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Reply #15 - Jan 21st, 2018 at 1:07pm
 
miketrees wrote on Jan 21st, 2018 at 12:52pm:
JV I only have a prototype in my head.

The beauty of solar desalination is,

Lower power costs (hopefully)

You can use extremely salty water ,, which is not suitable for reverse osmosis.

There is less waste water to dispose of.

I need to know about the temperature gradient required to condense the water vapour in the piping.

It would not be difficult to heat the saline water, as long as the  clear top half of the pipe is cool enough.

Perhaps if the saline water was cold coming out of the ground that coolness could be used to cool the top half of the pipes.

I am not sure if anyone can visualise what I have in mind.

I can see it, I have coils of poly pipe out the back hooked up to rain water tank and the water comes out steaming hot after 10 minutes in summer, free hot water, really hot water, to use a still type set up to condense the vapor on a big scale might just work.
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Reply #16 - Jan 21st, 2018 at 1:19pm
 


I can see it, I have coils of poly pipe out the back hooked up to rain water tank and the water comes out steaming hot after 10 minutes in summer, free hot water, really hot water, to use a still type set up to condense the vapor on a big scale might just work.


I envisage using that pipe with its cool water to cool and condense vapour as it is pumped to the top of the desal tubes, it will be hot by the time its at the top , so a lot of the condensing will happen at the bottom .

Of course if night time air temps cool and the feed water is still red hot, a lot of condensation could take place at night.
this would require a large hot water storage at the top of the tubes.
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Reply #17 - Jan 21st, 2018 at 1:48pm
 
You would need a triple–walled clear pipe:

Inner, part filled with water with plenty water vapor above it.
This inner part has two walls, inner one does not go to the top and water is not filled over the level of the inner wall.

Final outer wall gets cold water from out the ground running from the top, down the sides of the pipe, cooling the vapor and condensing it. condensed water runs down the wall of the pipe between the inner and centre wall and is collected and used.

I would elaborate that, have the cold water instead running in a coil in the water vapor part, in at the top out at the bottom.

Condensing, cooling is done with counterflow: hot vapor heads down, cooling water heads up.

In the shop a bloke came in wanting a new still: his didn’t work well. We were delighted to sell him an expensive still taking his still as trade in. His condenser was connected the wrong way round. We fixed that and sold his still for a near-new price. So work in counterflow, will really boost your system’s efficiency.
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