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Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam
Reply #225 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 12:13am

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 10:50pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 4:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 2:51pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

Trying to pretend you are deserved respect because you once wore a uniform doesnt cut it for me. All this 'served " business is jingoistic propoganda perpetuated by the Yanks. Refuelling aircraft remote from any war zone and in less danger than the average desk jockey is not something to dine out on. In fact it reeks of desperation to try to be somehow important because you have achieved nothing else in life other than to be a low level grunt performing a mediocre job. And yes Big ole I have been in war zones. What about you? I was also in Butterworth in the early 80s , no claim to fame there.

Errr, refuelling aircraft is actually quite a dangerous job, Rhino. You need to make sure that the fuel pump is earthed, the aircraft is earthed and that the fuel supply is earthed as well. You need to wear rubber soled boots. There is a big danger of a spark setting the whole lot off. Roll Eyes

Show how many people were killed or injured refuelling aircraft in the last ten years. Lots of "dangerous" jobs around if the person is untrained. Big woop.

The point is, Rhino, it takes training to know and understand the risk involved and do the job safely. In the army, there is a six-week PetOp course, which covers all aspects of refuelling vehicles and aircraft. It takes six-weeks to teach people properly. It is why PetOps learn to wear gas-masks during refuelling of large quantities of Jerrycans. If you don't, you get high and you're basically stuffed for the day. It is why PetOps have to surrender all matches/lighters/cigarettes when going on shift. Nowadays, not a big problem but 30 years ago a huge problem for the smokers. Roll Eyes

Back in the day, it was used to clean everything from hands to gun parts, not as good as Turco, but better than sh1t we were s'pose to use.

Back in the day troops were nothing more than a 'C Class' item, to be put to task as required.

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Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam
Reply #226 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 12:18am

Big Donger wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 11:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 10:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:55pm:

a man who actually went there.

My father served in Korea, you can't get him to say much but I have gotten a few very short stories over the years. My father's brother did two tours in VietNam, my second cousin died there. The first doesn't talk about it, the second can't.

Edit: For anyone there that may have known him, Colin Lithgow, died by mine, definitely not the way you want to get legless.

For the most part, there's nothing to say. Only trumped-up pussies krap on about "service". I can't think of any operations since WWII that served anybody.

You?

For someone who has never done any, I can't see why your vagina is so dry and sandy about the term. It is just a word, there are more esoteric terms, but most civilians like yourself only get confused and angry when they don't understand what is being said.

So stop trying so hard to sound so fkking ANZAC we all know you are a massive bullsh1t artist, time to let the lie die.

All military service is valid, even yours if you had ever done any.

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Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam
Reply #227 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 6:45am

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 10:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:55pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:07pm:

A good soundtrack to a good story: Conrad's Heart of Darkness set in the backdrop of Amerika's total war in Vietnam. An Oedipal story about the son slaying the father.

But Nam wasn't like that for Aussies. For a start, it was a war, not a quest or an adventure. And the one, defining thing about war?

Boredom.

Soldiers spend most of their time waiting. They never give you any information. Finally, they send you into some dumb mishap, and it's all over in a couple of hours. You sink or swim. Most soldiers only get a couple of battles. You get in - and out - as quickly as you can. And that's if you're not injured or killed. Those soldiers only get one.

Modern soldiering is usually peacekeeping - gangs of kids walking around the streets or going from house to house feeling important. We did a bit of that in Nam.

But jungle warfare's in and out, mostly finding nothing, or if you do, copping a hiding. Soldiers knew from the pointlessness of it that it was unwinnable. Sure, there were a few Big Hole bullsht-artists over there, and officers and careerists, but the blokes that went into the jungle knew: it was their country, they'd keep it.

All the rest was hanging around barracks in the humidity, drinking warm beer. Endless cleaning, pointless drills. The devil makes work with idle hands, and boys' minds turn to mischief. You had to be able to look after yourself. The officers were scared shtless of us. The NCOs were cnts.

Now if I feel like it, I'll give you a real ANZAC Day story. But if I hear one peep out of Hole, it's off.

Can't wait for your story Karnal -

a man who actually went there.

Nor can I and I will show the respect you so truly fkking deserve.

Don't forget date and location, champ

BigOl,
you're just jealous that you never served in active combat.
You have no war stories.
Show some respect for the men who served on the front line.

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Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam
Reply #228 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:32am

nothing to see here , just a bunch of white folk attacking their own warship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

https://fair.org/media-beat-column/30-year-anniversary-tonkin-gulf-lie-launched-...

30-Year Anniversary: Tonkin Gulf Lie Launched Vietnam War

as a pretext to war and invade another colored mans world ..

move along , nothing to see

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118914 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam Reply #229 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:55am And so it is - a war that was created from a false flag operation.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61501 Here Gender:	Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam Reply #230 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:16am BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 6:42pm: But I don't have to prove sh1t to you do I? I would think that applies to them as well ??? And this topic targeting Karnal too ?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 118914 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam Reply #231 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 9:57am Dnarever wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:16am: BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 6:42pm: But I don't have to prove sh1t to you do I? I would think that applies to them as well ??? And this topic targeting Karnal too ? This thread doesn't target Karnal. It's about all posters here who claim military service.
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Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam
Reply #232 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 10:52am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 9:57am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 6:42pm:

But I don't have to prove sh1t to you do I?

I would think that applies to them as well ???

And this topic targeting Karnal too ?

This thread doesn't target Karnal.
It's about all posters here who claim military service.

If that were true Karnal would not be in the topics title and the lead post would not be specifically asking Karnal to put the rumors to rest ????

