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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten Reply #15 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 4:33pm Everyone should speak up when someone is doing something wrong. Regardless.
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten Reply #16 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 5:34pm No sh.t Aussie..Shorten not giving lectures..No bloody wonder with his amoral track record!!!
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Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten
Reply #17 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 5:40pm

red baron wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 5:34pm:

No sh.t Aussie..Shorten not giving lectures..No bloody wonder with his amoral track record!!!

No matter his record. Fact is, and contrary to what Matty claimed in the OP....it is not Shorten giving lectures on morals.

PS...go read your PMs for more details.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten Reply #18 - Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 5:42pm Damned straight he ain't!
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Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten
Reply #19 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:40am

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:57am:

Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong. The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.
Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.
To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error.

A better strategy would be to leak it through the media but they might know about it anyway.

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Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten
Reply #20 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:44am

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 4:33pm:

Everyone should speak up when someone is doing something wrong. Regardless.

Depends on what your talking about with Joyce the only issue I see is creating jobs for your mistress, I assume this happens every where not just politics..... Joyce has paid a big price for it.
As for Shorten all I see is is staff doing what staff often do.

Shorten has done far worse than this in taking union kick backs to sell out worker rights and forgetting political donations.

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Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten
Reply #21 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:51am

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:40am:

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:57am:

Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong. The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.
Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.
To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error.

A better strategy would be to leak it through the media but they might know about it anyway.

Leak what Fred....Do you really think if News Ltd knew anything about Bill Shorten's young female staff members they would not publish it in a flash....Lets not forget the rumours Cash claimed were circulating Parliament house were about young female staff members in Mr Shorten's office....Despite the fact nobody in the media or Parliament from either side knows what the f@#k she is talking about....Cash should resign in disgrace unless she can substantiate her slanderous claims against these young woman who are not politicians and are entitled to be vindicated against slander from an inept Minister hiding behind Parliamentary privilege???

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Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten
Reply #22 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:53am

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:44am:

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 4:33pm:

Everyone should speak up when someone is doing something wrong. Regardless.

Depends on what your talking about with Joyce the only issue I see is creating jobs for your mistress, I assume this happens every where not just politics..... Joyce has paid a big price for it.
As for Shorten all I see is is staff doing what staff often do.

Shorten has done far worse than this in taking union kick backs to sell out worker rights and forgetting political donations.

Off topic bullshit that are not supported by any prosecutions or misconduct findings despite the ROC dedicating all it's time to bringing down Bill Shorten....Feel free to post links to facts and not rumours mate!!!

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Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten
Reply #23 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:54am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:51am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:40am:

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:57am:

Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong. The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.
Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.
To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error.

A better strategy would be to leak it through the media but they might know about it anyway.

Leak what Fred....Do you really think if News Ltd knew anything about Bill Shorten's young female staff members they would not publish it in a flash....Lets not forget the rumours Cash claimed were circulating Parliament house were about young female staff members in Mr Shorten's office....Despite the fact nobody in the media or Parliament from either side knows what the f@#k she is talking about....Cash should resign in disgrace unless she can substantiate her slanderous claims against these young woman who are not politicians and are entitled to be vindicated against slander from an inept Minister hiding behind Parliamentary privilege???

Angry

I see your not much of a strategist like Cash, no idea what News knows they often hold back on this stuff for similar reason but given your style it looks beyond your comprehension.

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Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten
Reply #24 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:56am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:53am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:44am:

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 4:33pm:

Everyone should speak up when someone is doing something wrong. Regardless.

Depends on what your talking about with Joyce the only issue I see is creating jobs for your mistress, I assume this happens every where not just politics..... Joyce has paid a big price for it.
As for Shorten all I see is is staff doing what staff often do.

Shorten has done far worse than this in taking union kick backs to sell out worker rights and forgetting political donations.

Off topic bullshit that are not supported by any prosecutions or misconduct findings despite the ROC dedicating all it's time to bringing down Bill Shorten....Feel free to post links to facts and not rumours mate!!!

Roll Eyes

Its very relevant as in this case it appears BS has done nothing compared to his normal bad form but if you think there is more to it please enlighten us

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stunspore Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5097 Gender:	Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten Reply #25 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:56am Since we got politicians who were lawyers making claims of bullying - they should report and have it prosecuted. There's anti-bullying laws after all. If they won't. they know they can't because it wasn't bullying and no leg to stand on.
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Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten
Reply #26 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 10:43am

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:51am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:40am:

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:57am:

Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong. The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.
Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.
To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error.

A better strategy would be to leak it through the media but they might know about it anyway.

Leak what Fred....Do you really think if News Ltd knew anything about Bill Shorten's young female staff members they would not publish it in a flash....Lets not forget the rumours Cash claimed were circulating Parliament house were about young female staff members in Mr Shorten's office....Despite the fact nobody in the media or Parliament from either side knows what the f@#k she is talking about....Cash should resign in disgrace unless she can substantiate her slanderous claims against these young woman who are not politicians and are entitled to be vindicated against slander from an inept Minister hiding behind Parliamentary privilege???

Angry

I see your not much of a strategist like Cash, no idea what News knows they often hold back on this stuff for similar reason but given your style it looks beyond your comprehension.

Maybe I lack your sense of imagination were you can believe anything despite having nothing to back up your bullshit....Using your analogy you can make any claims you want without supporting evidence and just claim it is a cover up???

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Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten
Reply #27 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 10:44am

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:56am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:53am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:44am:

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 4:33pm:

Everyone should speak up when someone is doing something wrong. Regardless.

Depends on what your talking about with Joyce the only issue I see is creating jobs for your mistress, I assume this happens every where not just politics..... Joyce has paid a big price for it.
As for Shorten all I see is is staff doing what staff often do.

Shorten has done far worse than this in taking union kick backs to sell out worker rights and forgetting political donations.

Off topic bullshit that are not supported by any prosecutions or misconduct findings despite the ROC dedicating all it's time to bringing down Bill Shorten....Feel free to post links to facts and not rumours mate!!!

Roll Eyes

Its very relevant as in this case it appears BS has done nothing compared to his normal bad form but if you think there is more to it please enlighten us

Not up to me to prove your bullshit mate....Put up or shut up!!!

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Re: Why should anyone take moral lectures from Shorten
Reply #28 - Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 11:56am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 10:43am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:54am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:51am:

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2018 at 8:40am:

stunspore wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2018 at 8:57am:

Regardless who gives out moral lectures, Cash was wrong. The coalition members who support her (i.e. Dutton, Turnbull) were wrong to do so.
Merely because one isn't an upstanding stalwart model of goodness doesn't mean they can't make a comment on the big mistake you've just made.
To the average voter it would look like weaseling out of an error.

A better strategy would be to leak it through the media but they might know about it anyway.

Leak what Fred....Do you really think if News Ltd knew anything about Bill Shorten's young female staff members they would not publish it in a flash....Lets not forget the rumours Cash claimed were circulating Parliament house were about young female staff members in Mr Shorten's office....Despite the fact nobody in the media or Parliament from either side knows what the f@#k she is talking about....Cash should resign in disgrace unless she can substantiate her slanderous claims against these young woman who are not politicians and are entitled to be vindicated against slander from an inept Minister hiding behind Parliamentary privilege???

Angry

I see your not much of a strategist like Cash, no idea what News knows they often hold back on this stuff for similar reason but given your style it looks beyond your comprehension.

Maybe I lack your sense of imagination were you can believe anything despite having nothing to back up your bullshit....Using your analogy you can make any claims you want without supporting evidence and just claim it is a cover up???

Roll Eyes

You just got knocked the duck out rsf Grin

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