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Reply #60 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 4:37pm
 
He said  d two sources of global CO2 emissions from fossil fuels, it can be determined how each new tonne of CO2 emissions is "accelerating" temperatures, or not.


What were his sources.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #61 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 4:38pm
 
As CO2 concentration rises and warms the globe there is more evaporation. Some of this water vapor ends up in upper atmosphere blocking IR. So, CO2 warms the globe by itself and puts more CO2 into the atmosphere and keeps it there for longer.

Poor little YouLiar, parroting crap she knows nothing about.
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Reply #62 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 5:04pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:
Nah, temperatures kept rising.



NOAA - Global temperature  1997 - 62.45ºF

NOAA - Global temperature - 2016- "hottest year evah" 58.69ºF

So in 23 years we have warmed minus 3.76ºF?  Wink
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Reply #63 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 5:09pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 4:38pm:
So, CO2 warms the globe by itself and puts more CO2 into the atmosphere and keeps it there for longer.



CO2 is self-accruing? How exactly does CO2 that? Why have we seen no papers on this?

CO2 must be truly evil. Wink
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Reply #64 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 5:42pm
 
lee,

LostSnail is a classic troll who will make up garbage and post it just to try to get attention.

The dumb coot is so pathetically ignorant of the TOPIC it is tragic. Classic Greeny type - empty headed windbag. Wonder if he/she ever finished primary school ?

How ignorant would you have to be to ignore that water vapor is the MAIN inhibitor to heat entering or leaving the earth.

The tiny concentration of harmless CO2 has negligiblle effect on heat entering or leaving the earth.

But it sure makes the plants grow.
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Reply #65 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 5:51pm
 
You don't have to be a "Greenie" or a "Tree Hugger" to see that air pollution and sea pollution is happening, or that its happening in ever increasing volumes. Six billion people clamoring for more industrial production. The pressure on the environmental balance is a fact. Environmental balance? WTF is that?
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Reply #66 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 6:25pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 5:42pm:
LostSnail is a classic troll who will make up garbage and post it just to try to get attention.


It is JM politicking again.
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Reply #67 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 6:55pm
 
IV,

pollution is very real and has been ocurring for many years and is largely caused by coal generators and car exhausts.

CO2 has very little to do with it as is is sulfur and nitrous gases and unburnt fuel that leads to the blanketing smog that happens in Chinese cities and Los Angeles.

But pollution has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Greenies' Global Warming HOAX which is a complete fabricated SCAM.


Read all about SMOG but NOT the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX.

https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/smogpollution.php

https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/causes-effects-solutions-to-smog-pollutio...

https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-smog-causes-and-effects-1204194



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A temporary "solution" chosen by China to ease vehicle exhaust gases in cities is to introduce electric cars until the far better hydrogen cars take over.
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Reply #68 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 7:16pm
 
Nope. In 1820 it was thought CO2 would lead to global warming. 1905 the basic science was worked out, during the cold war scientists on studies for the USN & USAF showed that AGW due to CO2e was real and satellite spectroscopy further confirmed that.

There is no real doubt about AGW due to our CO2 emissions. Now we have warmed the world so much Greenland and Antarctica are losing ice and glaciers are in retreat.
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Reply #69 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 7:31pm
 
More attention seeking bulldust from that ridiculous troll who is STILL hanging about trying to get attention with off topic SPAMMING.


Just in case anyone wanted to know.

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What causes most air pollution
By Viv Forbes March 17, 2014

A month ago an arsonist lit a bush-fire that spread into the Morwell open cut coal mine in the Australian state of  Victoria. Residents of the nearby town lived for weeks in choking polluted air.

This fire is a clear demonstration of what causes most air pollution – the open-air combustion of complex carbon-bearing products such as coal, oil, grass, sugar cane, cow dung, trees, wood, paper, urban rubbish, plastic bags, rubber tyres or dead bodies.


Asian smogs have a few special features – yellow dust from the massive Gobi Desert, fine ash and toxic fumes from dozens of volcanoes in Indonesia, funeral pyres along the Ganges, smoky mosquito fires and forest-clearing fires, millions of wood and dung cooking fires, hundreds of out-of-control coal-seam fires in China and India, and obsolete “back-yard” boilers and furnaces from the Mao era. In large Asian cities, pollution is multiplied by unburnt fuel and particulates spewing from old engines in millions of cars, trucks and motorbikes that clog the roads.

