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Re: Beyond Blue a Joke?
Reply #15 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 1:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 12:24pm:

cods wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 12:16pm:

I also heard that Go Fund Me takes 30cents in every dollar....donated....

anyone know if thats true..

at the end of the day

these associations are meant to be helping others not themselves..

They are helping others, but there are always admin costs.

If I give $100 to a charity and $90 goes to admin, it doesn't really bother me that much.

At least some money is getting to those who need it, and the admin people in the charity office have a job.

I honestly can't see why people complain about this.

The alternative is, the people in need get no money at all, and the admin workers are on the dole.

Which do you think is the better option?

You're an effing whack job mate

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Re: Beyond Blue a Joke?
Reply #16 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 1:48pm

cods wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

we find out though.... it isnt up front.....

we expect admin costs...

if you think 90% admin is ok.. good for you..

but shouldnt you be aware of that before you donate..

what is the difference when they hire people to collect from shopping centres under the guise of charity when the biggest charity is themselves????>..

I do not like those odds..

Greggy doesn't: no one does!

So why say it?

Because Greggy is a whack job, that's why: always has been and always will be

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Re: Beyond Blue a Joke?
Reply #17 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 1:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 12:45pm:

cods wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 12:35pm:

we find out though.... it isnt up front.....

we expect admin costs... if you think 90% admin is ok.. good for you..

but shouldnt you be aware of that before you donate..

what is the difference when they hire people to collect from shopping centres under the guise of charity when the biggest charity is themselves????>..

I do not like those odds..

Like I say, the alternative is the tin shakers are on the dole, and the people in need get no money at all.

Maybe they could put a note on their tins (or t-shirts): "80 cents out of every dollar you donate goes to where it's needed most".

*** You're a friggin weid c-word ... what happened to you we all wonder

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Re: Beyond Blue a Joke?
Reply #18 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 1:54pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 1:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 12:24pm:

cods wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 12:16pm:

I also heard that Go Fund Me takes 30cents in every dollar....donated....

anyone know if thats true..

at the end of the day

these associations are meant to be helping others not themselves..

They are helping others, but there are always admin costs.

If I give $100 to a charity and $90 goes to admin, it doesn't really bother me that much.

At least some money is getting to those who need it, and the admin people in the charity office have a job.

I honestly can't see why people complain about this.

The alternative is, the people in need get no money at all, and the admin workers are on the dole.

Which do you think is the better option?

You're an effing whack job mate

It's better than the alternative.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 32098 Gender:	Re: Beyond Blue a Joke? Reply #19 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 2:00pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 11:16am: Who's in charge at the moment Gnads? So your point is? Kennett was a Lib ... as I said bi-partisan. Kate Carnell is a lib & on the board of directors. She was also head of the Australian Business Council(A Union of Employers).
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Re: Beyond Blue a Joke?
Reply #20 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 2:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 11:23am:

Gnads wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 10:59am:

I found this post on another forum compiled by an ordinary Joe I believe.

Has anyone else heard similar stories about this govt. funded charity that seems to line Pollies & bureaucrats pockets instead of doing what it's supposed to for Mental Health Services?

I might say that one of the more recent CEO's Jeff Kennett is hardly a Labor pollie so it seems it's bi-partisan.

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Beyond A Joke?

“Beyond Blue has gone from receiving from taxpayers $3million per year in 2001 to now receiving $36 million per year.
During that time wages went from $500k to $10 million.
Beyond Blue is a giant slush fund where wage costs have increased 2000% during a time when taxpayer funded revenue has increased 1200%.
The board is stacked with bureaucrats, Labor Politicians and tenured academics.
The Annual Report no longer discloses Board Remunerations.
This is just another charity where non-taxpayer funded donations do not cover the costs of administration.
People donated $11million in 2016 which barely paid wages.
Effectively it is just another taxpayer funded health service that is run inefficiently, and has a board with government connections for requesting more funding.”

Jeff Kennett is the Chairman.

Georgie Harman is the CEO

Oh, and Juliar Gillard is the Chair on the Board of Directors.

What makes you say Beyond Blue is not doing what it's supposed to do?

How can it do what's it's supposed to do if nearly all the capital is spent paying wages for the executives?

And with $1 million dollars what can they actually do for someone today?

Refer them to Lifeline? Roll Eyes

What a waste of money & an unnecessary drain on taxpayer funds.

That money should be directly injected into mental health services.

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Re: Beyond Blue a Joke?
Reply #21 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 2:21pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 2:00pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 11:16am:

Who's in charge at the moment Gnads?

So your point is?

Kennett was a Lib ... as I said bi-partisan.

Kate Carnell is a lib & on the board of directors. She was also head of the Australian Business Council(A Union of Employers).

my POINT was...

is that I thought he stepped down...

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Re: Beyond Blue a Joke?
Reply #22 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 2:24pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 11:23am:

Gnads wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 10:59am:

I found this post on another forum compiled by an ordinary Joe I believe.

Has anyone else heard similar stories about this govt. funded charity that seems to line Pollies & bureaucrats pockets instead of doing what it's supposed to for Mental Health Services?

