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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #15 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 10:04pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
It's BS.



Do you deny that the atrocities of Islamic State have any
similarity with the Roman Catholic Inquisition?

Remember - they are both based on an extreme form of religion -
the same Abrahamic God.







You are a willingly gullible willfully gullible person, bobby.




None of the foundational ISLAMIC accounts, which seek [WHICH ARE SEEKING!] to associate the early Biblical patriarchs with ISLAM, can withstand any close scrutiny and study, by any rational and reasonable person.

They can only be found to be an utter fabrication of events, by those who created such accounts.

Are you a rational and reasonable person bobby ?




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Why does Quran claim Abraham built the Kaaba when he [Abraham] never went anywhere near Mecca?


https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Quran-claim-Abraham-built-the-Kaaba-when-he-never...





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The path of Abraham's travels - according to scripture



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THE HISTORY OF MECCA    |   home
THE HISTORY OF MECCA   |   GEOGRAPHY OF MECCA - ISLAM



Please note the location of the wilderness of Beersheba (28 miles south of Hebron) on the map above. More on this link.

Now let's consider what springs from Islamic so-called "tradition" on the matter: "Abraham took Hagar and her son, Ishmael to a place near the Kabah; he left them under a tree at the site of Zamzam. No one lived in Makkah back then, yet Abraham made them sit there, leaving them with some dates, and a small water-skin. Thereafter he set out towards home."

So Muhammad's followers are taught to believe that the "well of water" referenced in verse 19 above, is the well of Zamzam in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. That would mean that between verse 14 when they were sent away and 15 when the bottle of water Abraham gave them ran out, rather than wandering 28 miles as scripture records, Hagar and Ishmael would have had to travel across more than 1,400 kilometers (or 886 miles) of largely harsh, uncharted, unknown, untraveled waterless desert wasteland, from Hebron to Mecca, over a thousand years before the first caravan route was established along the Red Sea in Arabia.

Then if Abraham were included (contrary to scripture), he is supposed to have abandoned Hagar and Ishmael under a tree in an uninhabitated desert place that eventually became Mecca, with no other inhabitants and thus no farming, pasture, or food except some dates he left them with, and no water except that in a small water-skin he gave them - and thus obviously no chance for survival - and then after abandoning them in a vacant Arabian desert place is supposed to have simply "set out" on his 1,400 kilometer wander back home!

Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
Yet in order to address the insurmountable geographical and demographic impossibility, Islam's 7th to 10th century A.D. "tradition" creators suggested the preposterous notion that Abraham regularly commuted back and forth between the Holy Land and Mecca, on a flying donkey-mule or Buraq. The idea was originated by Ibn Ishak as per Tarikh al-Tabari, I, page 165



.....we find that while other ancient Arabian towns are well attested in the historical and archaeological records, Mecca is conspicuously absent from those records.

This is because there is no evidence whatsoever that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD when Yemeni pagans migrated to, and settled, the area.

http://www.historyofmecca.com/geography_mecca_islam.htm



1 Thessalonians 5:21
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22  Abstain from all appearance of evil.


Deceit and lies, is EVIL bobby.

The blatant evil and obtuse ignorance, which Brian chooses to spread, and to say in this forum, is up to Brian.

But why won't you abstain from spreading such evil bobby ?


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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #16 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 10:29pm
 
Brian do you blame Christianity for old world diseases?
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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #17 - Feb 16th, 2018 at 11:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 7:34pm:
Brian do you ever feel a sense of shame or embarrassment about the things you post? If so, you you blame it all on other people?

Do you think you have some kind of right to post incredibly stupid things here, without people pointing out to you how stupid they are?


The adults are talking.
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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #18 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:51am
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
It's BS.



Do you deny that the atrocities of Islamic State have any
similarity with the Roman Catholic Inquisition?

Remember - they are both based on an extreme form of religion -
the same Abrahamic God.







You are a willingly gullible willfully gullible person, bobby.





Deceit and lies, is EVIL bobby.

The blatant evil and obtuse ignorance, which Brian chooses to spread, and to say in this forum, is up to Brian.

But why won't you abstain from spreading such evil bobby ?




Here's an education for you Buddy:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Abrahamic_religions

God in Abrahamic religions



Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are sometimes called Abrahamic religions because they all accept the tradition of a god, Yahweh, that revealed himself to the prophet Abraham. The theological traditions of all Abrahamic religions are thus to some extent influenced by the depiction of the God of Israel in the Hebrew Bible, and the historical development of monotheism in the history of Judaism.

The Abrahamic God in this sense is the conception of God that remains a common attribute of all three traditions. God is conceived of as eternal, omnipotent, omniscient and as the creator of the universe. God is further held to have the properties of holiness, justice, omni-benevolence and omnipresence. Proponents of Abrahamic faiths believe that God is also transcendent, meaning that he is outside space and outside time and therefore not subject to anything within his creation, but at the same time a personal God, involved, listening to prayer and reacting to the actions of his creatures.


Islam teaches that God is the same god worshipped by the members of other Abrahamic religions such as Christianity and Judaism (29:46).[18] This is not universally accepted by non-Muslims, as Islam denies the divinity of Jesus Christ as a son of God, Islam views that God does not have any offsprings or descendants, he created all things including prophets such as Jesus Christ. Most Muslims today believe that the religion of Abraham (which now split into Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) are of one source, which is The Almighty God.
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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #19 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 8:37am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:51am:
Yadda wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
It's BS.