The fumes from open fires and dirty engines often contain soot, fine ash, unburnt hydrocarbons and oxides of sulphur and nitrogen. This is the pollution everyone can see and smell.
Notice that NONE of this real pollution is caused by invisible, life supporting, non-toxic carbon dioxide
which, along with nitrogen and water vapour, are the main exhaust gases from well-designed boilers burning clean coal in modern power stations with the latest pollution controls.

The western world has gone through its “city smog” phase of development. Places like London (“the Big Smoke”) and Pittsburgh (“Steel City”) solved their pea soups many decades ago by outlawing the burning of dirty coal in open fires and stoves, by cleaning up industrial smelters and by providing urban heat, light and energy using piped coal gas and modern magic - pollution-free electricity from distant coal-fired power stations with modern pollution controls.

“Clean coal by Wire” using clean washed coal in modern out-of-town power stations will work the same magic in Asian cities today.


https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/03/what_causes_most_air_pollution_.htm...
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Reply #70 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 7:53pm
 
No such thing as clean coal. Burning coal causes emissions of particulates, heave metals like cadmium and uranium as well as CO2. Coal mining is also very dangerous and causes black lung in coal miners.

Renewable energy and electric vehicles is the future.
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Reply #71 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 8:20pm
 
More attention seeking bulldust from that ridiculous troll who is STILL hanging about trying to get attention with off topic SPAMMING.

The utter hypocrisy of the lying Greenies and guess who else.

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Warmists should Go the Whole Hog
By Viv Forbes July 16, 2013

Global warmists claim that carbon dioxide is a dangerous air pollutant which is cooking the planet. They claim it causes ice sheets to melt, threatens polar bears, spreads malaria and asthma, and increases droughts, floods, tornadoes, heat waves and snow storms.

Thus their policies aim to stop generation of electricity from coal and gas, as well as production of cement and steel and usage of petrol and diesel.

However if the globe is really in such danger, then they should also support the removal of all man-made carbon dioxide.

Each human produces over 300 kg of CO2 per year just by breathing out. There are seven billion of us. Surely everyone should be equipped with gas absorbent masks to catch all this dangerous man-made gas?

And brewers must be forced to produce flat beer to prevent all those dangerous bubbles of carbon dioxide from reaching the atmosphere. Same goes for champagne and all those fizzy drinks.

Bakers will have to stop using yeast and baking soda to create carbon dioxide to put all those holes in bread -- nothing but unleavened dampers in future.

Gas-burning barbeques are adding to the problem -- sun dried meat should be mandatory for backyard parties. And we must extinguish all those pot-bellied stoves and all crematoriums.

Fireworks are a huge problem, producing not only carbon dioxide but also unfiltered smoke and particle pollution. There should be an end to public fireworks and no more government promotion of carbon-belching car racing.

If the future of the globe is in such peril, alarmists must go the whole hog and eliminate all of man's production of carbon dioxide.


https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/07/warmists_should_go_the_whole_hog.html#ixzz5M4OrGZjG
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Reply #72 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 8:42pm
 
Wow, just wow, you reveal new levels of stupid every day.
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Reply #73 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 8:55pm
 
AGW causes lots of problems, now is starting to affect oxygen levels of the oceans:

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https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-how-global-warming-is-causing-ocean-oxyge...

“Research shows that human-caused global warming is the principal cause of marine oxygen loss. Humans also play an additional role through the input of nutrients to the oceans in coastal regions, though the individual processes at play are not straightforward to disentangle.

Warming affects the ocean and its dissolved oxygen content in several ways. Among other things, it influences the solubility of oxygen in the water. The warmer the water, the less gas that can dissolve in it.

Until now, this process mainly affected the upper few hundred meters of the oceans, which have been in contact with the atmosphere most recently. This effect explains up to 20% of the total marine oxygen loss so far and about 50% of that in the upper 1,000 metres of the oceans.

In addition, warming alters patterns of global ocean circulation, which affects the mixing of oxygen-rich surface waters with deeper oxygen-poor water. It also changes how quickly organisms metabolise and respire, which affects consumption of marine oxygen.

Finally, there are indirect impacts of warming on upper-ocean nutrient supply and subsequent production and downward export of organic matter available for respiration throughout the ocean.”


The US Pacific coast salmon fishery was hit by a huge blob of deoxygenated water and no fish were harvested.
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Reply #74 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 9:43pm
 
Record heatwave across most of the world:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/13/heatwave-sees-record-high-te...

There was no pause in AGW—that was an artifact of one temperature set that excluded the Arctic where most warming took place.
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