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Reply #165 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 2:43pm

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 10:54am:

a huge number of Arabs live and or work in Israel they always have done....

Actually, since the second Intifada, Palestinians, living in the Occupied Territories have been barred from being given jobs in Israel itself, proper, Cods. The Israelis did it to both punish the Palestinians and to improve their security, supposedly.

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how many Jews work or live in Palestine?.... Roll Eyes

Quite a few actually, Cods. You have the Israeli settlers who illegally occupy large swathes of the Occupied Territories West Bank. They both live and work there. Roll Eyes

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Reply #166 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 3:01pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 2:43pm:

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 10:54am:

a huge number of Arabs live and or work in Israel they always have done....

Actually, since the second Intifada, Palestinians, living in the Occupied Territories have been barred from being given jobs in Israel itself, proper, Cods.

You are confused Brian. Try reading what was actually posted: a huge number of Arabs live and or work in Israel they always have done....

Do you disagree with what was actually said?

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 2:40pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 15^th, 2017 at 10:23pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 15^th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

Do you agree that Israel is a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive regions on earth?

Freedom and democracy to whom, FD? Jews or Palestinians? I don't see the Palestinians benefiting from the supposed "freedom" and "democracy" that Israel represents. Do you? Roll Eyes

No Brian. Nor do the Saudis or Egyptians. Come to think of it, the Indonesians don't benefit much from our democracy either. Is this where you point out that you do not claim to understand the world?

Whereas you, with your omniscience and your higher mentality, understand it all, oh, so perfectly, hey, FD? Sorry, no one understands "the world" political/socially/academically/etc like you, do they? Tsk, tsk, we should all just bow down before you and worship your higher mentality, right?

Bugger off, FD, you're so full of it, it oozes out of all your orifices. I at least admit my ignorance and my non-understanding of some things. You, oh, no, you're just oh, so bloody perfect, right? Roll Eyes

You are full of convenient excuses for Muslims so that they are never responsible for their own actions or their own situation.

Lets try again for a straight answer eh? I hope this is not too confusing for you.

Do you agree that Israel is a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive regions on earth?

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Reply #167 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 3:25pm

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 3:01pm:

You are full of convenient excuses for Muslims so that they are never responsible for their own actions or their own situation.

Lets try again for a straight answer eh? I hope this is not too confusing for you.

Do you agree that Israel is a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive regions on earth?

Brian Brian Brian ... you and I were having exactly these conversations all of 10 years ago at the other place. Haven't you learnt anything since? Is your devotion to neurotic loyalties so crystalised that there is no further hope for you ever learning anything outside the 'moral-absolute' square you've long-since taken refuge in? Wouldn't it be kinder to let Freediver know that he's wasting his time with you just as someone would be trying to tame a zebra for riding?

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Reply #168 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 4:29pm

How can people work in Palestine when it doesn't exist bwian.
Why did you lie to cods bwian why didn't you tell her the truth.
There are no Palestinians bwian since there is no Palestinian state.
Why didn't you tell her that Jordon is the Arab State created from 70% of the British Mandate for Palestine which was originally to be the Jewish Homeland?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: "Allahu Akbar!" Reply #169 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 4:33pm hey bwian.... how accurate is this...
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: "Allahu Akbar!" Reply #170 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 4:34pm How ya going there bwian?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146200 Gender:	Re: "Allahu Akbar!" Reply #171 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 5:09pm freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 3:01pm: You are full of convenient excuses for Muslims so that they are never responsible for their own actions or their own situation. Actually, that describes you (and all the other Islamophobes). You blame Islam, and the Koran. Are you an apologist? I'm curious.
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Reply #172 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 5:44pm

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 3:01pm:

You are full of convenient excuses for Muslims so that they are never responsible for their own actions or their own situation.

Excuses? Nope. Convenient? Nope. Explanations which often have hard consequences for many different groups, yes. The Jews learnt early on, that knowledge was easily exportable but it meant that they engendered jealousy to many Gentiles. The Muslims have learnt, that with knowledge comes power. Guess what they are trying to do nowadays?

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Lets try again for a straight answer eh? I hope this is not too confusing for you.

Do you agree that Israel is a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive regions on earth?

Again, I ask, for whom, FD? Is it a beacon for the Palestinians or the Jews? Doesn't seem to be working out to well for the former, compared to the latter, now does it? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: "Allahu Akbar!" Reply #173 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 7:18pm You don't need excuses bwian you simply ignore the facts and lie...
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Reply #174 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 8:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 5:09pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 3:01pm:

You are full of convenient excuses for Muslims so that they are never responsible for their own actions or their own situation.