I might say that one of the more recent CEO's Jeff Kennett is hardly a Labor pollie so it seems it's bi-partisan.

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Beyond A Joke?

“Beyond Blue has gone from receiving from taxpayers $3million per year in 2001 to now receiving $36 million per year.
During that time wages went from $500k to $10 million.
Beyond Blue is a giant slush fund where wage costs have increased 2000% during a time when taxpayer funded revenue has increased 1200%.
The board is stacked with bureaucrats, Labor Politicians and tenured academics.
The Annual Report no longer discloses Board Remunerations.
This is just another charity where non-taxpayer funded donations do not cover the costs of administration.
People donated $11million in 2016 which barely paid wages.
Effectively it is just another taxpayer funded health service that is run inefficiently, and has a board with government connections for requesting more funding.”

Jeff Kennett is the Chairman.

Georgie Harman is the CEO

Oh, and Juliar Gillard is the Chair on the Board of Directors.

What makes you say Beyond Blue is not doing what it's supposed to do?

How can it do what's it's supposed to do if nearly all the capital is spent paying wages for the executives?

And with $1 million dollars what can they actually do for someone today?

Refer them to Lifeline? Roll Eyes

What a waste of money & an unnecessary drain on taxpayer funds.

That money should be directly injected into mental health services.

yes Gnads is 100% right...

10.5 Million is going to those leaches...

they made an 8 Million dollar loss one year

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Re: Beyond Blue a Joke?
Reply #24 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 2:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 1:54pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 1:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 12:24pm:

cods wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 12:16pm:

I also heard that Go Fund Me takes 30cents in every dollar....donated....

anyone know if thats true..

at the end of the day

these associations are meant to be helping others not themselves..

They are helping others, but there are always admin costs.

If I give $100 to a charity and $90 goes to admin, it doesn't really bother me that much.

At least some money is getting to those who need it, and the admin people in the charity office have a job.

I honestly can't see why people complain about this.

The alternative is, the people in need get no money at all, and the admin workers are on the dole.

Which do you think is the better option?

You're an effing whack job mate

It's better than the alternative.

You're just one of those dumb ones that keep talkin until something happens!

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Re: Beyond Blue a Joke?
Reply #26 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 4:51pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 11:23am:

Gnads wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 10:59am:

I found this post on another forum compiled by an ordinary Joe I believe.

Has anyone else heard similar stories about this govt. funded charity that seems to line Pollies & bureaucrats pockets instead of doing what it's supposed to for Mental Health Services?

I might say that one of the more recent CEO's Jeff Kennett is hardly a Labor pollie so it seems it's bi-partisan.

Quote:

Beyond A Joke?

“Beyond Blue has gone from receiving from taxpayers $3million per year in 2001 to now receiving $36 million per year.
During that time wages went from $500k to $10 million.
Beyond Blue is a giant slush fund where wage costs have increased 2000% during a time when taxpayer funded revenue has increased 1200%.
The board is stacked with bureaucrats, Labor Politicians and tenured academics.
The Annual Report no longer discloses Board Remunerations.
This is just another charity where non-taxpayer funded donations do not cover the costs of administration.
People donated $11million in 2016 which barely paid wages.
Effectively it is just another taxpayer funded health service that is run inefficiently, and has a board with government connections for requesting more funding.”

Jeff Kennett is the Chairman.

Georgie Harman is the CEO

Oh, and Juliar Gillard is the Chair on the Board of Directors.

What makes you say Beyond Blue is not doing what it's supposed to do?

How can it do what's it's supposed to do if nearly all the capital is spent paying wages for the executives?

Where did you read that?

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Reply #27 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 6:20pm

Did you read what was posted?

If donations amount to $11 million & wages are $10 or 10.5 million what's the point?

Whatever else is garnered from taxpayers goes where?

My sister was suffering from mental health issues after a messy divorce .... she rang Beyond Blue several times .... got an answering service that gave her Life Lines number.

That is not good enough .... & she has not been the only one who that has happened to.

So where's the other taxpayer money going to?

It's not supplying services......

So why not give that money to LifeLine & cut out the middleman who just seems to be getting paid to broker work to other agencies that aren't beneficiaries of taxpayer monies.

Seeings your so adamant in refuting any truth in the claim how about you tell me where all that money goes?

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Re: Beyond Blue a Joke?
Reply #29 - Mar 29^th, 2018 at 6:29pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 6:20pm:

Did you read what was posted?

If donations amount to $11 million & wages are $10 or 10.5 million what's the point?

Whatever else is garnered from taxpayers goes where?

My sister was suffering from mental health issues after a messy divorce .... she rang Beyond Blue several times .... got an answering service that gave her Life Lines number.

That is not good enough .... & she has not been the only one who that has happened to.

So where's the other taxpayer money going to?

It's not supplying services......

So why not give that money to LifeLine & cut out the middleman who just seems to be getting paid to broker work to other agencies that aren't beneficiaries of taxpayer monies.

Seeings your so adamant in refuting any truth in the claim how about you tell me where all that money goes?

"How can it do what's it's supposed to do if nearly all the capital is spent paying wages for the executives?"

Where did you read that?

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