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Re: Is global warming a distraction ?
Reply #30 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:59pm

lee wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 6:46pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 6:36pm:

As prices lower there r more and more coal plants being cancelled, it’s just economics, u go with what’s cheeper

Yeah. Bugger reliability of supply. Solar don't output power at night, except for solar salt and they seem to be having troubles with that.

Ohhh just use solar for day use, it’s then a engineering problem of storage for night time use, solar isn’t the only kid on the block wind gets harder at night and is a problem of over supply maybe electro water to make hydrogen or methan and last 10 years lithium battery halved price and doubled density.
Tidal in Scotland is projected by the government to fully power the country and have successful prototypes working enough to power 2000 houses and of course wind and hydro and thermal and in 20 years possibility of 4 th gen nuclear that use up the waste fuel already used.

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Re: Is global warming a distraction ?
Reply #31 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:22pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

wind gets harder at night and is a problem of over supply

You do know that wind has a problem when it blows too hard and when it blows not enough?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

maybe electro water to make hydrogen or methan

Not cost effective.

Tidal power MAY have a future. However the salty environment is a problem.

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Reply #32 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:59pm

lee wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

wind gets harder at night and is a problem of over supply

You do know that wind has a problem when it blows too hard and when it blows not enough?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

maybe electro water to make hydrogen or methan

Not cost effective.

Tidal power MAY have a future. However the salty environment is a problem.

Haha good thing there has been no advances in the world.
Salty environment doesn’t seam to stop boats or oil rigs
What would u recommend ?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21541 Gender:	Re: Is global warming a distraction ? Reply #33 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 9:10pm DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:59pm: Salty environment doesn’t seam to stop boats or oil rigs Do you know how much is spent on maintenance? It is not an inconsiderable sum.
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Re: Is global warming a distraction ?
Reply #34 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 10:28am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 3:36pm:

lee wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 2:43pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 12:25pm:

I think the thing its all about is getting rid of poisons in the air.

You have heard of the filters attached to modern coal fired power stations?

Ok im trying to find out about them in Aussie power stations ive tried googling even your words with australia i cant find it
I did however find this artical and im within 50km of one.....

news ,com,au/news/report-finds-us-china-and-the-eu-have-higher-standards-for-air-poll
ution-caused-by-power-stations-than-australia/news-story
if its true the filters r not well here i Australia

1. Fabric filters

2. Electrostatic precipitators

3. Scrubbing

All can be used to minimise pollution

The only reason they want everyone off the fossil fuels is so the military can have fossil fuel power for thousands of years to come.

And the fact that they want to tax every man woman and child for the air they consume / breathe..... Kiss

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Re: Is global warming a distraction ?
Reply #35 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 4:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 5:07pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 4:52pm:

lee wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

If a solar plant was installed next to existing power line or existing power plant I'm not sure where the huge prices would come from, I think they should make solar parks on the huge ash dams coal power plants make.

How big do you think 110 MW solar plant is?

Desert Dunes solar salt - 296 acres for the array itself. The site area is 1670 acres.

The sad truth about wind-power, solar-power, wave-power, and ebb-and-flow power is that they only produce a pathetically small percentage of the power needed to service First World civilisations.

And I'm with Bob Hawke when he says we should be using our own uranium to provide us with clean and cheap power source for all our industrial, civic, and domestic power needs.

No - not Uranium.

Thorium will outclass Uranium and make it obsolete before any power station is built.

Thorium again Grin

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: Is global warming a distraction ? Reply #36 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 4:46pm lee wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 9:10pm: DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:59pm: Salty environment doesn’t seam to stop boats or oil rigs Do you know how much is spent on maintenance? It is not an inconsiderable sum. Maintenance of a market place requires government intervention! Simple!
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Reply #37 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 4:49pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:59pm:

lee wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

wind gets harder at night and is a problem of over supply

You do know that wind has a problem when it blows too hard and when it blows not enough?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:59pm:

maybe electro water to make hydrogen or methan

Not cost effective.

Tidal power MAY have a future. However the salty environment is a problem.

Haha good thing there has been no advances in the world.
Salty environment doesn’t seam to stop boats or oil rigs
What would u recommend ?

Lee forgets the market place is government intervened: he pretends it's all a free markets but, of course, lee represents those who know where the bread is buttered!

Cheesy

----> go the dregs of society called lee(s) Cheesy

Lee forgets the market place is government intervened: he pretends it's all a free markets but, of course, lee represents those who know where the bread is buttered!

----> go the dregs of society called lee(s) [/color

[color=#ff0000]Lee forgets the market place is government intervened: he pretends it's all a free markets but, of course, lee represents those who know where the bread is buttered!

Cheesy

----> go the dregs of society called lee(s) Cheesy

Lee forgets the market place is government intervened: he pretends it's all a free markets but, of course, lee represents those who know where the bread is buttered!

