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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21681 Gender:	Re: Greeny renewable rubbish sending Australia broke Reply #105 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:07pm Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 1:43pm: The private companies are there to make money not to provide continuous electrical power 24/7. They are not making money when the power goes out; it is costing them.
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Reply #106 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:15pm

lee wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 1:43pm:

The private companies are there to make money
not to provide continuous electrical power 24/7.

They are not making money when the power goes out; it is costing them.

But it's still cheaper than providing bullet proof infrastructure.

Did you read what Nail said?

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:39pm:

that's bullshit. I walk past at least one power pole that is on life support. One of them looks like a tooth pick ready to split in half and kill someone any time. hardly call that gold plating ! A place I lived once there was a power pole outside it had one of its 11kv wires come a drift and hit the ground and the noise was truly frightening. Anyone standing there or driving would have been toast Sad

Another power pole was on so much of a bad angle and had a bend in it, it took them years to come and replace it Sad

The only thing that is being gold plated is their bank accounts !!

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Reply #107 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:15pm:

But it's still cheaper than providing bullet proof infrastructure.

Who said anything about bullet-proofing? You look at the start-up current draw, if it is increasing you need to keep a close eye on the network for improvements.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:15pm:

Did you read what Nail said?

Yes. One isolated power pole cannot prove or disprove whether a network was or was not gold-plated, whether the money went straight to bonuses, shareholders or to somewhere else.

Of course if he were really concerned, he would take up a petition about it being dangerous.

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Reply #108 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm

lee wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:15pm:

But it's still cheaper than providing bullet proof infrastructure.

Who said anything about bullet-proofing? You look at the start-up current draw, if it is increasing you need to keep a close eye on the network for improvements.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:15pm:

Did you read what Nail said?

Yes. One isolated power pole cannot prove or disprove whether a network was or was not gold-plated, whether the money went straight to bonuses, shareholders or to somewhere else.

Of course if he were really concerned, he would take up a petition about it being dangerous.

Bullet proofing is a metaphor for making sure that it works under all conditions.

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -
not just the one that Nail mentioned.
People need to open their eyes when they walk down the street.

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Reply #109 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm:

Bullet proofing is a metaphor for making sure that it works under all conditions.

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -

Yes. I understand. A step up from gold-plating.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm:

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -
not just the one that Nail mentioned.
People need to open their eyes when they walk down the street.

The thing is Lastnail has seen. He hasn't indicated he has done anything about it. Perhaps he is one of those people happy to leave it to "someone else".

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Reply #110 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:05pm

lee wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm:

Bullet proofing is a metaphor for making sure that it works under all conditions.

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -

Yes. I understand. A step up from gold-plating.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm:

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -
not just the one that Nail mentioned.
People need to open their eyes when they walk down the street.

The thing is Lastnail has seen. He hasn't indicated he has done anything about it.

It's not Nail's job to fix it up.
As far as I know it was reported to the electricity provider.
They don't fix things up till they break down first.

We need preventive maintenance.

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Reply #111 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:05pm:

It's not Nail's job to fix it up.

Nope. never said it was. As a concerend citizen however; he should. As I said "raise a petition". Point it out to people who have not noticed.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:05pm:

As far as I know it was reported to the electricity provider.

So perhaps one report? How about multiple reports?

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:05pm:

They don't fix things up till they break down first.

You must have strange providers over east. The poles in our town were all replaced. Some sign of wear.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:05pm:

We need preventive maintenance.

Exactly. And that is aided by people (plural) voicing there concerns.

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Reply #112 - Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:05pm:

lee wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm:

Bullet proofing is a metaphor for making sure that it works under all conditions.

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -

Yes. I understand. A step up from gold-plating.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm:

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -
not just the one that Nail mentioned.
People need to open their eyes when they walk down the street.

The thing is Lastnail has seen. He hasn't indicated he has done anything about it.

It's not Nail's job to fix it up.
As far as I know it was reported to the electricity provider.
They don't fix things up till they break down first.

We need preventive maintenance.

