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Reply #255 - Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:45am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:24am:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:24pm:

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Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Are Nazis bad Brian?

Many are, Setanta.

Sort of like other groups with nasty ideologies?

Like any group. Some are nice, some are nasty, some are indifferent. The Nazis stood for nasty ideals and supported a nasty man and a nasty regime.

Islam is a nasty ideology from a nasty man, as is Nazism, yet you use Nazi as an insult, even though you acknowledge all were not bad people and get offended when others do the same with Islam. Why don't you support the moderate Nazis rather than label them as all the same?

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Reply #256 - Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 7:58am

Mistress Nicole wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:26pm:

Oh Christ. Another thread with Brian’s tired old tricks. 🙄

sanctimony he wears the shroud of I am better than thee..

as well as anyone dont you think?...

not an evil thought in him... unless of course you disagree with his philosophy then its a big TSK TSK.with double dearie dearie messssssssssssssss...

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Reply #257 - Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 8:04am

Setanta wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:24am:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:19pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Are Nazis bad Brian?

Many are, Setanta.

Sort of like other groups with nasty ideologies?

Like any group. Some are nice, some are nasty, some are indifferent. The Nazis stood for nasty ideals and supported a nasty man and a nasty regime.

Islam is a nasty ideology from a nasty man, as is Nazism, yet you use Nazi as an insult, even though you acknowledge all were not bad people and get offended when others do the same with Islam. Why don't you support the moderate Nazis rather than label them as all the same?

hes thinking set!

NAZIsm is extreme... just the same as ISIL... its the violence that is so powerful....

and it is hard not to tar everyone with the same brush...

and yes we do seem to have imported a certain brand of extremism to this country.... and yes I do understand peoples concerns. Sad

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Reply #258 - Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:42pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:24am:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:19pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Are Nazis bad Brian?

Many are, Setanta.

Sort of like other groups with nasty ideologies?

Like any group. Some are nice, some are nasty, some are indifferent. The Nazis stood for nasty ideals and supported a nasty man and a nasty regime.

Islam is a nasty ideology from a nasty man, as is Nazism, yet you use Nazi as an insult, even though you acknowledge all were not bad people and get offended when others do the same with Islam. Why don't you support the moderate Nazis rather than label them as all the same?

As an "insult", really? Where do you get that idea from? The millions who died in WWII in Europe and North Africa and the Middle-East simply dropped dead because they chose to?

I am willing to acknowledge that some Nazis were honourable however, I rather suspect anyone who gave their allegiance to the crooked cross were interested in the same sort of things our own PHONies are - national aggrandisement, demeaning and even perhaps deporting or killing immigrants, taking their property, destroying their families, and so on.

In my experience, the over-whelming majority of Australian Muslims I have met have been honourable, well meaning, decent people who just want to be left alone to live their own lives and to raise their children in peace. They have no intent on harming others, no intent on stealing from others. Yes, I don't doubt there are some nasty Muslims but they are very much in the minority. Very much so. Should we condemn all Muslims in the same way we condemn (nearly) all Nazis? Nope. They are simply Australians who worship a different religion to the main. Just like Jews/Hintus/Buddhists/Shinto/etc. They have a right to believe what they believe. Nazis don't. They lost a massive war, which was waged to show the world's repugnance at what they were doing. Roll Eyes

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Reply #259 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:24am:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:19pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Are Nazis bad Brian?

Many are, Setanta.

Sort of like other groups with nasty ideologies?

Like any group. Some are nice, some are nasty, some are indifferent. The Nazis stood for nasty ideals and supported a nasty man and a nasty regime.

Islam is a nasty ideology from a nasty man, as is Nazism, yet you use Nazi as an insult, even though you acknowledge all were not bad people and get offended when others do the same with Islam. Why don't you support the moderate Nazis rather than label them as all the same?

As an "insult", really? Where do you get that idea from? The millions who died in WWII in Europe and North Africa and the Middle-East simply dropped dead because they chose to?

I am willing to acknowledge that some Nazis were honourable however, I rather suspect anyone who gave their allegiance to the crooked cross were interested in the same sort of things our own PHONies are - national aggrandisement, demeaning and even perhaps deporting or killing immigrants, taking their property, destroying their families, and so on.

