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Reply #465 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 12:54pm
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 12:45pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 9:47am:
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 9:35am:
Israel is the solution,



only if you are after a 'final solution'


That is a sick reference - even for you.



FD's been using it all weekend ... where was your faux outrage then? Roll Eyes
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Reply #466 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 2:40pm
 
Do you think the holocaust is funny John?
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Reply #467 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 2:41pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 12:37pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 11:59am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 11:57am:
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 10:37am:
At the moment it is a huge success.


Only because it is propped up by the west


It is a huge success
because they value freedom and democracy. They give Arab Muslim citizens more rights and freedoms than they have in any other middle eastern or north african country. Foreign support is a consequence of that, not a cause.

If they treated Muslim citizens the same way that Jews have been treated in neighbouring countries, that support would evaporate.

So why does Israel not reject the gazzions of aid it gets from the West EVERY YEAR?


Beats me. I don't even know what a gazzion is. They are giving aid to Gaza.
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Reply #468 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 3:08pm
 
Gazillion.  Now, let's see what you say about that 'success' built on vast sums of money handed over by the 'West' EVERY YEAR.
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Reply #469 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 3:14pm
 
It is mostly military aid, which seems reasonable to me given that Israel has been holding back Islamic militants from everyone else.

The total cumulative aid they have received since the nation's inception is less than 6 months of Israel's GDP.

Israel's GDP per capita is higher than every other country in the middle east and north africa, including the oil rich gulf states. In fact, as you head east, you do not come across a wealthier nation until you get to Australia, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan. If you head directly north or south, you do not come across a wealthier nation until you get all the way round the world and back to Israel, by which time their GDP has gone up again. They are not rich because of foreign aid. They are rich because they are a liberal democracy and they make a point of not crapping on their own plate like the muslims insist on doing at every opportunity.

In terms of non-military aid, Israel is actually providing this to Palestine. They are happy to feed them, they just don't want them lobbing rockets over the boarder or jumping the fence and taking civilian hostages.

Are you happy now Aussie, or do you still want to slaughter Jews?
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Reply #470 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 3:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 2:41pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 12:37pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 11:59am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 11:57am:
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 10:37am:
At the moment it is a huge success.


Only because it is propped up by the west


It is a huge success
because they value freedom and democracy. They give Arab Muslim citizens more rights and freedoms than they have in any other middle eastern or north african country. Foreign support is a consequence of that, not a cause.

If they treated Muslim citizens the same way that Jews have been treated in neighbouring countries, that support would evaporate.

So why does Israel not reject the gazzions of aid it gets from the West EVERY YEAR?


Beats me. I don't even know what a gazzion is. They are giving aid to Gaza.

...



2008–2009 Gaza Strip aid
Following the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict, an international conference took place on 2 March 2009 in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, where donor countries and international bodies pledged almost US$4.5 billion for humanitarian and reconstruction aid for the Gaza Strip.
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Reply #471 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 3:32pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 3:14pm:
It is mostly military aid, which seems reasonable to me given that Israel has been holding back Islamic militants from everyone else.

The total cumulative aid they have received since the nation's inception is less than 6 months of Israel's GDP.

Israel's GDP per capita is higher than every other country in the middle east and north africa, including the oil rich gulf states. In fact, as you head east, you do not come across a wealthier nation until you get to Australia, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan. If you head directly north or south, you do not come across a wealthier nation until you get all the way round the world and back to Israel, by which time their GDP has gone up again. They are not rich because of foreign aid. They are rich because they are a liberal democracy and they make a point of not crapping on their own plate like the muslims insist on doing at every opportunity.

Are you happy now Aussie, or do you still want to slaughter Jews?


The only person here talking about slaughtering Jews is you FD.  You seem to get off on the idea ~ you seek to weaponize the notion.

I've not fact checked your other claims about GDP etc, but taking them as correct, why then is the West spoon feeding the place ANNUALLY and why is the place accepting the spoon feed?

Is Israel suckering the West?:
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Reply #472 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 4:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 10:37am:
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Is there a point where we can say that the Israel experiment of 1947 has failed?


Sure. If Israel becomes a failed state. At the moment it is a huge success.

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For how long can this go on for before it leads to nuclear weapons being used and WW3?


Israel can continue to exist indefinitely.

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How much more suffering can the world tolerate?


The world is already turning against Hamas. Even the Muslims are calling them out as the cause of the suffering.



I disagree.

"At the moment it is a huge success." - not really - it's always at war.



"Israel can continue to exist indefinitely."  - I doubt that.
It has is little strategic depth and is surrounded by Muslims
who have been commanded by none other than Muhammad himself - peace be upon him -
to hate and kill all Jews.



"The world is already turning against Hamas." - yes but not against  millions of innocent Palestinians.
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Reply #473 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 4:36pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 3:32pm:
The only person here talking about slaughtering Jews is you FD.  You seem to get off on the idea ~ you seek to weaponize the notion.

I've not fact checked your other claims about GDP etc, but taking them as correct, why then is the West spoon feeding the place ANNUALLY and why is the place accepting the spoon feed?

Is Israel suckering the West?:



The USA supplies arms to Israel but it has many strings attached  e.g.

they limit the export of Israeli arms to other countries as
Israel could be self sufficient if they were allowed to manufacture
huge amounts of high tech modern weapons
and export them all around the world for massive profits.
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Reply #474 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 4:40pm
 

Israel could ultimately lose their wars because the brightest and best people
will simply leave Israel and get jobs in other countries -
an exodus by the millions.

Who would want to live there -
with Iranian rockets that could land on your head every time Bibi starts yet another war?




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Reply #475 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 8:34pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
Do you think the holocaust is funny John?


I think you're funny fd, and not in a good way Roll Eyes
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Reply #476 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 9:21pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
Do you think the holocaust is funny John?


The holocaust was one of the worst crimes ever committed against a people but

I don't think it is a good excuse for doing the same thing to Palestinian people.

I don't subscribe to the two wrongs making a right theory.

What the germans did was wrong what Hamas did was wrong and what the Jewish people have done is wrong. Killing innocent people is wrong doesn't matter who is doing it.
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Reply #477 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 9:22pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
Do you think the holocaust is funny John?


The holocaust was one of the worst crimes ever committed against a people but

I don't think it is a good excuse for doing the same thing to Palestinian people.

I don't subscribe to the two wrongs making a right theory.

What the germans did was wrong what Hamas did was wrong and what the Jewish people have done is wrong. Killing innocent people is wrong doesn't matter who is doing it.



I agree with you.
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Reply #478 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 10:06pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
I don't think it is a good excuse for doing the same thing to Palestinian people.


FD would have made an excellent SS officer
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Reply #479 - Aug 4th, 2025 at 10:08pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 9:22pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 9:21pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 4th, 2025 at 2:40pm:
Do you think the holocaust is funny John?


The holocaust was one of the worst crimes ever committed against a people but

I don't think it is a good excuse for doing the same thing to Palestinian people.

I don't subscribe to the two wrongs making a right theory.

What the germans did was wrong what Hamas did was wrong and what the Jewish people have done is wrong. Killing innocent people is wrong doesn't matter who is doing it.



I agree with you.


Most people agree. It's only the islamaphobes who are happy with genocide as long as it's 'their' side doing the killing
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