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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21592 Gender:	Re: Electric cars are here to stay... Reply #90 - Apr 12^th, 2018 at 4:52pm Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 12^th, 2018 at 4:17pm: so you're a troll that stands for nothing. Another jump to another really stupid conclusion.
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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: Electric cars are here to stay... Reply #91 - Apr 12^th, 2018 at 4:55pm lee wrote on Apr 12^th, 2018 at 4:52pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 12^th, 2018 at 4:17pm: so you're a troll that stands for nothing. Another jump to another really stupid conclusion. No, you're a troll that stands for nothing!
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Reply #92 - Apr 12^th, 2018 at 7:47pm

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 2:26pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 11:25am:

lee always resorts to using strawman fallacies whenever there is a discussion of renewable energy or electric cars

Let's see -

Tesla is the Manufacturer? - Yes

Tesla has reported suspension problems? - Yes

Tesla Model S up to end of 2016 have been recalled? - Yes

The reported problems are corrosion of aluminium bolts from de-icing salts? Yes

Some strawman. Grin

BTW - It was DonDeeHippy who introduced Tesla to the debate. Wink

Ohh that’s so funny the way u say that the recall is suspension related.
Its bolts that MIGHT break in cold weather from salt on the road on the power steering and if they fail will make the steering a bit heavier .
The recall has nothing to do with the suspension.....

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Reply #93 - Apr 12^th, 2018 at 7:49pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 9:36pm:

lee wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 3:17pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 11:06am:

And petrol/diesel cars don't have fault?

Nope. But generally they don't have a potential catastrophic failure. Wheels falling off is bad at highway speed.

Ohh dear it just seams u can win lee
I can send links though if u go to electric ,com search for article
Tesla Model S suspension and NDA situation: here are the facts [Updated]

It’s a little diferant to the alarmist crap u posted, the suspension was rooted and Tesla paid for half and guy went to the govt and the rest is history, funny they didn’t make Tesla have a recall on suspension after investigating.
basicaly the guy had been driving the car a lot on old dirt roads and after 120000 k something broke.

Sorry misspelt the. Web site electrek.com

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Reply #94 - Apr 12^th, 2018 at 8:10pm

lee wrote on Apr 12^th, 2018 at 4:52pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 12^th, 2018 at 4:17pm:

so you're a troll that stands for nothing.

Another jump to another really stupid conclusion. Grin

who cares what you think about electric cars. Tesla certainly doesn't and the chinese couldn't give a flying bugger either.

you live in a world of mediocrity and denial as if somehow your distorted beliefs of reality somehow matters.

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Reply #95 - Apr 12^th, 2018 at 8:12pm

Ok here is the numbers of recalls in USA from 2004. 2014 of the big 3
time com/45235/gm-recall-model-interactive/
Compared to other companies Tesla haven’t done to bad.
One broken steering arm broken and Tesla even agreed to pay half the price to fix in goodwill makes all thair cars rubbish according to Lee
Now half answer or change topic again lee hehe

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Reply #96 - Apr 12^th, 2018 at 8:12pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 12^th, 2018 at 7:47pm:

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 2:26pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 11:25am:

lee always resorts to using strawman fallacies whenever there is a discussion of renewable energy or electric cars

Let's see -

Tesla is the Manufacturer? - Yes

Tesla has reported suspension problems? - Yes

Tesla Model S up to end of 2016 have been recalled? - Yes

The reported problems are corrosion of aluminium bolts from de-icing salts? Yes

Some strawman. Grin

BTW - It was DonDeeHippy who introduced Tesla to the debate. Wink

Ohh that’s so funny the way u say that the recall is suspension related.
Its bolts that MIGHT break in cold weather from salt on the road on the power steering and if they fail will make the steering a bit heavier .
The recall has nothing to do with the suspension.....

Oh, Well. You know how the media screw stuff up. And that must be my fault not theirs. Wink

I did notice "Tesla determined it was normal because of the owner’s use – he lives on a long dirt road which put a strain on the vehicle after more than 70,000 miles."

Not because the road was rough, not because he was driving off road, but that it was a "dirt road".