In my experience, the over-whelming majority of Australian Muslims I have met have been honourable, well meaning, decent people who just want to be left alone to live their own lives and to raise their children in peace. They have no intent on harming others, no intent on stealing from others. Yes, I don't doubt there are some nasty Muslims but they are very much in the minority. Very much so. Should we condemn all Muslims in the same way we condemn (nearly) all Nazis? Nope. They are simply Australians who worship a different religion to the main. Just like Jews/Hintus/Buddhists/Shinto/etc. They have a right to believe what they believe. Nazis don't. They lost a massive war, which was waged to show the world's repugnance at what they were doing. Roll Eyes

Why should we put ourselves in harm's way for the sake of a few Muslims when they are openly waging jihad against the West? Let the ooeaceful muslim stay in their own muslim countries and reign in the supposed minority of nasties. Why do we have to import them wholesale? The skilled ones should be building up their iwn counties.

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Reply #260 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:24am:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:19pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Are Nazis bad Brian?

Many are, Setanta.

Sort of like other groups with nasty ideologies?

Like any group. Some are nice, some are nasty, some are indifferent. The Nazis stood for nasty ideals and supported a nasty man and a nasty regime.

Islam is a nasty ideology from a nasty man, as is Nazism, yet you use Nazi as an insult, even though you acknowledge all were not bad people and get offended when others do the same with Islam. Why don't you support the moderate Nazis rather than label them as all the same?

As an "insult", really? Where do you get that idea from? The millions who died in WWII in Europe and North Africa and the Middle-East simply dropped dead because they chose to?

I am willing to acknowledge that some Nazis were honourable however, I rather suspect anyone who gave their allegiance to the crooked cross were interested in the same sort of things our own PHONies are - national aggrandisement, demeaning and even perhaps deporting or killing immigrants, taking their property, destroying their families, and so on.

In my experience, the over-whelming majority of Australian Muslims I have met have been honourable, well meaning, decent people who just want to be left alone to live their own lives and to raise their children in peace. They have no intent on harming others, no intent on stealing from others. Yes, I don't doubt there are some nasty Muslims but they are very much in the minority. Very much so. Should we condemn all Muslims in the same way we condemn (nearly) all Nazis? Nope. They are simply Australians who worship a different religion to the main. Just like Jews/Hintus/Buddhists/Shinto/etc. They have a right to believe what they believe. Nazis don't. They lost a massive war, which was waged to show the world's repugnance at what they were doing. Roll Eyes

You have utterly failed to show why nazis and Muslims should be treated differently.

The black flag of jihad is the muslim swastika. The jihad is are their SS. Islam, like Nazism, is a belief system that you can accept or reject. A peaceful Nazi still believes in a violent, supremacist ideology, just like a peaceful muslim.
Only apostate Muslims have shown moral courage and clarity.

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Reply #261 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:41pm

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:42pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:45am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2017 at 12:24am:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:19pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 11:02pm:

Are Nazis bad Brian?

Many are, Setanta.

Sort of like other groups with nasty ideologies?

Like any group. Some are nice, some are nasty, some are indifferent. The Nazis stood for nasty ideals and supported a nasty man and a nasty regime.

Islam is a nasty ideology from a nasty man, as is Nazism, yet you use Nazi as an insult, even though you acknowledge all were not bad people and get offended when others do the same with Islam. Why don't you support the moderate Nazis rather than label them as all the same?

As an "insult", really? Where do you get that idea from? The millions who died in WWII in Europe and North Africa and the Middle-East simply dropped dead because they chose to?

I am willing to acknowledge that some Nazis were honourable however, I rather suspect anyone who gave their allegiance to the crooked cross were interested in the same sort of things our own PHONies are - national aggrandisement, demeaning and even perhaps deporting or killing immigrants, taking their property, destroying their families, and so on.

In my experience, the over-whelming majority of Australian Muslims I have met have been honourable, well meaning, decent people who just want to be left alone to live their own lives and to raise their children in peace. They have no intent on harming others, no intent on stealing from others. Yes, I don't doubt there are some nasty Muslims but they are very much in the minority. Very much so. Should we condemn all Muslims in the same way we condemn (nearly) all Nazis? Nope. They are simply Australians who worship a different religion to the main. Just like Jews/Hintus/Buddhists/Shinto/etc. They have a right to believe what they believe. Nazis don't. They lost a massive war, which was waged to show the world's repugnance at what they were doing. Roll Eyes