----> go the dregs of society called lee(s) [/color

[color=#ff0000]Lee forgets the market place is government intervened: he pretends it's all a free markets but, of course, lee represents those who know where the bread is buttered!

Cheesy

----> go the dregs of society called lee(s) Cheesy

[color=#ff0000]Lee forgets the market place is government intervened: he pretends it's all a free markets but, of course, lee represents those who know where the bread is buttered!

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Re: Is global warming a distraction ?
Reply #38 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 4:52pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 4:52pm:

lee wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 4:36pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

If a solar plant was installed next to existing power line or existing power plant I'm not sure where the huge prices would come from, I think they should make solar parks on the huge ash dams coal power plants make.

How big do you think 110 MW solar plant is?

Desert Dunes solar salt - 296 acres for the array itself. The site area is 1670 acres.

The sad truth about wind-power, solar-power, wave-power, and ebb-and-flow power is that they only produce a pathetically small percentage of the power needed to service First World civilisations.

And I'm with Bob Hawke when he says we should be using our own uranium to provide us with clean and cheap power source for all our industrial, civic, and domestic power needs.

Im not sure where u get your info but 2016 there was 160 gw on new renewable power and around 80 in fossil that is more than needed for Africa, Australia is about 20 gw . Every dollar spent on renewable was matched by 4 dollars spent on maintaining existing FF plants.
Time to ignore and find a new topic

Bob Hawke knows that America doesn't want Australia to get into Nuclear Power!

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Re: Is global warming a distraction ?
Reply #40 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 5:15pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:42am:

Yes ive read, global warming is bad, will happen , also is good or just isn't going to happen.
I put it in the same category as if god is real and evolution, I just don't know enough myself and depends on what site I goto either argument sounds fine.
What I've noticed as long as there is the climate change debate happening no one seams to talk about the poisons emited eg nitrogen oxide and even smog.
Its very easy to say there is no global warming and forget about what the skys r like around the huge cities of the world .
I guess what I'm saying is that if I made money out of a product that poisoned ppl, id be looking for a distraction that everyone could fight over.
Heaven forbid if everyone was on the same page about getting pollutants out of the air

That's throwing the cat amongst the pigeons!

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Reply #41 - Apr 20^th, 2018 at 8:02am

TheFunPolice wrote on Apr 18^th, 2018 at 5:15pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:42am:

Yes ive read, global warming is bad, will happen , also is good or just isn't going to happen.
I put it in the same category as if god is real and evolution, I just don't know enough myself and depends on what site I goto either argument sounds fine.
What I've noticed as long as there is the climate change debate happening no one seams to talk about the poisons emited eg nitrogen oxide and even smog.
Its very easy to say there is no global warming and forget about what the skys r like around the huge cities of the world .
I guess what I'm saying is that if I made money out of a product that poisoned ppl, id be looking for a distraction that everyone could fight over.
Heaven forbid if everyone was on the same page about getting pollutants out of the air

That's throwing the cat amongst the pigeons!

Cheesy

And yet they sit down a watch them

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DonDeeHippy Gold Member Offline Cool Stuff Posts: 2782 Australia Gender:	Re: Is global warming a distraction ? Reply #42 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:35am who realized that 3 millions death a year because of poisons in the air . https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/27/more-than-million-died-due-a... if we r in a ice age or a hothouse these ppl r still dying every year.
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Reply #43 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 4:45pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:35am:

who realized that 3 millions death a year because of poisons in the air .
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/27/more-than-million-died-due-a...

if we r in a ice age or a hothouse these ppl r still dying every year.

Ain't stats wonderful. Nothing to do with the real world.

PM2.5? Guess what folks terpenes, those lovely things that give the Blue Mountains their name? They are about PM 2.5. Damn another neighbourhood cleanup. Do what the EPA in the States wanted to do ban anything PM2.5 or less across state boundaries. Yeah, that should work.

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Re: Is global warming a distraction ?
Reply #44 - May 3^rd, 2018 at 8:09am

lee wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 4:45pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:35am:

who realized that 3 millions death a year because of poisons in the air .
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/27/more-than-million-died-due-a...

if we r in a ice age or a hothouse these ppl r still dying every year.

Ain't stats wonderful. Nothing to do with the real world.

PM2.5? Guess what folks terpenes, those lovely things that give the Blue Mountains their name? They are about PM 2.5. Damn another neighbourhood cleanup. Do what the EPA in the States wanted to do ban anything PM2.5 or less across state boundaries. Yeah, that should work.

wow Lee, china is spending all that money and resources cleaning up their cities and all they had to do was talk to u and they would of realized the air in Beijing is fine .
Maybe sent a letter to WHO as well and tell them to stop that damn lying.
I think u should set yourself up for all those lawyers around the world that are defending pollution, we can throw all those cases out.

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