Setanta wrote on Apr 23
rd, 2018 at 12:22am:
I don't think anyone is "forgiven" by a deity.
I don't live my life like I have forgiveness.
I live my life like I have to bear my "sins" myself without forgiveness.
I bear my own folly and do not expect someone to save me.
This forms my decisions, I don't have second chances or forgiveness.
Lessons learned from my mistakes sit much more deeply with me than some one that is forgiven and bears no guilt.
My decisions therefore are not made lightly.
I accept personal responsibility.
People who believe that they bear no guilt are mistaken.
"I have to bear my "sins" myself without forgiveness."Isn't that [belief that there can be no forgiveness] because we believe that the 'essence' of what we are [our 'individuality'] resides only within our physical body
only while our physical body continues to 'prevail' here ?
And [you believe] that, when our physical body suddenly 'ends', that our consciousness [and our 'individuality'] at that time is 'destructed' ?
Setanta,
Isn't it true, that many individuals [today] conceive and believe, that any 'existence' and any 'knowledge' [that 'resides' within our [individual] consciousness], can only exist within [the existence of] our mortal shell [and, while it exists here] ?
[If you do not believe that. Then what ?]
See, Setanta, [i imagine that] you believe in the validity of [you have confidence in] the mass consciousness [and the mass knowledge] of the group.
i.e.
Most individuals find 'validity', within the group [within the mass consciousness of mankind].
[If you do not believe that. Then what ?]
If we, are, a human being, then our reason and our senses will always tend to accept and reinforce the [established] common [group] perception 'of our reality' [i.e. our 'circumstance' here].
And [group] reason [always] dictates, that
any reality which is not perceived by the mass consciousness of mankind [of the group], is not, cannot, be real.
i.e.
The ['collective'] intelligence of the group, is always [and has always been] assumed to be superior,
to the 'perceptions' or spoken-out-loud reasoning of any individual.
Throughout human history, every iconoclast has been despised and ridiculed.
John 8:24
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Jesus, is alive.
Jesus nao esta morto.While the mass consciousness of mankind again declares;
Foolishness!John 3:14
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Jesus, is alive.