Here in WA we have lots of "dirt roads"; and generally lots of rough dirt roads. It doesn’t kill cars. That is generally the killer trees that jump in front of tired drivers. They kill cars. Wink

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Reply #97 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:19am

lee wrote on Apr 12^th, 2018 at 8:12pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 12^th, 2018 at 7:47pm:

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 2:26pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 11:25am:

lee always resorts to using strawman fallacies whenever there is a discussion of renewable energy or electric cars

Let's see -

Tesla is the Manufacturer? - Yes

Tesla has reported suspension problems? - Yes

Tesla Model S up to end of 2016 have been recalled? - Yes

The reported problems are corrosion of aluminium bolts from de-icing salts? Yes

Some strawman. Grin

BTW - It was DonDeeHippy who introduced Tesla to the debate. Wink

Ohh that’s so funny the way u say that the recall is suspension related.
Its bolts that MIGHT break in cold weather from salt on the road on the power steering and if they fail will make the steering a bit heavier .
The recall has nothing to do with the suspension.....

Oh, Well. You know how the media screw stuff up. And that must be my fault not theirs. Wink

I did notice "Tesla determined it was normal because of the owner’s use – he lives on a long dirt road which put a strain on the vehicle after more than 70,000 miles."

Not because the road was rough, not because he was driving off road, but that it was a "dirt road".

Here in WA we have lots of "dirt roads"; and generally lots of rough dirt roads. It doesn’t kill cars. That is generally the killer trees that jump in front of tired drivers. They kill cars. Wink

well that's a good reason for Tesla to close its production line down isn't it Cheesy

LOL

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Reply #98 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:26am

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:19am:

well that's a good reason for Tesla to close its production line down isn't it

You really that stupid?

No; but it is a reason for Tesla, if they are to continue making cars, is to make them robust enough to drive on dirt roads. Something that other car manufacturers seem to have little problem in doing.

I haven't heard it happening on a Volt or anything similar. It seems to be Tesla specific.

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Reply #99 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 12:05pm

lee wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:26am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:19am:

well that's a good reason for Tesla to close its production line down isn't it

You really that stupid?

No; but it is a reason for Tesla, if they are to continue making cars, is to make them robust enough to drive on dirt roads. Something that other car manufacturers seem to have little problem in doing.

I haven't heard it happening on a Volt or anything similar. It seems to be Tesla specific.

how many people need to drive on dirt roads and who cares ??

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Reply #100 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 12:06pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 12:05pm:

lee wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:26am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:19am:

well that's a good reason for Tesla to close its production line down isn't it

You really that stupid?

No; but it is a reason for Tesla, if they are to continue making cars, is to make them robust enough to drive on dirt roads. Something that other car manufacturers seem to have little problem in doing.

I haven't heard it happening on a Volt or anything similar. It seems to be Tesla specific.

how many people need to drive on dirt roads and who cares ??

I do to be honest, its really not the dirt road thing, its more the distance to charge thing.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21592 Gender:	Re: Electric cars are here to stay... Reply #101 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 1:50pm Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 12:05pm: how many people need to drive on dirt roads and who cares ?? So you are now conceding that Teslas should only be highway driven and should not be driven on any roads with potholes.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Electric cars are here to stay... Reply #102 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 3:52pm Tesla will start making an SUV from late next year. Tesla Model 3 production is ramping up: https://robertscribbler.com/2018/04/09/tesla-model-3-production-keeps-ramping-hi...
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Reply #103 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 4:20pm

lee wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:26am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:19am:

well that's a good reason for Tesla to close its production line down isn't it

You really that stupid?

No; but it is a reason for Tesla, if they are to continue making cars, is to make them robust enough to drive on dirt roads. Something that other car manufacturers seem to have little problem in doing.

I haven't heard it happening on a Volt or anything similar. It seems to be Tesla specific.

Well one car breaking something after 14000 kms on rough roads isn’t really a robust issue. I think Tesla have made 300 - 400 thousand cars and one broke something.
Tesla haven’t had a accident yet from Shoddy workmanship or doggy parts look at recal info n the big 3in USA and see how many recalls they have from bad manufactured parts that have killed ppl and made accidents.
Hell driving a $15000 luxury heavy car on pothole ridden dirt roads no matter the manufacturer might break something after 140000 kms, just thinking.
I remember as a kid having a land cruiser wheel beating us after a pothole.

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Reply #104 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 4:39pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 12:06pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 12:05pm:

lee wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:26am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 11:19am:

well that's a good reason for Tesla to close its production line down isn't it

You really that stupid?

No; but it is a reason for Tesla, if they are to continue making cars, is to make them robust enough to drive on dirt roads. Something that other car manufacturers seem to have little problem in doing.

I haven't heard it happening on a Volt or anything similar. It seems to be Tesla specific.

how many people need to drive on dirt roads and who cares ??

I do to be honest, its really not the dirt road thing, its more the distance to charge thing.

BUT you aren't many people Grin

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