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Mar 5th, 2018 at 8:14pm
 
Housing report says migration may need to be cut to preserve quality of life
Grattan Institute says population policy needed that will set ‘appropriate’ level of migration

One of Australia’s most respected thinktanks has weighed into the population growth debate, saying the federal government needs to develop an explicit population policy that defines the “appropriate” level of migration, and it may need to reduce the migrant intake to improve wellbeing.

The Grattan Institute says it is wading into the debate cautiously and it has deliberately not identified an optimum level of migration.

But it says the Turnbull government needs to take seriously the degree to which major cities, particularly Sydney and Melbourne, are struggling to cope with high population growth.


It says if state governments continue to fail to increase the supply of housing and infrastructure necessary to keep pace with rapid population growth, then the federal government may have to reduce the migrant intake so the quality of life of residents in New South Wales and Victoria – and other states – does not get worse.
The Grattan Institute’s recommendation can be found in a new research report on housing affordability, Re-imagining the Australian Dream, which was released on Sunday evening.

The 177-page report contains 13 policy recommendations the institute says will improve housing affordability in Australia

It comes two weeks after the former prime minister Tony Abbott reignited debate about Australia’s population growth by calling for the permanent migration intake to be slashed by 80,000 places a year, from 190,000 to 110,000.

Abbott had seized on comments from the home affairs minister, Peter Dutton, who told 2GB Radio in mid-February that it was a “perfectly legitimate argument” that Australia’s cities were “overcrowded”, including “gridlocked traffic in the mornings”, and that the government would review the migration intake if it was in the national interest.

Abbott used Dutton’s comments as a springboard to say that, despite concerns about housing affordability, “no one on the frontbench of government or ­opposition had been prepared to raise the one big contributing factor that is wholly and solely within the federal government’s control”.

But Abbott’s senior Coalition colleagues criticised his foray, including past and present immigration ministers, the acting prime minister and the trade minister.

Dutton clarified that his comment in mid-February “wasn’t a departure from what I’ve said previously” and that the Turnbull government “has got the settings right”.

John Daley from the Grattan Institute told Guardian Australia he was very conscious of the politics surrounding population growth and he did not want to be seen to be calling for the migrant intake to be cut.

He said his priority was housing affordability, the causes of high house prices and Australians’ living standards.

He said federal and state governments had numerous policy levers available to them to make houses more affordable, including limiting negative gearing, slashing the capital gains discount from 50% to 25%, changing the age pension assets test to include the value of a home above a certain threshold (such as $500,000), extending state land taxes to owner occupied housing, and setting housing targets at a state level and making sure local governments meet them.

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Reply #1 - Mar 5th, 2018 at 11:38pm
 
I would like to see a migration cut. Give me a chance to get a better job. And no, I would not want to move out to farms to work as a farm hand.
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Reply #2 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 6:17am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 5th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
I would like to see a migration cut. Give me a chance to get a better job. And no, I would not want to move out to farms to work as a farm hand.


Either that or we increase productivity or both.

This topic amuses me all the time as the lefties always mouse trap themselves with their rabid ideology.
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Reply #3 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm
 
Just about everything I like about Australia is linked to the low population. Hard to put a value on, but it is real. I think the Chinese would agree.
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Reply #4 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 4:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Just about everything I like about Australia is linked to the low population. Hard to put a value on, but it is real. I think the Chinese would agree.


For its land area Australia 50 million would be a low population.

There are other factors but for sure we have a good capacity for growth.
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Reply #5 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 4:57pm
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 4:45pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Just about everything I like about Australia is linked to the low population. Hard to put a value on, but it is real. I think the Chinese would agree.


For its land area Australia 50 million would be a low population.

There are other factors but for sure we have a good capacity for growth.


If all that land was usable other than to graze one cow per acre.... which it's not.

As many times before - I think the issues are with our immigration mix rather than numbers. 

Politicians are playing the divide and conquer game and are not looking to the long term best benefit of this nation as a whole, and are preferring to remain stuck in the Third World Banana Republic mode and cementing that by removing more and more rights and opportunities from the majority of the people, through industrial relations bullying and chopping away at basic pay and conditions, so as to lead us to a classical Third World nation with the privileged few at the top and the rest tenants in their own jobs and homes and glad to receive a rental on the laird's property in return for servitude at his whim.
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Reply #6 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 4:57pm
 
RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 6:17am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 5th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
I would like to see a migration cut. Give me a chance to get a better job. And no, I would not want to move out to farms to work as a farm hand.


Either that or we increase productivity or both.

This topic amuses me all the time as the lefties always mouse trap themselves with their rabid ideology.


How so?
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Reply #7 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 6:06pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 4:57pm:
RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 6:17am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 5th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
I would like to see a migration cut. Give me a chance to get a better job. And no, I would not want to move out to farms to work as a farm hand.


Either that or we increase productivity or both.

This topic amuses me all the time as the lefties always mouse trap themselves with their rabid ideology.


How so?


Lefties like letting everyone one in the country then complain about house prices ... there are many more they are an endless source of Hypocrisy.
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Reply #8 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 6:29pm
 
Another population thread. Fellas, until someone can solve the ageing population problem, suck it up.
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Reply #9 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 6:35pm
 
The 'elephant in the room' is paranoia about being accused of racism.

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Reply #10 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 7:16pm
 
crocodile wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
Another population thread. Fellas, until someone can solve the ageing population problem, suck it up.


If growing the population is the cure, it's one that will kill the patient.
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Reply #11 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 7:18pm
 
Gordon wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 7:16pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
Another population thread. Fellas, until someone can solve the ageing population problem, suck it up.


If growing the population is the cure, it's one that will kill the patient.


It's OK to say that. But still no solution I see.
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Reply #12 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 7:22pm
 
crocodile wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 7:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 7:16pm:
crocodile wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
Another population thread. Fellas, until someone can solve the ageing population problem, suck it up.


If growing the population is the cure, it's one that will kill the patient.


It's OK to say that. But still no solution I see.


Do you live ib sydney?  Do you have any idea how quickly the livability of the place is deteriorating?
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Reply #13 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 7:27pm
 
People are still flocking to it, so it must have something going for it.
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Reply #14 - Mar 6th, 2018 at 7:31pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 6th, 2018 at 7:27pm:
People are still flocking to it, so it must have something going for it.


Yes. People from Delhi find it less crowded.
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