Do you deny that the atrocities of Islamic State have any
similarity with the Roman Catholic Inquisition?

Remember - they are both based on an extreme form of religion -
the same Abrahamic God.







You are a willingly gullible willfully gullible person, bobby.





Deceit and lies, is EVIL bobby.

The blatant evil and obtuse ignorance, which Brian chooses to spread, and to say in this forum, is up to Brian.

But why won't you abstain from spreading such evil bobby ?




Here's an education for you Buddy:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Abrahamic_religions

God in Abrahamic religions



Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are sometimes called Abrahamic religions because they all accept the tradition of a god, Yahweh, that revealed himself to the prophet Abraham. The theological traditions of all Abrahamic religions are thus to some extent influenced by the depiction of the God of Israel in the Hebrew Bible, and the historical development of monotheism in the history of Judaism.

The Abrahamic God in this sense is the conception of God that remains a common attribute of all three traditions. God is conceived of as eternal, omnipotent, omniscient and as the creator of the universe. God is further held to have the properties of holiness, justice, omni-benevolence and omnipresence. Proponents of Abrahamic faiths believe that God is also transcendent, meaning that he is outside space and outside time and therefore not subject to anything within his creation, but at the same time a personal God, involved, listening to prayer and reacting to the actions of his creatures.


Islam teaches that God is the same god worshipped by the members of other Abrahamic religions such as Christianity and Judaism (29:46).[18] This is not universally accepted by non-Muslims, as Islam denies the divinity of Jesus Christ as a son of God, Islam views that God does not have any offsprings or descendants, he created all things including prophets such as Jesus Christ. Most Muslims today believe that the religion of Abraham (which now split into Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) are of one source, which is The Almighty God.




Islam teaches....

Oh well then bobby, it must be true.



ISLAM, is an Abrahamic religion.

Knowledge which has been gleaned, from the University of bobby.

The institution where proving assertions,     with evidences and reason is paramount.


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A university is an institution of higher education and research.....

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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #20 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 8:44am
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 8:37am:
Islam teaches....

Oh well then bobby, it must be true.

ISLAM, is an Abrahamic religion.

Knowledge which has been gleaned, from the University of bobby.

The institution where proving assertions,     with evidences and reason is paramount.


Quote:

A university is an institution of higher education and research.....

Wikipedia






I'm glad I taught you something Yadda.

Abraham exists in all 3 branches :
Judaism,
Christianity &
Islam.

Most of the ridiculous laws that Muslims follow come right out of the Old Testament.
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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #21 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 10:28am
 
FD, why are you lying about Christian diseases? You know full well the Christians spread Muslim diseases - Muslim because the Turks put a tax on the trade route, rendering whitey's pathogens instantly Moslem.

Correct this please. We don't want to have to start another thread on your lie.
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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #22 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 2:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Brian do you blame Christianity for old world diseases?


For some.  I do not, nor have I ever, blamed Christianity for the spread of the 'Flu, FD, despite what you have claimed.   I blame Christianity for the spread of Smallpox and Measles (both to the New World and Oceenia).   There is quite a bit of difference between Smallpox and the 'Flu, the last time I checked, FD.   Tsk, tsk.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #23 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:43pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Brian do you blame Christianity for old world diseases?


For some.  I do not, nor have I ever, blamed Christianity for the spread of the 'Flu, FD, despite what you have claimed.   I blame Christianity for the spread of Smallpox and Measles (both to the New World and Oceenia).   There is quite a bit of difference between Smallpox and the 'Flu, the last time I checked, FD.   Tsk, tsk.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Why not? FD blames the Muselman. Are you saying you have neither the right nor ability to criticise the Christian?
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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #24 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:41pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Brian do you blame Christianity for old world diseases?


For some.  I do not, nor have I ever, blamed Christianity for the spread of the 'Flu, FD, despite what you have claimed.   I blame Christianity for the spread of Smallpox and Measles (both to the New World and Oceenia).   There is quite a bit of difference between Smallpox and the 'Flu, the last time I checked, FD.   Tsk, tsk.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What other diseases is Christianity to blame for?
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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #25 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 7:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Brian do you blame Christianity for old world diseases?


For some.  I do not, nor have I ever, blamed Christianity for the spread of the 'Flu, FD, despite what you have claimed.   I blame Christianity for the spread of Smallpox and Measles (both to the New World and Oceenia).   There is quite a bit of difference between Smallpox and the 'Flu, the last time I checked, FD.   Tsk, tsk.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What other diseases is Christianity to blame for?


Hard to say, FD. What diseases is Islam to blame for?
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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #26 - Feb 17th, 2018 at 8:50pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Brian do you blame Christianity for old world diseases?


For some.  I do not, nor have I ever, blamed Christianity for the spread of the 'Flu, FD, despite what you have claimed.   I blame Christianity for the spread of Smallpox and Measles (both to the New World and Oceenia).   There is quite a bit of difference between Smallpox and the 'Flu, the last time I checked, FD.   Tsk, tsk.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What other diseases is Christianity to blame for?


Hard to say, FD. What diseases is Islam to blame for?

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Re: Christianity to blame for the flu?
Reply #27 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 2:47pm
 
We all know leftards judge the white western Christian push of hundreds / thousands  of years ago on todays social standards.

Well o.k. then, the south Americans were to blame, they never had their flu shots.
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