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Reply #75 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:40pm
 
LOL on another indirectly related issue... The Albedo Effect.
Monk as with all issues knows nothing and simply regurgitates verbatim articles and graphs and images, no matter how wrong he actually is.
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Reply #76 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:42pm
 
No, roach it is really VERY simple.

1. Almost ALL glaciers are retreating. They are retreating because the world is warming.

2. A very few glaciers, in high latitudes or high altitudes and favorably oriented with respect to prevailing winds benefit from the increased precipitation, as snow, caused by increased evaporation caused by AGW.

Some of the glaciers retreating are massive: Jacobshavn and Petermann on Greenland, Pine Island and Thwaites on West Antarctica and Totten on East Antarctica. Also some in the Himalayan ice sheet. Sea level rise will continue accelerating.
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Reply #77 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:44pm
 
With ice and snow retreating almost everywhere albedo is a positive feedback for AGW, roach. The rapid warming in the Arctic due AGW + albedo is called Arctic Amplification. It is playing merry hob with the Jet Stream and even the Polar Vortex.
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Reply #78 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:47pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:44pm:
With ice and snow retreating almost everywhere albedo is a positive feedback for AGW, roach. The rapid warming in the Arctic due AGW + albedo is called Arctic Amplification. It is playing merry hob with the Jet Stream and even the Polar Vortex.



Monk - can you try to be unbiased like me and
admit that there are strong arguments on both sides of this debate?
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Reply #79 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:47pm
 
And, roach, I do not just repost articles, papers etc. I post extracts but also give my own commentary. Not just wrong roach—dishonest too. Such is the lot of deniers now  Smiley
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Reply #80 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:48pm
 
JM has implict faith in the Model fairy. Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:33pm:
but NOAA fiddles the data you cry desperately



So when are you going to tell us about 1997 62.45ºF being somehow cooler than 2016 58.69ºF.

That is what NOAA data shows. Wink
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Reply #81 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:49pm
 
You are not unbiased, you believe Dubyne and the nonsense he puts in his videos implicitly. It is really quite icky to see the puppy love with with you regard that liar!

LOOK at my charts! Temperatures are going up and ice extent (and volume even more) is decreasing. For gods sake show some backbone, some independence, some dignity. Ick!
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Reply #82 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:50pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:47pm:
I post extracts but also give my own commentary.



You mean like CNN, The Atlantic, The  Garudian? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #83 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:59pm
 
You know, I had a thought today. Lees is not just a 20th century person trapped in the 21st, he is really an 18th or 19th century person trapped in the 21st century.

Lees yearns for stability, for stasis.

Too bad lees, you should have lived in the 19th century. In that century the duty on Scottish ales was constant so we have Scottish 140/- ale, 120 shilling ale etc. The duty per barrel of ale did not change until 1905 or so. Imagine: a century where prices remained so stable beers could be named after the duty paid per barrel.

Your bad luck: you are in the 21st century where IA, quantum computing, AGW, Marriage Equality, editing the human genome etc etc are all mainstream or about to be. Your SUV will be considered a quaint old relic among sleek EVs who just leave your SUV in the dust—and are cheaper to run as well!

And AGW and sea level rise are going to rudely intrude into your life and lifestyle.

I would feel sorry for you but life has to change and adapt or die and you are a fossil.
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Reply #84 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:59pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:48pm:
JM has implict faith in the Model fairy. Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:33pm:
but NOAA fiddles the data you cry desperately



So when are you going to tell us about 1997 62.45ºF being somehow cooler than 2016 58.69ºF.

That is what NOAA data shows. Wink


Yes and we had whole posts about fake NOAA & NASA data
all fudged to make it look like it was warming when it was cooling - of course Monk ignored every article.


We had articles where scientists explained that they were there
to prove global warming not normal climate variation or global cooling.
They would lose their funding if they found that so what did they do?

answer

they fudged the figures.
Scientific fraud is all around us.

Monk gets sucked in by it - as though he was a little child.
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Reply #85 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 7:04pm
 
Dubyne the liar said BoM and De Bilt fudged the figures. He had his arse handed back to him on both occasions.

When the only thing you can say in the face of rising temperatures, rising sea levels and decreasing ice “the figures are rigged” then you are clinging on to a faith, a faith in Booby’s case in a transparent liar called Dubyne.

There was a blue aurora—must be an ice age!

A GSM is supposed to bring in a minor ice age. A 0.3°C temporary cooling compared to 1.2°C warming is supposed to bring in an ice age? Booby, do you believe Narnia, Peter Pan, Robin Hood, the tooth fairy etc are real???
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Reply #86 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 7:07pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:59pm:
You know, I had a thought today. Lees is not just a 20th century person trapped in the 21st, he is really an 18th or 19th century person trapped in the 21st century.


Wow. One on one day; a new world record. even if it is wrong.

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:59pm:
Too bad lees, you should have lived in the 19th century. In that century the duty on Scottish ales was constant so we have Scottish 140/- ale, 120 shilling ale etc. The duty per barrel of ale did not change until 1905 or so. Imagine: a century where prices remained so stable beers could be named after the duty paid per barrel.

Your bad luck: you are in the 21st century where IA, quantum computing, AGW, Marriage Equality, editing the human genome etc etc are all mainstream or about to be. Your SUV will be considered a quaint old relic among sleek EVs who just leave your SUV in the dust—and are cheaper to run as well!

And AGW and sea level rise are going to rudely intrude into your life and lifestyle.


Well at 70 years of age it had better happen faster than your predictions. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 26th, 2018 at 6:59pm:
I would feel sorry for you but life has to change and adapt or die and you are a fossil.



Guess what? Even if we adapt we still die. We are not immortal.

Jeez your drivel is not of this world.

Have you looked at ushcn raw data versus adjusted data? Or isn't that part of your world?
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Reply #87 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 7:09pm
 
Poor old Lees, a 19th century fossil in a 21st century world.
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Reply #88 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 7:13pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 26th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Poor old Lees, a 19th 20th century fossil in a 21st century world.



But JM is going into his second childhood so he can claim 21st century status. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #89 - Apr 26th, 2018 at 7:16pm
 
You could, if you wanted to, feel sorry for Booby.

Why wasn’t he given an education? He is not a nice person—ad homs just stream from him—but I think has some intelligence unlike, say, The Moronic.

But no capacity, no background in science, his fear of AGW saw him believe a snake oil seller like Dubyne. A blue aurora means an ice age. A heavy snowfall means cooling—no, it means precipitation.

Somebody tells him to try the undamped system crap. It goes down like a lead balloon because Booby doesn’t understand him. Who told you to try the feedback fairy tale Booby? Then someone tells you about cloud chambers—something I learned about in 1968—but you don’t realise the conditions in a cloud chamber are not the same as in the atmosphere.

The globe is warming, Booby, not cooling and for gods sake realise that before you end up in the booby hatch!
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