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Dangerous Dogs
Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:11pm

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-consider-penalty-against-grand...

So a grandma has a vicious Rotty that needs to be tied up ?
Why ?

Dogs are not native to Australia so for sure we could easily ban certain breeds. Any dog bred for fighting should be banded from the general public. I would allow scope for killer dogs in policing and security.

Why parents think big vicious dogs and kids are a good mix is beyond me.

Maybe they need the laws to be changed so people like her in the future can be done for manslaughter !

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Re: Dangerous Dogs
Reply #1 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:14pm

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:11pm:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-consider-penalty-against-grand...

So a grandma has a vicious Rotty that needs to be tied up ?
Why ?

Dogs are not native to Australia so for sure we could easily ban certain breeds. Any dog bred for fighting should be banded from the general public. I would allow scope for killer dogs in policing and security.

Why parents think big vicious dogs and kids are a good mix is beyond me.

Maybe they need the laws to be changed so people like her in the future can be done for manslaughter !

Killer dogs in policing? Erk!

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16282 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Dangerous Dogs Reply #2 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:32pm Another thread on muzzos and africans............. Oh, you mean the other dangerous dogs? I believe that a dogs temperament depends on how one treats it. All dogs are loyal and nonjudgemental Treat them with love and you get love back.
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Re: Dangerous Dogs
Reply #4 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:13pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:14pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:11pm:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-consider-penalty-against-grand...

So a grandma has a vicious Rotty that needs to be tied up ?
Why ?

Dogs are not native to Australia so for sure we could easily ban certain breeds. Any dog bred for fighting should be banded from the general public. I would allow scope for killer dogs in policing and security.

Why parents think big vicious dogs and kids are a good mix is beyond me.

Maybe they need the laws to be changed so people like her in the future can be done for manslaughter !

Killer dogs in policing? Erk!

Spot

From what I have seen they are highly trained and only attack on command
Its very funny watch these petty crims suddenly become compliant when the dogs come out on cop shows.

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Re: Dangerous Dogs
Reply #5 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:17pm

Valkie wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:32pm:

Another thread on muzzos and africans.............

Oh, you mean the other dangerous dogs?

I believe that a dogs temperament depends on how one treats it.

All dogs are loyal and nonjudgemental

Treat them with love and you get love back.

Agree to a point but certain breeds can be banned from the public purely on capability and reputation of the breed such as pit dogs ...... they are not much use in policing or security either.

FYI this case the dog was known to be aggressive this is not such a case, but even a well behaved dog can snap.

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Reply #6 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:26pm

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:11pm:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-consider-penalty-against-grand...

So a grandma has a vicious Rotty that needs to be tied up ?
Why ?

Dogs are not native to Australia so for sure we could easily ban certain breeds. Any dog bred for fighting should be banded from the general public. I would allow scope for killer dogs in policing and security.

Why parents think big vicious dogs and kids are a good mix is beyond me.

Maybe they need the laws to be changed so people like her in the future can be done for manslaughter !

The whole problem is not the dog or the dog breed ..... it's irresponsible owners.

No dogs in Australia are "bred" to fight.

Some are better suited for that but any breed of dog can be conditioned to fight.

And that's what happens .... unscrupulous & irresponsible owners condition dogs to do that.

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10 Meanest Dog Breeds

Breed

1. Chihuahua

2. Dachshund

3. Chow Chow

4. Doberman Pinscher

5. Dalmatian

6. Rottweiler

7. Jack Russell Terrier

8. German Shepherd

9. American Staffordshire/ Pit Bull Terrier

10.Siberian Husky

Sorted by most aggressive to least aggressive based on percentages by the American Temperament Test Society (ATTS)

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Australia has an estimated dog population of 3,400,000 and an average of 1.1 fatalities per year (33 over the last 30 years), equating to one death per 3,090,909 dogs.

Breeds involved: Rottweiler (4), Siberian Husky (1), Cattle Dog (1), Rottweiler X German Shepherd (1), Dingo X Labrador (1), Pit Bull X Mastiff (1), Great Dane X Mastiff (1), Great Dane X Bull Terrier (1), Medium size mixed breed (3), Large mixed breed (3) and Giant Mixed Breed (11) including Greyhounds, Mastiffs and Irish Wolfhounds.

http://www.dogforum.com.au/showthread.php?t=8799

Don't ban breeds ban irresponsible owners.

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Re: Dangerous Dogs
Reply #7 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:30pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:26pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:11pm:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-consider-penalty-against-grand...

So a grandma has a vicious Rotty that needs to be tied up ?
Why ?

Dogs are not native to Australia so for sure we could easily ban certain breeds. Any dog bred for fighting should be banded from the general public. I would allow scope for killer dogs in policing and security.

Why parents think big vicious dogs and kids are a good mix is beyond me.

