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Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ??
Reply #15 - May 21^st, 2018 at 6:49pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 6:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 6:22pm:

I think if we continue with the big population ideas of
all the politicians - where we'll have 50 million people by 2050
then eventually we'll need extra water - droughts or not.

Also - Australia is a land of droughts and flooding rains.
We will have a long drought sooner or later.
The desal plants will get used one day.
It's just a pity that they cost so much even when left sitting idle.

What annoys me is that a North South pipe line was never built
in all our history.
Trillions of litres of water falls on the Northern territory every rainy season and
simply washes out to sea.
If we only we could harvest that water & send it south via a gigantic
pipeline pumped by solar powered pumps then we'd have more than enough water
for all the cities & even the farmers.
We'd have more water than we'd know what to do with.

The politicians like immigrants to come here and to be used as bank fodder so they can feed their fake services economy with borrowed money. It saves the government having to borrow the money. Instead just tax idiot migrants
who borrow money !!

Yes Nail,
the overpopulation of Australia has to be considered in a proper debate -
the one the Dick Smith tried to have.

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Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ??
Reply #16 - May 21^st, 2018 at 6:50pm

Bobby. wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 6:49pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 6:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 6:22pm:

I think if we continue with the big population ideas of
all the politicians - where we'll have 50 million people by 2050
then eventually we'll need extra water - droughts or not.

Also - Australia is a land of droughts and flooding rains.
We will have a long drought sooner or later.
The desal plants will get used one day.
It's just a pity that they cost so much even when left sitting idle.

What annoys me is that a North South pipe line was never built
in all our history.
Trillions of litres of water falls on the Northern territory every rainy season and
simply washes out to sea.
If we only we could harvest that water & send it south via a gigantic
pipeline pumped by solar powered pumps then we'd have more than enough water
for all the cities & even the farmers.
We'd have more water than we'd know what to do with.

The politicians like immigrants to come here and to be used as bank fodder so they can feed their fake services economy with borrowed money. It saves the government having to borrow the money. Instead just tax idiot migrants
who borrow money !!

Yes Nail,
the overpopulation of Australia has to be considered in a proper debate -
the one the Dick Smith tried to have.

the pollies don't want the debate because they are using mass immigration to fuel their fake services credit card economy.

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Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ??
Reply #17 - May 21^st, 2018 at 7:29pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 3:30pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 20^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

at this cost..

we could be building a Clean Coal Power plant every single year..

and a new hospital... ffs.. Angry

I blame you stupid ***** that keep voting Labor.. Angry

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DESAL PLANT LEAKS $649M A YEAR

THE cost to maintain and & operate Victoria’s desalination plant will rise to as much as
$649 million
next year and the annual cost
to keep the plant running is forecast to increase by $30 million
over this year

im so angry I could spit... Angry

These reverse osmosis plants all seam to be white elephants, Gold Coast has one too I think, desperate politicians do silly things sometimes, that money could of been spent fixing river systems that r so damaged or even dams. Everyone in Melbourne could have a rain water tank.... so many options.

we could have built five brand new "Clean Coal" power plants for the original cost of this ****ing thing... Angry

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122339 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ?? Reply #18 - May 21^st, 2018 at 7:38pm But Mechanic, why didn't we build a North/South pipeline instead?
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Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ??
Reply #19 - May 21^st, 2018 at 7:51pm

BigOl64 wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:36pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:31pm:

Classic Aussie thinking on infrastructure in this thread.

Build something that future-proofs the nation, get bagged out because at the moment its not needed.

Don't build something that future-proofs the nation, get bagged out when its needed.

They will 'fall into the swamp' long before they will ever be needed. Kiss that money good bye and hope we didn't need it for something like hospitals, education and health. ohh wait we do.

Guess that means no funding for Border Force or defence.

You can always be trusted for a moronic non-sequitur, hey champ?

he is right you know ? Nicely points out the flaw in the argument being used against desal.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62326 Here Gender:	Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ?? Reply #20 - May 21^st, 2018 at 7:53pm One of my favourite wastes was the 3rd runway. we had a decade of propaganda telling us how much we needed a third runway without ever being told that the day number 3 opened number 2 would be closed.
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Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ??
Reply #21 - May 21^st, 2018 at 8:36pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 7:29pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 3:30pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 20^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

at this cost..

we could be building a Clean Coal Power plant every single year..

and a new hospital... ffs.. Angry

I blame you stupid ***** that keep voting Labor.. Angry

Quote:

DESAL PLANT LEAKS $649M A YEAR

THE cost to maintain and & operate Victoria’s desalination plant will rise to as much as
$649 million
next year and the annual cost
to keep the plant running is forecast to increase by $30 million
over this year

im so angry I could spit... Angry

These reverse osmosis plants all seam to be white elephants, Gold Coast has one too I think, desperate politicians do silly things sometimes, that money could of been spent fixing river systems that r so damaged or even dams. Everyone in Melbourne could have a rain water tank.... so many options.

we could have built five brand new "Clean Coal" power plants for the original cost of this ****ing thing... Angry

