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Internal warfare in One Nation
Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 3:36pm

Pauline Hanson wants High Court to give Fraser Anning the boot from Parliament

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* Pauline Hanson will make a claim relating to bankruptcy proceedings levelled against Fraser Anning before he entered Parliament
* Senator Anning's case was settled out of court before Malcolm Roberts was disqualified from the Senate
* The Senate would have to vote to refer Senator Anning to the High Court to assess his eligibility

Pauline Hanson is launching a bid to have her renegade former colleague Fraser Anning kicked out of Parliament by the High Court, but she could have trouble convincing her Senate colleagues to back the move.

According to reports in The Australian newspaper, the One Nation leader has written to Senate President Scott Ryan signalling her intention to ask the Upper House to refer Senator Anning's eligibility for office for judgment by the court.

It is understood the claim will relate to bankruptcy proceedings levelled against Senator Anning before he was confirmed as the replacement for ousted Queensland senator Malcolm Roberts, who fell foul of the constitution's dual citizenship ban.

Senator Hanson's argument would be unorthodox because the constitution says anyone who is an undischarged bankrupt is ineligible, but Senator Anning has never been declared bankrupt.

That case, which related to a debt of more than $200,000 from a failed agribusiness investment scheme, was settled out of court before Mr Roberts was disqualified from the Senate and Senator Anning was confirmed as his replacement.

Even though that settlement means he was never declared bankrupt, Senator Hanson seems to be suggesting it could still rule him ineligible under the constitution's ban on bankrupts sitting in parliament.

"I have never been bankrupt or insolvent and therefore not disqualifiable under the constitution," Senator Anning said in a statement.

"Any plans by One Nation to refer me to the High Court are frivolous."

Just moments into his political career, Senator Anning set tongues wagging throughout Parliament House by being escorted into the Upper House ahead of his swearing in by Liberal Democrat senator David Leyonhjelm and Australian Conservatives senator Cory Bernardi.

Earlier, his first One Nation party room meeting had abruptly ended after what he described as a "vitriolic" attack by his colleagues.

Senator Anning has since split with Ms Hanson's party, and there is mounting speculation he could join forces with another group.

"I have met with people from a variety of political parties who support the interests of rural and regional Australians," he said.

"I have declared to the President of the Senate my intent to sit as an independent, and I will be making a statement to this effect when Parliament resumes."

Earlier this month colourful MP Bob Katter attempted to downplay rumours Senator Anning could join his Katter's Australian Party, saying they were simply good mates who had known each other for 40 years.

The Senate would have to vote to refer Senator Anning to the High Court, and as yet there is no suggestion of whether the major parties would see merit in pursuing yet another case being referred.

In the event the Queenslander was disqualified, the next One Nation candidate likely to benefit from a recount would be Senator Hanson's sister, Judy Smith.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #1 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 3:44pm Meh.... slow news day....
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #2 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 3:52pm Soon as saw one nation I knew her number one poor man's lib fanbois would comment
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #3 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 4:00pm Grendel wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 3:44pm: Meh.... slow news day.... LOL CFMEU.... been sitting there waiting all day for me eh... Want to see a political party fanboi... look in a mirror. I'm a swinging voter Unlike your braindead tribalism eh.
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tickleandrose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4201 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #4 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 4:11pm re Grendel I am not sure if you are a swing vote Grendel. Swinging from one nation to lib/nat is not that much of a swing. And i cant really see you voting anywhere near Labor or Greens.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #5 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 4:41pm I haven't voted Lib/Nat as you call them since the mid 70s. I think I have voted for them 2 times in that period and once was in a state election. So you be wrong eh. BTW there are more parties and independents than there are major parties... seems to me you just vote Lab or Green... Tickle.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39660 Gender:	Re: Internal warfare in One Nation Reply #6 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 4:48pm Typical Ashby beat up. There is no way Hanson will ever attempt to get the Senate to refer Anning. The plain simple and very clear fact is that Anning was not an undischarged bankrupt. He was never bankrupted. Link.
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Reply #7 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 5:35pm

Stone the crows now Bob Katter is after Fraser Anning!!! Pauline must be fuming!!! Was she set up ?

Bob Katter evasive about plans to lure Fraser Anning to his party
Amy Remeikis Thu 11 Jan 2018 16.54 AEDT Last modified on Thu 11 Jan 2018 16.56 AEDT

‘I hope that we will continue working closely together,’ Queensland federal MP says of the former One Nation senator.

