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Reply #15 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:12pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Ohh yes pipeline so much better.



Only a fool would believe anything is foolproof. Wink
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Reply #16 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:13pm
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents
2017 (November 16) TransCanada's Keystone Pipeline leaks 210,000 gallons (5,000 barrels) of crude oil in Marshall County in northeastern South Dakota. Officials don't believe the leak affected any surface water bodies or threatened any drinking water systems.[100]
2014: On April 2, a pipeline failed, and spilled 70,000 liters of oil and processed water, northwest of Slave Lake, Alberta.[33]
2014: In November, 60,000 liters of crude oil spilled into muskeg from a failed pipeline, in Red Earth Creek in northern Alberta. Officials were delayed in reaching the scene, due to poor weather at the time.[34]
2015: On July 15, a pipeline at a Long Lake oil sands facility in northern Alberta leaked about 31,500 barrels of oil emulsion. The spill covered approximately 16,000 square meters (4 acres) but was mostly contained within the pipeline's right of way.[37]
2015: On August 14, a leak from a pipeline spilled about 100,000 liters of an oil, water, & gas emulsion on the Hay Lake First Nation, about 100 kilometers northwest of High Level, Alberta[38]
2016: On July 21, a leaking Husky Energy pipeline spilled 225,000 liters of oil into the North Saskatchewan River, prompting a massive cleanup.[39]
2017: On February 17, a total of 200,000 liters of oil condensate in Strathcona County, Alberta were released from line 2A, near Anthony Henday Drive and 92 Avenue,[40] after line was struck during 3rd party construction operations.[4

Yes yes pipelines soooooo much better....... Wink Wink Wink
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Reply #17 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:18pm
 
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/crude-oil-train-derailments-2015-3?r=US&IR=T

"The following timelines list significant crude by rail accidents in North America in 2013 and 2014, as well as relevant spills from barges, tankers and pipelines relevant to proposals for the Hudson Valley."

https://www.riverkeeper.org/campaigns/river-ecology/crude-oil-transport/crude-oi...

Hudson Valley only.
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Reply #18 - Jun 30th, 2018 at 6:55am
 
lee wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:12pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:04pm:
Ohh yes pipeline so much better.



Only a fool would believe anything is foolproof. Wink

ahh then the pipeleine and the rail line have the same chance to destroy the environment..
You where happy to discount the whole thing and just say Obama blah blah. All the time ignoring that every spill is a terrible thing. Wink Wink Wink
The damage to the world just from leaks and spills little on the harm caused by processing and using Fossil Fuels is why I think that renewable energy is the only way to stop killing our world
we r in a closed system remember, every bit of damage effects us all. Wink Wink
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Reply #19 - Jun 30th, 2018 at 12:07pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 30th, 2018 at 6:55am:
ahh then the pipeleine and the rail line have the same chance to destroy the environment..



No a static pipeline is safer than rolling stock. You like to talk vehicle accidents with Tesla etc. They are rolling stock also, just MV's not trains.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 30th, 2018 at 6:55am:
we r in a closed system remember, every bit of damage effects us all.


And where did I say any oil spill is NOT bad for the environment?

And of course we should just ignore natural oil seepage?
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Reply #20 - Jun 30th, 2018 at 2:21pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 30th, 2018 at 12:07pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 30th, 2018 at 6:55am:
ahh then the pipeleine and the rail line have the same chance to destroy the environment..



No a static pipeline is safer than rolling stock. You like to talk vehicle accidents with Tesla etc. They are rolling stock also, just MV's not trains.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 30th, 2018 at 6:55am:
we r in a closed system remember, every bit of damage effects us all.


And where did I say any oil spill is NOT bad for the environment?