Why should we put ourselves in harm's way for the sake of a few Muslims when they are openly waging jihad against the West? Let the ooeaceful muslim stay in their own muslim countries and reign in the supposed minority of nasties. Why do we have to import them wholesale? The skilled ones should be building up their iwn counties.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Unable to distinguish between the members of a small, violent part of Islam and the overwhelming majority of Muslims who are more terrified of them than of you? Tsk, tsk, Some Muslims are waging Jihad against the West. A infinitesimal minority. The overwhelming majority aren't nor don't intend to. The reason why Muslims are radicalised is because of Islamophobes like you, with your outright hatred and bigotry towards anybody who is different to you. Got your cattle-trucks already booked, Soren? Going to emulate those 300,000 other Danes who sided with the Nazis in WWII? Going to "Arbeit macht frei" all the Muslims? Roll Eyes

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 52950 Gender:	Re: "Allahu Akbar!" Reply #262 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:52pm It is not an iinfinitessimal minority, you stupid old collaborator. If it was the 'overwhelming majority's would have dealt with them already. But the 'majority's are collaborators like you. Enablers, accusers, encourages, sly supporters, eggers-on.
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Reply #263 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 2:24pm

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

It is not an iinfinitessimal minority, you stupid old collaborator.
If it was the 'overwhelming majority's would have dealt with them already. But the 'majority's are collaborators like you. Enablers, accusers, encourages, sly supporters, eggers-on.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, resorting to ad hominem yet again, Soren? I suppose this why Christian Terrorists were eliminated overnight from the Christian community is it? They weren't tolerated? Yeah, sure. No "crusades" against them, right? All the Christians were collaborators, just like the 300,000 Danes were with the Nazis, right? Roll Eyes

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Reply #264 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 5:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

It is not an iinfinitessimal minority, you stupid old collaborator.
If it was the 'overwhelming majority's would have dealt with them already. But the 'majority's are collaborators like you. Enablers, accusers, encourages, sly supporters, eggers-on.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, resorting to ad hominem yet again, Soren? I suppose this why Christian Terrorists were eliminated overnight from the Christian community is it? They weren't tolerated? Yeah, sure. No "crusades" against them, right? All the Christians were collaborators, just like the 300,000 Danes were with the Nazis, right? Roll Eyes

Where are the 'Christian terrorist', you silly old jihadi collaborator?

Or are you comparing the 1200s to the 21st century? Or just talking the usual random crap. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

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Reply #265 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 6:55pm

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

It is not an iinfinitessimal minority, you stupid old collaborator.
If it was the 'overwhelming majority's would have dealt with them already. But the 'majority's are collaborators like you. Enablers, accusers, encourages, sly supporters, eggers-on.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, resorting to ad hominem yet again, Soren? I suppose this why Christian Terrorists were eliminated overnight from the Christian community is it? They weren't tolerated? Yeah, sure. No "crusades" against them, right? All the Christians were collaborators, just like the 300,000 Danes were with the Nazis, right? Roll Eyes

Where are the 'Christian terrorist', you silly old jihadi collaborator?

Or are you comparing the 1200s to the 21st century? Or just talking the usual random crap. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Forgotten about the "Troubles" in Londonderry? How about the Balkan Wars in Yugoslavia? The Genocides in Rwanda and Barundi? all caused by Christian Terrorists... Tsk, tsk. You guilty for all of those are you? Then we have the Paedophilia. Yuck! Such a nasty crime and all against children. Never thought you Christians were that nasty... Roll Eyes

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Reply #266 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 7:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 6:55pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

It is not an iinfinitessimal minority, you stupid old collaborator.
If it was the 'overwhelming majority's would have dealt with them already. But the 'majority's are collaborators like you. Enablers, accusers, encourages, sly supporters, eggers-on.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, resorting to ad hominem yet again, Soren? I suppose this why Christian Terrorists were eliminated overnight from the Christian community is it? They weren't tolerated? Yeah, sure. No "crusades" against them, right? All the Christians were collaborators, just like the 300,000 Danes were with the Nazis, right? Roll Eyes

Where are the 'Christian terrorist', you silly old jihadi collaborator?

Or are you comparing the 1200s to the 21st century? Or just talking the usual random crap. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Forgotten about the "Troubles" in Londonderry? How about the Balkan Wars in Yugoslavia? The Genocides in Rwanda and Barundi? all caused by Christian Terrorists... Tsk, tsk. You guilty for all of those are you? Then we have the Paedophilia. Yuck! Such a nasty crime and all against children. Never thought you Christians were that nasty... Roll Eyes

Christians Rwanda? Wasn't that between African tribes. The Hutu and the Tutsi. Same deal in Burundi.