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam Reply #233 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 11:55am Gordon wrote on Apr 6^th, 2018 at 11:23pm: Karnal's only trip to Vietnam was as a backapacker with his over weight indian boyfriend. The most heroic thing he did was give his fat curry fkbuddy a shove from behind when he got stuck while taking a tour of the VC tunnel system in Chu Chi.
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Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam
Reply #234 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 12:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 6:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 10:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:55pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:07pm:

A good soundtrack to a good story: Conrad's Heart of Darkness set in the backdrop of Amerika's total war in Vietnam. An Oedipal story about the son slaying the father.

But Nam wasn't like that for Aussies. For a start, it was a war, not a quest or an adventure. And the one, defining thing about war?

Boredom.

Soldiers spend most of their time waiting. They never give you any information. Finally, they send you into some dumb mishap, and it's all over in a couple of hours. You sink or swim. Most soldiers only get a couple of battles. You get in - and out - as quickly as you can. And that's if you're not injured or killed. Those soldiers only get one.

Modern soldiering is usually peacekeeping - gangs of kids walking around the streets or going from house to house feeling important. We did a bit of that in Nam.

But jungle warfare's in and out, mostly finding nothing, or if you do, copping a hiding. Soldiers knew from the pointlessness of it that it was unwinnable. Sure, there were a few Big Hole bullsht-artists over there, and officers and careerists, but the blokes that went into the jungle knew: it was their country, they'd keep it.

All the rest was hanging around barracks in the humidity, drinking warm beer. Endless cleaning, pointless drills. The devil makes work with idle hands, and boys' minds turn to mischief. You had to be able to look after yourself. The officers were scared shtless of us. The NCOs were cnts.

Now if I feel like it, I'll give you a real ANZAC Day story. But if I hear one peep out of Hole, it's off.

Can't wait for your story Karnal -

a man who actually went there.

Nor can I and I will show the respect you so truly fkking deserve.

Don't forget date and location, champ

BigOl,
you're just jealous that you never served in active combat.
You have no war stories.
Show some respect for the men who served on the front line.

But if I wanted to be a grunt then I would have enlisted as a grunt, wouldn't I?

If I wanted to 'go to war' then I would have just stayed in or re-enlisted, wouldn't I?

But I didn't did I?

Im fine with my military career, which is more than you and the impostor have done, haven't you?

You are in no position to question anyone, champ

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Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam
Reply #235 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 12:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 9:57am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 6:42pm:

But I don't have to prove sh1t to you do I?

I would think that applies to them as well ???

And this topic targeting Karnal too ?

This thread doesn't target Karnal.
It's about all posters here who claim military service.

No it is just about karnal and his claims of bravery, you put it right in the title.

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babs Full Member Offline Posts: 229	Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam Reply #236 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 12:32pm this thread is a hoot and you know when they use the word "son" to refer to other posters the they are the real deal lol- its also mandatory to post a few videos of Apocallyse Now to bolster your credibilty Lying about being an ex service man is the least inoffensive thing about Karnal-
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Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam
Reply #237 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 1:31pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 12:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 9:57am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 6:42pm:

But I don't have to prove sh1t to you do I?

I would think that applies to them as well ???

And this topic targeting Karnal too ?

This thread doesn't target Karnal.
It's about all posters here who claim military service.

No it is just about karnal and his claims of bravery, you put it right in the title.

It's about all your huge claims too buddy.

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Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam
Reply #238 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 1:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 1:31pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 12:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 9:57am:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:16am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 6:42pm:

But I don't have to prove sh1t to you do I?

I would think that applies to them as well ???

And this topic targeting Karnal too ?

This thread doesn't target Karnal.
It's about all posters here who claim military service.

No it is just about karnal and his claims of bravery, you put it right in the title.

It's about all your huge claims too buddy.

And what would that be champ?

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Re: Karnal was a brave soldier in Vietnam
Reply #239 - Apr 8^th, 2018 at 1:53pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 12:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 6:45am:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 10:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:55pm:

Big Donger wrote on Apr 7^th, 2018 at 9:07pm:

A good soundtrack to a good story: Conrad's Heart of Darkness set in the backdrop of Amerika's total war in Vietnam. An Oedipal story about the son slaying the father.

But Nam wasn't like that for Aussies. For a start, it was a war, not a quest or an adventure. And the one, defining thing about war?

Boredom.

Soldiers spend most of their time waiting. They never give you any information. Finally, they send you into some dumb mishap, and it's all over in a couple of hours. You sink or swim. Most soldiers only get a couple of battles. You get in - and out - as quickly as you can. And that's if you're not injured or killed. Those soldiers only get one.

Modern soldiering is usually peacekeeping - gangs of kids walking around the streets or going from house to house feeling important. We did a bit of that in Nam.

But jungle warfare's in and out, mostly finding nothing, or if you do, copping a hiding. Soldiers knew from the pointlessness of it that it was unwinnable. Sure, there were a few Big Hole bullsht-artists over there, and officers and careerists, but the blokes that went into the jungle knew: it was their country, they'd keep it.

All the rest was hanging around barracks in the humidity, drinking warm beer. Endless cleaning, pointless drills. The devil makes work with idle hands, and boys' minds turn to mischief. You had to be able to look after yourself. The officers were scared shtless of us. The NCOs were cnts.

Now if I feel like it, I'll give you a real ANZAC Day story. But if I hear one peep out of Hole, it's off.

Can't wait for your story Karnal -

a man who actually went there.

Nor can I and I will show the respect you so truly fkking deserve.

Don't forget date and location, champ

BigOl,
you're just jealous that you never served in active combat.
You have no war stories.
Show some respect for the men who served on the front line.

But if I wanted to be a grunt then I would have enlisted as a grunt, wouldn't I?

If I wanted to 'go to war' then I would have just stayed in or re-enlisted, wouldn't I?

But I didn't did I?

No, love, you didn't.

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