Maybe they need the laws to be changed so people like her in the future can be done for manslaughter !

The whole problem is not the dog or the dog breed ..... it's irresponsible owners.

No dogs in Australia are "bred" to fight.

Some are better suited for that but any breed of dog can be conditioned to fight.

And that's what happens .... unscrupulous & irresponsible owners condition dogs to do that.

Quote:

10 Meanest Dog Breeds

Breed

1. Chihuahua

2. Dachshund

3. Chow Chow

4. Doberman Pinscher

5. Dalmatian

6. Rottweiler

7. Jack Russell Terrier

8. German Shepherd

9. American Staffordshire/ Pit Bull Terrier

10.Siberian Husky

Sorted by most aggressive to least aggressive based on percentages by the American Temperament Test Society (ATTS)

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Australia has an estimated dog population of 3,400,000 and an average of 1.1 fatalities per year (33 over the last 30 years), equating to one death per 3,090,909 dogs.

Breeds involved: Rottweiler (4), Siberian Husky (1), Cattle Dog (1), Rottweiler X German Shepherd (1), Dingo X Labrador (1), Pit Bull X Mastiff (1), Great Dane X Mastiff (1), Great Dane X Bull Terrier (1), Medium size mixed breed (3), Large mixed breed (3) and Giant Mixed Breed (11) including Greyhounds, Mastiffs and Irish Wolfhounds.

http://www.dogforum.com.au/showthread.php?t=8799

Don't ban breeds ban irresponsible owners.

No ban both

Yes we have dogs bred and continue to be bred for pit fighting not sure where your pure as the white snow theory comes from. As I said dogs are not native so they do not need to exist here.

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Re: Dangerous Dogs
Reply #8 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:40pm

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:14pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:11pm:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-consider-penalty-against-grand...

So a grandma has a vicious Rotty that needs to be tied up ?
Why ?

Dogs are not native to Australia so for sure we could easily ban certain breeds. Any dog bred for fighting should be banded from the general public. I would allow scope for killer dogs in policing and security.

Why parents think big vicious dogs and kids are a good mix is beyond me.

Maybe they need the laws to be changed so people like her in the future can be done for manslaughter !

Killer dogs in policing? Erk!

Spot

From what I have seen they are highly trained and only attack on command
Its very funny watch these petty crims suddenly become compliant when the dogs come out on cop shows.

Until some innocent bystander has a steak in their pocket

Spot

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Re: Dangerous Dogs
Reply #9 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:47pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:40pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:14pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:11pm:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-consider-penalty-against-grand...

So a grandma has a vicious Rotty that needs to be tied up ?
Why ?

Dogs are not native to Australia so for sure we could easily ban certain breeds. Any dog bred for fighting should be banded from the general public. I would allow scope for killer dogs in policing and security.

Why parents think big vicious dogs and kids are a good mix is beyond me.

Maybe they need the laws to be changed so people like her in the future can be done for manslaughter !

Killer dogs in policing? Erk!

Spot

From what I have seen they are highly trained and only attack on command
Its very funny watch these petty crims suddenly become compliant when the dogs come out on cop shows.

Until some innocent bystander has a steak in their pocket

Spot

Is that what you do to hit on women at a night club ?

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Re: Dangerous Dogs
Reply #10 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:48pm

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:30pm:

Gnads wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:26pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:11pm:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-consider-penalty-against-grand...

So a grandma has a vicious Rotty that needs to be tied up ?
Why ?

Dogs are not native to Australia so for sure we could easily ban certain breeds. Any dog bred for fighting should be banded from the general public. I would allow scope for killer dogs in policing and security.

Why parents think big vicious dogs and kids are a good mix is beyond me.

Maybe they need the laws to be changed so people like her in the future can be done for manslaughter !

The whole problem is not the dog or the dog breed ..... it's irresponsible owners.

No dogs in Australia are "bred" to fight.

Some are better suited for that but any breed of dog can be conditioned to fight.

And that's what happens .... unscrupulous & irresponsible owners condition dogs to do that.

Quote:

10 Meanest Dog Breeds

Breed

1. Chihuahua

2. Dachshund

3. Chow Chow

4. Doberman Pinscher

5. Dalmatian

6. Rottweiler

7. Jack Russell Terrier

8. German Shepherd

9. American Staffordshire/ Pit Bull Terrier

10.Siberian Husky

Sorted by most aggressive to least aggressive based on percentages by the American Temperament Test Society (ATTS)

Quote:

Australia has an estimated dog population of 3,400,000 and an average of 1.1 fatalities per year (33 over the last 30 years), equating to one death per 3,090,909 dogs.