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Reply #267 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 7:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 6:55pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

It is not an iinfinitessimal minority, you stupid old collaborator.
If it was the 'overwhelming majority's would have dealt with them already. But the 'majority's are collaborators like you. Enablers, accusers, encourages, sly supporters, eggers-on.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, resorting to ad hominem yet again, Soren? I suppose this why Christian Terrorists were eliminated overnight from the Christian community is it? They weren't tolerated? Yeah, sure. No "crusades" against them, right? All the Christians were collaborators, just like the 300,000 Danes were with the Nazis, right? Roll Eyes

Where are the 'Christian terrorist', you silly old jihadi collaborator?

Or are you comparing the 1200s to the 21st century? Or just talking the usual random crap. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Forgotten about the "Troubles" in Londonderry? How about the Balkan Wars in Yugoslavia? The Genocides in Rwanda and Barundi? all caused by Christian Terrorists... Tsk, tsk. You guilty for all of those are you? Then we have the Paedophilia. Yuck! Such a nasty crime and all against children. Never thought you Christians were that nasty... Roll Eyes

You stupid bastard - which one of these has NOT been dealt with??

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Reply #268 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 9:33pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 7:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 6:55pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

It is not an iinfinitessimal minority, you stupid old collaborator.
If it was the 'overwhelming majority's would have dealt with them already. But the 'majority's are collaborators like you. Enablers, accusers, encourages, sly supporters, eggers-on.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, resorting to ad hominem yet again, Soren? I suppose this why Christian Terrorists were eliminated overnight from the Christian community is it? They weren't tolerated? Yeah, sure. No "crusades" against them, right? All the Christians were collaborators, just like the 300,000 Danes were with the Nazis, right? Roll Eyes

Where are the 'Christian terrorist', you silly old jihadi collaborator?

Or are you comparing the 1200s to the 21st century? Or just talking the usual random crap. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Forgotten about the "Troubles" in Londonderry? How about the Balkan Wars in Yugoslavia? The Genocides in Rwanda and Barundi? all caused by Christian Terrorists... Tsk, tsk. You guilty for all of those are you? Then we have the Paedophilia. Yuck! Such a nasty crime and all against children. Never thought you Christians were that nasty... Roll Eyes

Christians Rwanda? Wasn't that between African tribes. The Hutu and the Tutsi. Same deal in Burundi.

It was between the tribes, Hammer. Many which were Christian, it was fanned by the Christian clergy who preached that the minority tribe had to be eliminated from the pulpit and on the radio. Read up about it. Not a nice view of Christianity at all. Tsk. tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #269 - Dec 24^th, 2017 at 9:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 9:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 7:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 6:55pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 24^th, 2017 at 12:52pm:

It is not an iinfinitessimal minority, you stupid old collaborator.
If it was the 'overwhelming majority's would have dealt with them already. But the 'majority's are collaborators like you. Enablers, accusers, encourages, sly supporters, eggers-on.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, resorting to ad hominem yet again, Soren? I suppose this why Christian Terrorists were eliminated overnight from the Christian community is it? They weren't tolerated? Yeah, sure. No "crusades" against them, right? All the Christians were collaborators, just like the 300,000 Danes were with the Nazis, right? Roll Eyes

Where are the 'Christian terrorist', you silly old jihadi collaborator?

Or are you comparing the 1200s to the 21st century? Or just talking the usual random crap. Tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Forgotten about the "Troubles" in Londonderry? How about the Balkan Wars in Yugoslavia? The Genocides in Rwanda and Barundi? all caused by Christian Terrorists... Tsk, tsk. You guilty for all of those are you? Then we have the Paedophilia. Yuck! Such a nasty crime and all against children. Never thought you Christians were that nasty... Roll Eyes

Christians Rwanda? Wasn't that between African tribes. The Hutu and the Tutsi. Same deal in Burundi.

It was between the tribes, Hammer. Many which were Christian, it was fanned by the Christian clergy who preached that the minority tribe had to be eliminated from the pulpit and on the radio. Read up about it. Not a nice view of Christianity at all. Tsk. tsk. Roll Eyes

It wasn't about religion at all. The Tutsi minority held most of the power and wealth and the Hutu hated them for it. The Tutsi rule goes back to the Belgium's. It's old tribal hatreds. And the troubles is about British occupation in Northern Ireland. The Protestants being the ancestors of English settlers and the Catholics the original Irish inhabitants. One wants unification (Catholics) and the pommy Irish don't. It's about nationalism.

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