Lol can’t drink electricity Tongue

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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ?? Reply #22 - May 22^nd, 2018 at 6:35am Bobby. wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 7:38pm: But Mechanic, why didn't we build a North/South pipeline instead? lol.. you are just trying to upset me now bobby... another Labor dud rusting away without one drop of water ever been run down it..
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Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ??
Reply #23 - May 22^nd, 2018 at 7:55am

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 8:36pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 7:29pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 3:30pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 20^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

at this cost..

we could be building a Clean Coal Power plant every single year..

and a new hospital... ffs.. Angry

I blame you stupid ***** that keep voting Labor.. Angry

Quote:

DESAL PLANT LEAKS $649M A YEAR

THE cost to maintain and & operate Victoria’s desalination plant will rise to as much as
$649 million
next year and the annual cost
to keep the plant running is forecast to increase by $30 million
over this year

im so angry I could spit... Angry

These reverse osmosis plants all seam to be white elephants, Gold Coast has one too I think, desperate politicians do silly things sometimes, that money could of been spent fixing river systems that r so damaged or even dams. Everyone in Melbourne could have a rain water tank.... so many options.

we could have built five brand new "Clean Coal" power plants for the original cost of this ****ing thing... Angry

Lol can’t drink electricity Tongue

You can't live in a first world community without it

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Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ??
Reply #24 - May 22^nd, 2018 at 7:57am

Dnarever wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 7:51pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:36pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:31pm:

Classic Aussie thinking on infrastructure in this thread.

Build something that future-proofs the nation, get bagged out because at the moment its not needed.

Don't build something that future-proofs the nation, get bagged out when its needed.

They will 'fall into the swamp' long before they will ever be needed. Kiss that money good bye and hope we didn't need it for something like hospitals, education and health. ohh wait we do.

Guess that means no funding for Border Force or defence.

You can always be trusted for a moronic non-sequitur, hey champ?

he is right you know ? Nicely points out the flaw in the argument being used against desal.

If you need a desal then build one, if you don't what is the point of having it rust away in the corner of your city costing hundreds of million per year just in case?

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Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ??
Reply #26 - May 22^nd, 2018 at 11:08am

BigOl64 wrote on May 22^nd, 2018 at 7:57am:

Dnarever wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 7:51pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:36pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:31pm:

Classic Aussie thinking on infrastructure in this thread.

Build something that future-proofs the nation, get bagged out because at the moment its not needed.

Don't build something that future-proofs the nation, get bagged out when its needed.

They will 'fall into the swamp' long before they will ever be needed. Kiss that money good bye and hope we didn't need it for something like hospitals, education and health. ohh wait we do.

Guess that means no funding for Border Force or defence.

You can always be trusted for a moronic non-sequitur, hey champ?

he is right you know ? Nicely points out the flaw in the argument being used against desal.

If you need a desal then build one, if you don't what is the point of having it rust away in the corner of your city costing hundreds of million per year just in case?

Yes what a great idea - get the water 3 years after you need it. But then 3 years later you don't need it anymore.

This is exactly why we have one now. We needed it when building started.

Hey they have done exactly what you suggested ???

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62326 Here Gender:	Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ?? Reply #27 - May 22^nd, 2018 at 11:10am miketrees wrote on May 22^nd, 2018 at 9:18am: No one here has been truly thirsty. hold on a sec just the other night I missed a round at the local (bloody phone)
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Re: Why did we build this White Elephant ??
Reply #28 - May 22^nd, 2018 at 11:15am

Dnarever wrote on May 22^nd, 2018 at 11:08am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 22^nd, 2018 at 7:57am:

Dnarever wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 7:51pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:36pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21^st, 2018 at 4:31pm:

Classic Aussie thinking on infrastructure in this thread.

Build something that future-proofs the nation, get bagged out because at the moment its not needed.

Don't build something that future-proofs the nation, get bagged out when its needed.

They will 'fall into the swamp' long before they will ever be needed. Kiss that money good bye and hope we didn't need it for something like hospitals, education and health. ohh wait we do.

Guess that means no funding for Border Force or defence.

You can always be trusted for a moronic non-sequitur, hey champ?

he is right you know ? Nicely points out the flaw in the argument being used against desal.

If you need a desal then build one, if you don't what is the point of having it rust away in the corner of your city costing hundreds of million per year just in case?

Yes what a great idea - get the water 3 years after you need it. But then 3 years later you don't need it anymore.

This is exactly why we have one now. We needed it when building started.

Hey they have done exactly what you suggested ???

Yeah our current dam and most of the rest of Australia has at least three years of water.

Maybe you should look at fixing that problem first before build a desal that costs hundreds of millions just to sit there and fall apart. Believe it or not dams are useful for preventing your population from getting thirsty.

Jeez just have a look at the half a dozen or so white elephants we have parked up all around Australia and tell me truly if you think that was a good idea to waste all that money for absolutely no return.

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Reply #29 - May 22^nd, 2018 at 11:19am

I look at this from a different perspective.

Perth would be totally stuffed without the desal plants.

Our catchment dams are all but useless, groundwater is not never ending, it to will suffer from lack of rain.

So Perth got it right building the desals.

Forget which ever shade of government is in power making decisions, its a gamble to build or not to build.

We dont want to be like Cape Town and have severe water restrictions as they rush to build desal plants.

So Perth got it right Cape Town got it wrong,, it could be next season when the desal is required and it will be there.

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