lee wrote on Jun 1^st, 2018 at 3:37pm:

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1116932_sono-sion-solar-electric-car-promis...
A little shorter than a Chevy Bolt EV, the Sion will be made of polycarbonate plastic body panels over an aluminum space frame. It  uses a 35-kwh battery, and Hahn claims a range of 155 miles.
Although the car will have a CCS fast-charge port, solar panels covering the roof and sides of the car provide up to 18 miles of travel a day in the summertime. In winter, the solar range could drop to as few as 3 miles a day.
Hahn says the car could make a good alternative for buyers who want an electric car but may live in an apartment or condominium where they don't have access to home charging and can't put solar panels on their roofs.
To save cost, the car won't be painted, but will come with glossy black polycarbonate body panels that Hahn says could be cheaper to replace after minor accident damage—even with their integrated solar panels—than painted steel panels on conventional cars.


So that's 30km's a day from solar ,Australians do a average of 40km's a day so after a day in the sun it will cost 30 cents a day to recharge the difference, on a crappy day will be a Dollar to recharge.

so according to our resident druggie - DRAH - no one drives more than 300kms. Except that a LOT of people do and many do it often.

Dont debase the debate by pretending that people dont need long-distance driving cars.

As for driving from her to Perth. No, I cant do it on a full tank, but I can find 500 petrol stations between here and there and zero superchargers. Every other charging point is at best 7kw and possibly considerably less.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 11^th, 2018 at 5:25pm:


The problem is that EV evangalists want you to believe that petrol cars can be easily and completely replaced by EVs. They cant. I even watched a reviewer of the Jaguar iPace and he commented that while driving in country Portugal, he experienced 'range stress' because he knew that if he ran low on charge, there was nowhere to recharge while if it were petrol, there were dozens of options.  its a real thing.

If you love EVs and want to promote them then you need to understand that this is a real problem for real drivers in the real world. What would solve it largely would be an EV with a 2500km range. That way recharging could be incremental and still permit real long driving.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11^th, 2018 at 3:36pm:


So for the 0.01% that drive 300km or more per day you want Tesla to close down their factories and stop selling their cars LOL

https://insideevs.com/gulplugs-p-plate-a-self-plug-in-charging-station-w-video/
The P-Plate is kind of a self plug-in system with 40 centimeters of self-adjustment with magnetic guidance and self plug-out device. The charging cable is retracted into the car.
There are no efficiency losses, as in the case of wireless charging, but convenience should be similar. Also, the price of the P-Plate should be no higher than a conventional home charging station, according to the company. Though no official pricing has been announced.

So now when u park your EV at night it plugs itself in.
No more having to goto a gas station , not even having to remember to plug the car in at night.
The against ticks r slowly getting less and less.

lee wrote on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 12:10pm:

ok how this for a good spin
the Model 3 was the best selling electric car in the USA last month ever....... beat the S from about 2 years ago.
that with the production hell they r experiencing.

lee wrote on Jun 14^th, 2018 at 12:21pm:

also the best selling car overall last month in it's class, of small luxury beating merc bmw aldi etc etc
remember Tesla's r luxury cars ... so they r judged in that category.