DonDeeHippy wrote on May 3^rd, 2018 at 8:09am:



You really are a dill; aren't you? Continually distort what was said. I am guessing you are school age from your level of "sophisticated" argument.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 3^rd, 2018 at 8:09am:



You also don't understand statistics. Do you really think they do post mortems and say "this one died of pollution"?

All those millions that have died of pollution and yet the average age, in China, is on a par with or even better than the States.

You do know how they work out average age of death? Put all deaths and ages into a database and then average. Seems reasonable.

Now how do they work out the deaths due to pollution?

"For the first time, this study has produced a model that links the UK energy system model used by the government and the Climate Change Committee with a sophisticated chemical-transport model for air quality. We then used the resulting concentrations to estimate health impacts and the differential exposures in socioeconomic classes"

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(18)30067-6/fullt...


"In one of the most extensive reports of its kind, environmental health experts have estimated that nine million premature deaths worldwide—16% of all deaths—were linked to pollution in 2015, with the majority of deaths coming from air pollution.

The new study, published in the journal The Lancet "

http://time.com/4989641/water-air-pollution-deaths/

"Particularly worrying, the agency added, was that more than 40 per cent of the global population still does not have access to clean cooking fuels and technologies in their homes.

The use of dirty cooking fuel, like burning charcoal, is a major source of household air pollution, which is estimated to cause some 3.8 million premature deaths each year."

https://gulfnews.com/leisure/health/nine-out-of-10-people-breathing-polluted-air...

Now which countries are most affected? Those without "clean cooking fuels and technologies". Like gas or electric stoves.

Burning unventilated coal and biomass.

And you want to save people from themselves by using intermittent power. That may or may not be there when people want to cook, warm their accommodation.

You want to put them on already scarce land that currently feeds them.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 5^th, 2018 at 7:38am:



You are the one keeps banging on about renewables.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 7^th, 2018 at 6:38am:


Deforestion of the amazon is of particular concern to me,,

Jovial Monk wrote on May 7^th, 2018 at 6:40pm:


Very good Monk ,we shall teach you a couple of new words tomorrow 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180413093529.htm

Even the briefest increase in airborne fine particulate matter PM2.5, pollution-causing particles that are about 3 percent of the diameter of human hair, is associated with the development of acute lower respiratory infection (ALRI) in young children, according to newly published research.
Increases in PM2.5 levels also led to increased doctor visits for these lung infections.
The groundbreaking study, "Short-Term Elevation of Fine Particulate Matter Air Pollution and Acute Lower Respiratory Infection," is the largest to date on this health concern, involving more than 100,000 patients

Long as fossil fuels are around this will happen.

lee wrote on May 17^th, 2018 at 1:19pm:

Wow lee 

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 7^th, 2018 at 6:38am:

Calm down take a bex and stop spreading alarmist claptrap then.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/05/work-home-cut-car-pollution-deaths-o...

The study examined the health costs of air pollution, concluding that emissions from cars and vans are costing almost £6 billion year in damage - most of it due to diesel vehicles.
The research concludes that more than 10,000 premature deaths a year are being caused by pollutants from cars, such as nitrogen dioxide.
Nearly 90 per cent of all the health costs associated with pollution from cars and vans is down to diesel vehicles.
The authors of the report called for radical changes in lifestyles, even if that meant being confined to the home.
They said the “inconvenient truth” was that individuals needed to do more to reduce reliance on cars, and should stay at home more if they could not find a “cleaner travel mode”.
“Options you can do today include tele-shopping, tele-working, tele-conferencing or tele-socialising,” the study recommends.
Overall, around 40,000 premature deaths a year have been linked to all forms of air pollution.

Chris Large from charity Global Action Plan said: “Swapping one in four car journeys in urban areas for walking or cycling could save over £1.1 billion in health damage costs per year. Switching 1 million cars from diesel to electric would save more than £360 million per year in health costs from local air pollution.”

Wow that's 2 billion AUD and just walking and cycling, basically getting out of the car and exercising.
Ohh wait its just speculation....... all those ppl getting sick and dying but its all speculation.... dam those scientists working out fossil fuel emissions have a link to ppl dying.....how dare they 
hhmm I wonder why there r no reports on How good Fossil fuels are for the human body. how they extend life or the smog clouds in big cities help ppl.....