And of course we should just ignore natural oil seepage?

see u couldn't help yourself u had to discount the damage by bringing in Natural oil seepage........
Instead of worrying about the transporting method, how about the fact that both methods r failing and contaminating the world  Wink Wink
u might be happy with 1 punch to the head instead of 4... Id rather have none Wink Wink
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Reply #21 - Jun 30th, 2018 at 3:03pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 30th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
see u couldn't help yourself u had to discount the damage by bringing in Natural oil seepage........



yeah. it is too large to ignore. Except for you of course.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 30th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Instead of worrying about the transporting method, how about the fact that both methods r failing and contaminating the world 


Oh well away you go. Don't use fossil fuel energy at all.

You do use fossil fuel energy don't you?


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Reply #22 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 9:07am
 
lee wrote on Jun 30th, 2018 at 3:03pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 30th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
see u couldn't help yourself u had to discount the damage by bringing in Natural oil seepage........



yeah. it is too large to ignore. Except for you of course.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 30th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Instead of worrying about the transporting method, how about the fact that both methods r failing and contaminating the world 


Oh well away you go. Don't use fossil fuel energy at all.

You do use fossil fuel energy don't you?



sa because oil leaks out naturally we shouldn't care when we make oil spills ?

Yes I do use FF's and its a real shame I have too, doesn't change the fact that I want change , the burning of FF's for energy is a waste of such a important resource and highly toxic.
Why I support a change to more clean alternative. We used to use kero heaters in our houses didn't make it right, we have just progressed, realized they where poisoning us and moved on.
Lead paint, asbestos all so many things.
The attitude that because we rely on something we shouldn't want change when something is proved to be poisoning us is just defeatist to my way of thinking. Wink Wink
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Reply #23 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 12:54pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 9:07am:
sa because oil leaks out naturally we shouldn't care when we make oil spills ?


You really know how to turn a conversation about nothing that was claimed; don't you? Wink


DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 9:07am:
We used to use kero heaters in our houses didn't make it right, we have just progressed, realized they where poisoning us and moved on.



Really. can you provide proof? Burning wood would have more particulates than kero.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 9:07am:
The attitude that because we rely on something we shouldn't want change when something is proved to be poisoning us is just defeatist to my way of thinking.



What exactly poisons us? How many parts per million or billion? What is a safe level?
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Reply #24 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:21pm
 
It is a lovely day out isnt it, warmed up a bit here Smiley
you did it again Lee
when your ready to quote what I say and not just little bits and take out of context  It will be a lot easier to answer...

u brought up natural spillage ,, wasn't me, but because u keep using one line , in your old age u forget what u posted  Cheesy Cheesy
Kero heaters never used to have exhausts like fire places...... U really think they burned clean in our houses ?

Just look at the smog (go on nit pick that like u don't know what poisonous chemical air around cities r called) and tell us how its not created by FF's
Again if your not worried go suck on a tailpipe  Wink Wink

Remember we r in a closed system brother.
Ohh and I cant wait to see how u can grab half a sentence this time and turn it around  Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #25 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:28pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:21pm:
you did it again Lee
when your ready to quote what I say and not just little bits and take out of context  It will be a lot easier to answer...



Point to where I said something out of context. Wink

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:21pm:
u brought up natural spillage ,, wasn't me, but because u keep using one line , in your old age u forget what u posted



yes. And I didn't say it was a good thing. Comprehension issues again. Wink

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Kero heaters never used to have exhausts like fire places...... U really think they burned clean in our houses ?


DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Again if your not worried go suck on a tailpipe


Oh dear. Such biting wit and nothing to do with anything. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I never said that either. I said they were cleaner than wood burning fireplaces. Not all wood burning fireplaces had/have a flue or exhaust if you like.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Just look at the smog (go on nit pick that like u don't know what poisonous chemical air around cities r called) and tell us how its not created by FF's



No smog around here. You do know about terpenes?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Remember we r in a closed system brother.



Nope. Wrong again. In a closed system there is no air flow. There is no cap on the top of the atmosphere.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Ohh and I cant wait to see how u can grab half a sentence this time and turn it around



Please show where I have grabbed " half a sentence".
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