Bob Katter

The Queensland federal MP Bob Katter is playing coy over speculation he is looking to woo the former One Nation senator Fraser Anning to his party.

Anning burst on to the federal political scene in spectacular fashion, taking the spot of ousted Queensland One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts and moments after being sworn in either quit the party or was kicked out – depending on whether party leader Pauline Hanson or Anning is telling the story.

Since then, Anning has stayed relatively quiet about his intentions, saying he is content to remain on the crossbench as an independent for now.

Enter his “good mate” Katter, who has refused to hose down speculation Anning could become his party’s first federal senator, in a statement purportedly released to quell that very rumour.

After it was made known the pair were meeting for dinner on Thursday night, Katter said it was “not unusual” for them to “catch up”, given they “have been close family friends for more than 40 years and they have a lot in common”.

“I have discussions with people like Fraser Anning all the time,” Katter said in his statement.

“I would be surprised if there was anything much that Fraser and I would disagree on. We both went to the big Christian schools in Charters Towers [north Queensland]. Both of our families were in Charters Towers before there was a Charters Towers, and his family goes back even further than mine.

“We both had cattle stations; we are both businessmen and both very strong Bjelke-Petersen men and I hope that we will continue working closely together.”

Anning did not respond to requests for comment.

It is not the first time Katter’s Australian Party has flirted with taking on board disillusioned former minor party members. Its state MPs, led by Katter’s son Robbie, attempted to woo former Palmer United party MPs to their party banner before the 2015 election, but to no avail.

Queensland’s KAP has also worked on creating a crossbench voting bloc in an attempt to swing more influence in the state parliament, where Katter Sr makes frequent appearances despite his federal jurisdiction.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/11/bob-katter-evasive-about-...

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Reply #8 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 7:11pm

As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

Huh

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Reply #9 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 8:47pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:

As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

Huh

You call 20+ years fairly new? Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

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Reply #10 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 10:47pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:

As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

Huh

You call 20+ years fairly new? Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.

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Reply #11 - Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 11:24pm

Bam wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:

As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

Huh

You call 20+ years fairly new? Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.

.....AND.....absolutely zero existing, operating Party structure. Even their candidates are left to fend for themselves to establish any support.

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Reply #12 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 6:54am

Bam wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:

As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

Huh

You call 20+ years fairly new? Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.

Not really.
One would expect a person elected as a Party member to stay with that party. At least for the term. His behaviour re this situation is truly disloyal and frankly astonishing.

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Reply #13 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 6:57am

Aussie wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 11:24pm:

Bam wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 10:47pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 8:47pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:

As a fairly new party you can understand One Nation having a few dissenters within their ranks as they try to find candidates....But this bloke ran for One Nation in 1998 and many others who have been with the party for over a decade have split....Is it incompetence or something else Pauline is not telling us about the dysfunction within her party???

Huh

You call 20+ years fairly new? Really?
If you really want to know the problems, just ask.

This only makes One Nation's problems with internal governance worse.

One Nation has two real problems - Hanson and Ashby.

.....AND.....absolutely zero existing, operating Party structure. Even their candidates are left to fend for themselves to establish any support.

CLUELESS
just admit it Aussie...
YOU have no clue.
best you talk about Palmer's Party eh.. how's that going BTW?

What is left of PHON is what we are dealing with... but it is not structure free etc.

Best you shut up unless you actually know something. Roll Eyes

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Reply #14 - Jan 23^rd, 2018 at 7:44am

pauline is not the right personality for this type of party.

she is a bit bitter, always looks butt hurt, plays the victim a bit and she doesnt seem to be buzzing off her own awesomeness.

she is patriotic and wants auusies to take pride in their country but she hasnt climbed the "narrow road to success".

she only made it to running a takeaway store in ipswich.
Hardly good enough to be telling other people what to do.

If we contrast her with other nationalist patriots, we see the stark contrast.

Donald and Vlad are both super awesome guys who are at the top of their game.
they kick heads, they dont go on telly and act all cry baby and sooky like Hansen. they are the alpha of the alpha.
people can vibe with that, with strong pure masculine energy, with confidence, with positivity , with success, with a winner.

A better person to lead a patriotic nationalist party would be someone like twiggy Forrest . someone who has already had a lot of success and has much better emotional control

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