We need state owned electricity supply , privitisation had been an obvious abject failure

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Reply #114 - Feb 4^th, 2018 at 6:32am

Its time wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:05pm:

lee wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm:

Bullet proofing is a metaphor for making sure that it works under all conditions.

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -

Yes. I understand. A step up from gold-plating.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm:

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -
not just the one that Nail mentioned.
People need to open their eyes when they walk down the street.

The thing is Lastnail has seen. He hasn't indicated he has done anything about it.

It's not Nail's job to fix it up.
As far as I know it was reported to the electricity provider.
They don't fix things up till they break down first.

We need preventive maintenance.

We need state owned electricity supply , privitisation had been an obvious abject failure

hear hear Leftwinger,

and we need to buy it back for $1.

Don't give those con men a penny more.

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Reply #115 - Feb 4^th, 2018 at 2:58pm

lee wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm:

Bullet proofing is a metaphor for making sure that it works under all conditions.

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -

Yes. I understand. A step up from gold-plating.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:35pm:

There are many examples of dilapidated infrastructure -
not just the one that Nail mentioned.
People need to open their eyes when they walk down the street.

The thing is Lastnail has seen. He hasn't indicated he has done anything about it. Perhaps he is one of those people happy to leave it to "someone else".

why should it be the job of the untrained public to go around and inspect their "gold plated" network ? What happened to the inspectors ? Silly question of course because the shareholders greed is more important than the publics safety Sad

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Reply #116 - Feb 4^th, 2018 at 3:02pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

why should it be the job of the untrained public to go around and inspect their "gold plated" network ? What happened to the inspectors ? Silly question of course because the shareholders greed is more important than the publics safety Sad

Yes - some gullible people on this forum who
can't see that they have been ripped off.

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Reply #117 - Feb 4^th, 2018 at 3:07pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

why should it be the job of the untrained public to go around and inspect their "gold plated" network ? What happened to the inspectors ? Silly question of course because the shareholders greed is more important than the publics safety

Strange how you an "untrained member of the public" could spot a problem. Also strange that you don't own a phone to report the problem. Not that it is your problem of course. If the power goes out it will be their fault. If anybody s injured or killed it will again be their problem. Your hands will be more or less clean.

So if it went back to the Government they would employ more people, because currently no-one or not enough trained inspectors are doing the job and it will cost less money?

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Reply #118 - Feb 4^th, 2018 at 5:02pm

lee wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 3:07pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

why should it be the job of the untrained public to go around and inspect their "gold plated" network ? What happened to the inspectors ? Silly question of course because the shareholders greed is more important than the publics safety

Strange how you an "untrained member of the public" could spot a problem. Also strange that you don't own a phone to report the problem. Not that it is your problem of course. If the power goes out it will be their fault. If anybody s injured or killed it will again be their problem. Your hands will be more or less clean.

So if it went back to the Government they would employ more people, because currently no-one or not enough trained inspectors are doing the job and it will cost less money?

you'd probably expect the public to do a close inspection of the substations and HV towers as well Cheesy

LOL

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Reply #119 - Feb 4^th, 2018 at 5:05pm

crocodile wrote on Jan 24^th, 2018 at 4:10pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 24^th, 2018 at 3:46pm:

crocodile wrote on Jan 24^th, 2018 at 2:28pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 24^th, 2018 at 2:20pm:

lee wrote on Jan 24^th, 2018 at 2:18pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 24^th, 2018 at 1:49pm:

Was being matched 3 : 1 from private capital

3Government to1 private capital?

Its time wrote on Jan 24^th, 2018 at 1:49pm:

or should we only reserve subsidies for anvil industry

Perhaps you can cite an anvil industry that got those billions ?

the never ever clean coal technologies and deisel rebates !

and what about the libbos infamous direct action plan ?

Diesel rebates aren't subsidies. Property flippers as you call them get none either.

How's direct action a subsidy. Coal and gas have certainly had a fair swag over the years though.

Property flippers and investors get lots of corporate welfare in the form of tax concessions and CGT discounts.

It's been explained to you numerous times. You really are a dense twat.

and nobody accepts your lame explanation except you !

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