Breeds involved: Rottweiler (4), Siberian Husky (1), Cattle Dog (1), Rottweiler X German Shepherd (1), Dingo X Labrador (1), Pit Bull X Mastiff (1), Great Dane X Mastiff (1), Great Dane X Bull Terrier (1), Medium size mixed breed (3), Large mixed breed (3) and Giant Mixed Breed (11) including Greyhounds, Mastiffs and Irish Wolfhounds.

http://www.dogforum.com.au/showthread.php?t=8799

Don't ban breeds ban irresponsible owners.

No ban both

Yes we have dogs bred and continue to be bred for pit fighting not sure where your pure as the white snow theory comes from. As I said dogs are not native so they do not need to exist here.

If you want to follow that through to a lefties view .... neither are you or should you exist in Australia.

Is that fair?

I'd say not ..... & the Aboriginals brought Dingoes here.

I didn't say that unscrupulous people don't breed dogs for fighting ....... but you show me where you can ever see evidence of it going on?

I'm saying the dogs have to be conditioned to it.....

many of the breeds of dogs they use are better built for it ..... but that doesn't make those dogs dangerous from birth.

People do that.

And if you noticed on those Australian stats .... Rottweilers have killed more people in Australia.... than any Pitbull.

Most fighting dogs are xbreeds anyway.

And my theory as you call it ... has SFA to do with anything pure as white snow.

More children are savaged & bitten in the face by little house bound woolly woofters like Chihuahuas, /King Charles spaniel/Shitzu/Pekinese/minature poodle crosses than any big dogs.

Cattle Dogs, Border Collies,Fox Terriers & Jack Russells are all known biters.

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Re: Dangerous Dogs
Reply #11 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:49pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:26pm:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 12:11pm:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-consider-penalty-against-grand...

So a grandma has a vicious Rotty that needs to be tied up ?
Why ?

Dogs are not native to Australia so for sure we could easily ban certain breeds. Any dog bred for fighting should be banded from the general public. I would allow scope for killer dogs in policing and security.

Why parents think big vicious dogs and kids are a good mix is beyond me.

Maybe they need the laws to be changed so people like her in the future can be done for manslaughter !

The whole problem is not the dog or the dog breed ..... it's irresponsible owners.

No dogs in Australia are "bred" to fight.

Some are better suited for that but any breed of dog can be conditioned to fight.

And that's what happens .... unscrupulous & irresponsible owners condition dogs to do that.

Quote:

10 Meanest Dog Breeds

Breed

1. Chihuahua

2. Dachshund

3. Chow Chow

4. Doberman Pinscher

5. Dalmatian

6. Rottweiler

7. Jack Russell Terrier

8. German Shepherd

9. American Staffordshire/ Pit Bull Terrier

10.Siberian Husky

Sorted by most aggressive to least aggressive based on percentages by the American Temperament Test Society (ATTS)

Quote:

Australia has an estimated dog population of 3,400,000 and an average of 1.1 fatalities per year (33 over the last 30 years), equating to one death per 3,090,909 dogs.

Breeds involved: Rottweiler (4), Siberian Husky (1), Cattle Dog (1), Rottweiler X German Shepherd (1), Dingo X Labrador (1), Pit Bull X Mastiff (1), Great Dane X Mastiff (1), Great Dane X Bull Terrier (1), Medium size mixed breed (3), Large mixed breed (3) and Giant Mixed Breed (11) including Greyhounds, Mastiffs and Irish Wolfhounds.

http://www.dogforum.com.au/showthread.php?t=8799

Don't ban breeds ban irresponsible owners.

Yeah but will the result of a 10 second attack on a toddler by a Chihuahua be different from a pittbull?

Some dogs are more dangerous than others.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33722 Gender:	Re: Dangerous Dogs Reply #12 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:54pm Any big dog has the capacity to do more damage than a Chihuahua ..... so? Dogs are made dangerous by the owners. Irresponsible owners & irresponsible parents don't leave young children alone with big dogs or little savage dogs. Cats have been known to suffocate infants. Ban cats?
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Reply #13 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 3:01pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:54pm:

Any big dog has the capacity to do more damage than a Chihuahua ..... so?

Dogs are made dangerous by the owners.

Irresponsible owners & irresponsible parents

don't leave young children alone with big dogs

or little savage dogs.

Cats have been known to suffocate infants.

Ban cats?

You know sfa about dogs. Small dogs will bite something in their proximity, they won't go into attack mode and hunt something down.

When's the last time a Chihuahua jumped a fence and ripped a toddlers throat out?

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Reply #14 - Mar 11^th, 2018 at 4:29pm

Gnads wrote on Mar 11^th, 2018 at 2:54pm:

Any big dog has the capacity to do more damage than a Chihuahua ..... so?

Dogs are made dangerous by the owners.

Irresponsible owners & irresponsible parents

don't leave young children alone with big dogs

I really don't care whose "fault" it is. Casting blame won't save some kid from getting mauled by a large dog.

The fact is that large dogs are dangerous and have no place in an urban environment.

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