not alone, as countries like Norway, the United States and Middle Eastern countries are also likely to scale up their capability to export hydrogen.

“The sector is still in its infancy which places Australia in a prime position to utilise its abundant renewable resources, as well as proven track record of exporting energy and strong relationships with energy importers to become a major player in exporting hydrogen to Asia and around the globe,” Mr Frischknecht said.

A hydrogen export market has also been identified to benefit regional communities as hydrogen production facilities are likely to be located close to the supply of renewable energy, particularly large scale solar farms, the report found.

Exporting renewables including hydrogen is one of ARENA’s four investment priorities.

In December, ARENA announced a $20 million funding round into research and development in exporting hydrogen.

ARENA is also one of the leading agencies involved in the Hydrogen Strategy Group.

Dr Alan Finkel AO, the Chief Scientist and Chair of the Hydrogen Strategy Group today released the Group’s briefing paper prepared for COAG Energy Council, which ARENA welcomed.

https://arena.gov.au/news/hydrogen-offers-significant-exporting-potential-for-au...

SadKangaroo wrote on Sep 25^th, 2018 at 10:42am:


juliar hopes that nobody asks to many questions about other types of cars catching fire.

See this. 10 cars you should never buy and none of them are Teslas. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1537877919/0#0

juliar wrote on Sep 25^th, 2018 at 11:10pm:


you'd know about being dumb socko LOL

Sad Kangaroo,

you mean well but you are clearly just merely scratching the surface.

I have done extensive research of the dangerous still experimental not fully tested unsafe Tesla "cars" and correctly point out that Tesla simply does not have the resources to fully test their experimental cars whereas the new entrants Mercedes, Volkswagen, Jaguar etc do and will significantly improve the safety of the rather inconvenient all electric cars.

The BIG BUGBEAR of the all electrics is the long recharge time and that they are mostly restricted to only cars as the battery size for large trucks is simply too large and too unsafe.

Now look at the actual problems that many cities have with pollution from DIESEL TRUCKS especially those moving containers from the wharves.

Hence Hydrogen looms BIG on the horizon as hydrogen works quite well in large trucks and is in fact being used in pollution plagued Los Angeles to move containers from the wharves.

Hydrogen has the HUGE advantage over the clumsy all electrics in that the refuel time is the same as for petrol or diesel and the range is much the same.

But cars and trucks are just the start for Hydrogen.

Japan and Sth Korea are already going over to hydrogen and they want to import hydrogen preferably from Australia.

Now Australia already has test plants operating to test the use of renewable wind and solar to produce hydrogen for export.

A problem with transporting hydrogen has been solved by the CSIRO where they convert hydrogen to ammonia which is quite easy to transport. At Japan and Sth Korea they extract the hydrogen from the ammonia.


And you will notice I ignore the childish emotional clap trap from the silly technically obtuse Tesla loving troll that follows me around like a lost puppy.

juliar wrote on Sep 26^th, 2018 at 8:59am:


What testing have you done on hydrogen cars socko ? Got one to test yet LOL

As for charge times why do you always look at a full charge cycles when in most cases it's just a top-up that is required and something that can be done whilst most normal people are asleep but I guess being normal kind of rules you out doesn't it socko

And you forgot to tell us that all Tesla model S owners get free charge-ups from super charging stations. Lets see if your hydrogen mates can offer that deal

The Village Idiot Troll Virus is displaying her usual inability to post anything other than slagging off at another poster whose superior education and ability she so envies and admires.

With sub 10 IQ wonder if she ever finished Primary School ?


Sad Kangaroo,

you are slowly going beyond just scratching the surface as you slowly gain some real practical understanding.

You have the usual automatic reaction to denounce genuine discussion.

Unlike the uneducated technically obtuse jealous troll type that follows me around like a lost puppy I do not just mouth off the decaying rubbish in my MT head as I do actual research into the topic as can EASILY be seen by looking at the many articles I have presented.

In any case it matters not one iota whether you can grasp the facts or not as the world will continue on without you.

I refer to actual factual articles from around the world and discuss these which annoys the Greeny types immensely as they just cannot handle the TRUTH.



Slightly bent Tesla S after quite common front ender.

juliar wrote on Sep 27^th, 2018 at 9:57am:


Mate, you're cherry-picking information to avoid genuine discussion. 

And the stupid thing is, for the main topic of this thread, I agree with you, the world may not be, but they should be rushing towards Hydrogen.

But because you have an agenda to push, you're attacking one of the few people that actually agree with you in this thread.

To achieve the topic of the thread, you're going to need to push aside your denial of climate change and your attacks on the like of NASA.

It can't be done without them.