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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #30 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 12:21pm TROLL.... run along now Repetition won't make you right. I'd have thought you'd have learnt that by now fool
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Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Reply #31 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 12:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 12:19pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 9:26am:

Their governance is appalling.

Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)

The sinister goose is cooked!

Done like a dinner Grin

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Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Reply #32 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 12:37pm

Its time wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 12:19pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 9:26am:

Their governance is appalling.

Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)

The sinister goose is cooked!

Done like a dinner Grin

The goose is stuffed.

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Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Reply #33 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 4:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 11:24pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:

As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

Huh

You call 20+ years fairly new? Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.

.....AND.....absolutely zero existing, operating Party structure. Even their candidates are left to fend for themselves to establish any support.

I thought they were in the wilderness for a decade or so....Apparently I was wrong???

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Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Reply #34 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 6:40pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 11:07am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 9:26am:

Their governance is appalling.

Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)

I stand by my comments... YOU need to post some real proof.
You need to show where anyone accused of anything has been gaoled, fined or incarcerated.

Handwaving is not a refutation, nor is shifting the goalposts.

You need to watch this episode of Four Corners - or at least read the transcript - and then draw your own conclusions regarding One Nation's governance. Why won't you do this?

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Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Reply #35 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 6:44pm

Pauline Hanson's One Nation is being investigated by electoral authorities (Business Insider, 26/5/17)
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The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) has used special coercive powers to force Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to hand over information about a small plane used by the senator during election campaigns.

Electoral commissioner Tom Rogers told Senate Estimates yesterday that the AEC was looking into the ownership of a plane and had to use its coercive powers for the first time in five years after it struggled to get the information it needs from One Nation.

Last month ABC TV’s Four Corners investigated the ownership of the light plane, which was used by Hanson during last year’s election campaign. The AEC is investigating claims that Pauline Hanson’s One Nation breached electoral disclosure laws by failing to declare the Jabiru aircraft.

Four Corners alleged property developer Bill McNee bought the plane for the party as far back at 2015. McNee denies it. Hanson’s controversial chief of staff, James Ashby, is a pilot.

Earlier this year senator Hanson told Sky News it was “the party’s plane”, but she paid for fuel out of her own pocket since the election, but this month, she revised her position, saying Ashby, bought it from McNee.

At estimates yesterday, commissioner Rogers said the AEC had issued notices to party officials to compel them to provide the information they sought.

“With the issue of those notices, the matter ceased being an inquiry and became a formal investigation and that’s where we are at the moment,” he said.

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Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Reply #36 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 8:17pm

Bam wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 6:40pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 11:07am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 10:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 10:02am:

Bam wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 9:26am:

Their governance is appalling.

Really?
Perhaps you could cite their Constitution or post the Executive's minutes for us all to see.
Reportedly this is a childish defection based on one mans dislike of another.

Yes, really. Watch this before commenting again on their governance.

Please Explain (Four Corners, 3/4/17)

I stand by my comments... YOU need to post some real proof.
You need to show where anyone accused of anything has been gaoled, fined or incarcerated.

Handwaving is not a refutation, nor is shifting the goalposts.

You need to watch this episode of Four Corners - or at least read the transcript - and then draw your own conclusions regarding One Nation's governance. Why won't you do this?

YOU'RE doing the handwaving not me.
YOU believe everything the ABC tells you apparently.
Well I watched the program and I know where its right and wrong. my own conclusions aren't biased like yours. If you'd been a member you might have a better idea about the reality of the situation and the people involved.

I know a great deal about the party and its various state branches and personel, thanks... what do YOU actually know? Roll Eyes

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Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Reply #37 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 8:20pm

Bam wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 6:44pm:

Pauline Hanson's One Nation is being investigated by electoral authorities (Business Insider, 26/5/17)
Quote:

The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) has used special coercive powers to force Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to hand over information about a small plane used by the senator during election campaigns.

Electoral commissioner Tom Rogers told Senate Estimates yesterday that the AEC was looking into the ownership of a plane and had to use its coercive powers for the first time in five years after it struggled to get the information it needs from One Nation.

Last month ABC TV’s Four Corners investigated the ownership of the light plane, which was used by Hanson during last year’s election campaign. The AEC is investigating claims that Pauline Hanson’s One Nation breached electoral disclosure laws by failing to declare the Jabiru aircraft.

Four Corners alleged property developer Bill McNee bought the plane for the party as far back at 2015. McNee denies it. Hanson’s controversial chief of staff, James Ashby, is a pilot.

Earlier this year senator Hanson told Sky News it was “the party’s plane”, but she paid for fuel out of her own pocket since the election, but this month, she revised her position, saying Ashby, bought it from McNee.

At estimates yesterday, commissioner Rogers said the AEC had issued notices to party officials to compel them to provide the information they sought.

“With the issue of those notices, the matter ceased being an inquiry and became a formal investigation and that’s where we are at the moment,” he said.

So the outcome has been what? Roll Eyes

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Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Reply #38 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 8:28pm

Perhaps you should read...
HOW THE ABC FRAMED PAULINE HANSON... one of many such articles?
Or
Everything you should know about Pauline Hanson, the Queensland senator whose re-election has shaken politics... which IMO is a fair article in spite of a few errors of fact... YOU might learn something BAM, but like your 2 troll mates I doubt it very much.

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Pauline Hanson is a cultural phenomenon and part of Australia many, especially the ruling class, don’t understand.
Critics see her as right wing – conservative on many fronts certainly – not recognising much of her world view has its roots in the Labor Party’s traditional core.
It’s a popularist, protectionist, anti-immigration view of the world. She comes from a long line of Queenslanders who portray themselves as anti-establishment outsiders – the most recent incarnation being Clive Palmer.
Hanson’s views are not dissimilar to Tasmania’s Jacqui Lambie, a senator re-elected on a platform of raging against the system and the Muslim threat.
In the ’90s, Hanson’s fear was Asian immigrants. Today it’s Muslims. She also opposes multiculturalism, CSG mining, and the foreign ownership of property or national assets.
She regards Islam as a “totalitarian political ideology” and wants cameras in mosques and Muslim schools, the burqa banned and for good measure, a royal commission into the religion. She wants a royal commission into climate change too, as well as banks.

My guess is you are so ignorant of the facts you'd deny that excerpt too. Roll Eyes

How ya going on the ALP internals eh...ignoring them like a good little socialist luvvie? Grin

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39624 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #39 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 8:34pm Grendel, you do not have a clue. In an on going iphone text communication exchange I had with Ashby, I referred him to here, and told him that you claimed to be a PHON veteran, and suggested he contact you here. Did he?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #40 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 8:39pm You are an idiot... as if I will identify myself here for a stooge like you. As if James would waste his time with you. But hey, maybe I could get another well paid job eh
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Re: Internal warfare in One Nation
Reply #41 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 9:16pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 8:39pm:

You are an idiot... as if I will identify myself here for a stooge like you.
As if James would waste his time with you.

But hey, maybe I could get another well paid job eh Roll Eyes

No-one was asked to ID themselves Grendel. I gave Ashby the url for here, told him what your user name is, and suggested he contact you here.

I guess he read your tripe and decided not to contact you here.

Believe it or not, I could not care less. He wiped you.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #42 - Jan 24^th, 2018 at 6:15am IDIOT.... you are such a dope as if I even believe you. How's Clive going you self important twat?
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #43 - Jan 24^th, 2018 at 6:57am Now perhaps in Pauline donned her burka again...
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #44 - Jan 24^th, 2018 at 7:11am One of the political highlights of the last year. Proved George was an ignorant ass...
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