Actually, that describes you (and all the other Islamophobes).

You blame Islam, and the Koran.

Are you an apologist?

I'm curious.

Don't wanna say, hey?

Cunning.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17065 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: "Allahu Akbar!" Reply #175 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:57pm Grendel wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 7:26am: Hmmmm 1914, 1967 and 1948 still the bronze age really? Sorry I missed your point. I highlighted what I responding to, not that difficult.
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Reply #176 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 5:09pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 3:01pm:

You are full of convenient excuses for Muslims so that they are never responsible for their own actions or their own situation.

Actually, that describes you (and all the other Islamophobes).

You blame Islam, and the Koran.

Are you an apologist?

I'm curious.

No Greg, it describes you quite clearly, and several other closet Muzlims on this forum.

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Reply #177 - Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:58pm

issuevoter wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 5:09pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 3:01pm:

You are full of convenient excuses for Muslims so that they are never responsible for their own actions or their own situation.

Actually, that describes you (and all the other Islamophobes).

You blame Islam, and the Koran.

Are you an apologist?

I'm curious.

No

Yes.

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Reply #178 - Dec 17^th, 2017 at 7:39am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 5:44pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 3:01pm:

You are full of convenient excuses for Muslims so that they are never responsible for their own actions or their own situation.

Excuses? Nope. Convenient? Nope. Explanations which often have hard consequences for many different groups, yes. The Jews learnt early on, that knowledge was easily exportable but it meant that they engendered jealousy to many Gentiles. The Muslims have learnt, that with knowledge comes power. Guess what they are trying to do nowadays?

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Lets try again for a straight answer eh? I hope this is not too confusing for you.

Do you agree that Israel is a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive regions on earth?

Again, I ask, for whom, FD? Is it a beacon for the Palestinians or the Jews? Doesn't seem to be working out to well for the former, compared to the latter, now does it? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

For the Columbians? Who do you think Brian? Take a wild guess.

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Actually, that describes you (and all the other Islamophobes).

Brian provided a long list of excuses for the crapholes that Muslims live in. None of the blame lies with the people themselves.

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Excuses? Nope. Convenient? Nope. Explanations which often have hard consequences for many different groups, yes. The Jews learnt early on, that knowledge was easily exportable but it meant that they engendered jealousy to many Gentiles. The Muslims have learnt, that with knowledge comes power. Guess what they are trying to do nowadays?

When did they learn this Brian? Do you think they have known for 1400 years that knowledge is power, had every opportunity to acquire it, but somehow ended up backwards and ignorant?

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Reply #179 - Dec 17^th, 2017 at 2:24pm

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2017 at 7:39am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 5:44pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 3:01pm:

You are full of convenient excuses for Muslims so that they are never responsible for their own actions or their own situation.

Excuses? Nope. Convenient? Nope. Explanations which often have hard consequences for many different groups, yes. The Jews learnt early on, that knowledge was easily exportable but it meant that they engendered jealousy to many Gentiles. The Muslims have learnt, that with knowledge comes power. Guess what they are trying to do nowadays?

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Lets try again for a straight answer eh? I hope this is not too confusing for you.

Do you agree that Israel is a beacon of freedom and democracy in one of the most backwards and oppressive regions on earth?

Again, I ask, for whom, FD? Is it a beacon for the Palestinians or the Jews? Doesn't seem to be working out to well for the former, compared to the latter, now does it? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

For the Columbians? Who do you think Brian? Take a wild guess.

Columbians? Austrians? South Africans? Well, as I've said it doesn't appear to be working out too well for the Palestinians or even the Muslims living in Israel, now does it, FD? Tsk, tsk.

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Actually, that describes you (and all the other Islamophobes).

Brian provided a long list of excuses for the crapholes that Muslims live in. None of the blame lies with the people themselves.

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Excuses? Nope. Convenient? Nope. Explanations which often have hard consequences for many different groups, yes. The Jews learnt early on, that knowledge was easily exportable but it meant that they engendered jealousy to many Gentiles. The Muslims have learnt, that with knowledge comes power. Guess what they are trying to do nowadays?

When did they learn this Brian? Do you think they have known for 1400 years that knowledge is power, had every opportunity to acquire it, but somehow ended up backwards and ignorant?

The power of the book and the pen has only really come in the last 150 years, FD. Before that, it was the power of the sword which ruled the world. Roll Eyes

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