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Reply #165 - Apr 15^th, 2018 at 9:05pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 6:58pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 4:35pm:

lee wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 2:40pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 2:27pm:

it figured that 6kwh or energy is used for every gallon of finished product from crude oil. not all is electricity, but again that's only one argument, the article has many arguments and in them all it shows it takes a lot of effort

Yeah. On VERY rubbery figures. Wink

For ALL refinery products.

I'll leave you to Mass Debate. Wink

what about shipping the crude across the ocean using the most inefficient and polluting means of transport ?? Does that not count considering that people can generate FREE energy from their own rooftops and charge up their own EV's from it ?

Well, I think that is the crux of the very point: I don't think renewable energy could ship crude across the world!

Australia seams to supply 5% of our crude oil , be nice if lower demand so only Australian oil was used.

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Reply #166 - Apr 15^th, 2018 at 9:12pm

lee wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 4:35pm:

what about shipping the crude across the ocean using the most inefficient and polluting means of transport ??

Let us know when you build your first fleet of sailing vessels. Grin

why bother when you can run cars from electricity you generate from your own rooftop ?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21667 Gender:	Re: Electric cars are here to stay... Reply #167 - Apr 15^th, 2018 at 9:20pm Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 9:12pm: why bother when you can run cars from electricity you generate from your own rooftop ? Yeah. And all other things electric.
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30923 Gender:	Re: Electric cars are here to stay... Reply #168 - Apr 16^th, 2018 at 10:50am lee wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 9:20pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 9:12pm: why bother when you can run cars from electricity you generate from your own rooftop ? Yeah. And all other things electric. isn't it terrible stealing energy from the sun and not having to pay for it LOL
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21667 Gender:	Re: Electric cars are here to stay... Reply #169 - Apr 16^th, 2018 at 10:57am Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 16^th, 2018 at 10:50am: isn't it terrible stealing energy from the sun and not having to pay for it You mean you STOLE your solar panels?
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30923 Gender:	Re: Electric cars are here to stay... Reply #170 - Apr 16^th, 2018 at 11:23am lee wrote on Apr 16^th, 2018 at 10:57am: Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 16^th, 2018 at 10:50am: isn't it terrible stealing energy from the sun and not having to pay for it You mean you STOLE your solar panels? and the energy comes from where ?
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Reply #171 - Apr 16^th, 2018 at 3:06pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 16^th, 2018 at 11:23am:

lee wrote on Apr 16^th, 2018 at 10:57am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 16^th, 2018 at 10:50am:

isn't it terrible stealing energy from the sun and not having to pay for it

You mean you STOLE your solar panels?

and the energy comes from where ?

Lee isn't paid to converse!

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Reply #172 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 10:01pm

I'm wondering if Electric Car arn't the way to the Future, then what is? Just keep using Fossil fuel Vehicles, keep having their emissions poison our air ?
Keep buying oil from the middle east ?
Lots of u guys seam to be good at putting all these things down, what positive things can be used in the future with our transport ?

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Electric cars are here to stay... Reply #173 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 8:47am The Insanity of Musk: https://www.tvovermind.com/tv-news/video-accurately-breaks-insanity-elon-musk When young people realise just how fast EVs can accelerate the demand for EVs will skyrocket.
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Reply #174 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 2:13pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 10:01pm:

I'm wondering if Electric Car arn't the way to the Future, then what is? Just keep using Fossil fuel Vehicles, keep having their emissions poison our air ?
Keep buying oil from the middle east ?
Lots of u guys seam to be good at putting all these things down, what positive things can be used in the future with our transport ?

They are paid to knock: modern economies are mostly full of pretend work!

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Reply #175 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 2:41pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Apr 18^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 10:01pm:

I'm wondering if Electric Car arn't the way to the Future, then what is? Just keep using Fossil fuel Vehicles, keep having their emissions poison our air ?
Keep buying oil from the middle east ?
Lots of u guys seam to be good at putting all these things down, what positive things can be used in the future with our transport ?

They are paid to knock: modern economies are mostly full of pretend work!

Instead of building electric cars here the libbos would rather have more people making cups of coffee and realtor scumbags running around in their imported BMW's. That's the libbos bullshit service economy driven by piles of debt that can never ever be payed back Sad

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Reply #176 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 3:00pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 18^th, 2018 at 2:41pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Apr 18^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 10:01pm:

I'm wondering if Electric Car arn't the way to the Future, then what is? Just keep using Fossil fuel Vehicles, keep having their emissions poison our air ?
Keep buying oil from the middle east ?
Lots of u guys seam to be good at putting all these things down, what positive things can be used in the future with our transport ?

They are paid to knock: modern economies are mostly full of pretend work!

Instead of building electric cars here the libbos would rather have more people making cups of coffee and realtor scumbags running around in their imported BMW's. That's the libbos bullshit service economy driven by piles of debt that can never ever be payed back Sad

Christmas in Australia is always interesting.

The place is full of people that don't give a shite about each other but you all laugh when you realise it's just a microcosm of the friggin' country.

It's all a consequence of knowing most of us actually do rather pointless jobs, hence the aloofness to reality trying to maintain a degree of semi-import.

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Reply #177 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 7:19pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 9:12pm:

lee wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 4:35pm:

what about shipping the crude across the ocean using the most inefficient and polluting means of transport ??

Let us know when you build your first fleet of sailing vessels. Grin

why bother when you can run cars from electricity you generate from your own rooftop ?

Unlike you, I actually have a solar PV system - a 10Kw one. One think you quickly learn is that it only generates when the sun is up and for most people who work out of the home, that means they cannot charge their car at home during the day when theyir car isnt at home.

ALSO... a Home PV system is largely meant to power... *drum roll* THE HOME. My system i double the average size and in inclement weather like over the weekend i generated only 16kwhr of power, not even enough to power my house so the power for this EV would have to come from the grid. During mid-summer, this might work but once again, I have to actually be at home to charge my car instead of being out and about having fun in the sun.

As always, you talk without knowlege or experience.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Electric cars are here to stay... Reply #178 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 7:20pm HOW MANY OF YOU PRO-EV RANTERS ACTUALLY OWN AN EV??? oh thats right... none
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Reply #179 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 9:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 18^th, 2018 at 7:19pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 9:12pm:

lee wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 15^th, 2018 at 4:35pm:

what about shipping the crude across the ocean using the most inefficient and polluting means of transport ??

Let us know when you build your first fleet of sailing vessels. Grin

why bother when you can run cars from electricity you generate from your own rooftop ?

Unlike you, I actually have a solar PV system - a 10Kw one. One think you quickly learn is that it only generates when the sun is up and for most people who work out of the home, that means they cannot charge their car at home during the day when theyir car isnt at home.

ALSO... a Home PV system is largely meant to power... *drum roll* THE HOME. My system i double the average size and in inclement weather like over the weekend i generated only 16kwhr of power, not even enough to power my house so the power for this EV would have to come from the grid. During mid-summer, this might work but once again, I have to actually be at home to charge my car instead of being out and about having fun in the sun.

As always, you talk without knowlege or experience.

yeh what a hypocrite. Ask your hypocrite mate Malcolm about his installation. Much bigger than yours with plenty of battery backup. Wouldn't have been possible at those prices if you lot had of been in charge with your f.cked up policies Sad

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