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Reply #105 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 5:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

I am holding Israel to the standard I hold all nations to - that of decency. They can conscript who they like but in failing to conscript the Palestinians, the Israelis, according to Moshe Dayan - their most senior General - made a grave mistake. A mistake they are now paying for. Roll Eyes

That's right Bwian, the Palestinians are not rioting because America accepts that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, no.

All these years Palestinians have been rioting because they wanted to be conscripted into the IDF and the perfidious Joooos wouldn't agree.
They want to serve the State of Israel, as everyone knows, but are not allowed. Tut tut, Bwian. Roll Eyes

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: "Allahu Akbar!" Reply #106 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 6:22pm Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 5:06pm: Tut tut, Bwian. It's supposed to be: "Tsk, tsk, Brian. "
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 52962 Gender:	Re: "Allahu Akbar!" Reply #107 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 6:36pm Berlin, December 2017. Death to the Jews. Not a blonde in sight. They all look like murderers. They are turning every Western city into Islamic hellholes.
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: "Allahu Akbar!" Reply #108 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 6:40pm Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 6:36pm: Berlin, December 2017. Death to the Jews. Not a blonde in sight. They all look like murderers. They are turning every Western city into Islamic hellholes. As Karnal would say: "Kill them."
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Reply #109 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:14pm:

Palestinians to be accorded the automatic Right of Return to either state as would be Jews as well.You do know that Israel would start getting terrorist attacks again Brian?

Why, Hammer? You seem to assume that the Palestinians are untrustworthy. I don't trust the Israelis as far as I can throw them. The Palestinians have done everything the Israelis wanted - they have recognised the State of Israel. They recognised it's right to exist. What have the Israelis done in return? NOTHING. Even so, the Palestinians have not engaged in another Interfada. There has been no general uprising against Israeli rule in the West Bank. There have been no new wave of bombing...

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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using memes. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #110 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 8:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:14pm:

Palestinians to be accorded the automatic Right of Return to either state as would be Jews as well.You do know that Israel would start getting terrorist attacks again Brian?

Why, Hammer? You seem to assume that the Palestinians are untrustworthy. I don't trust the Israelis as far as I can throw them. The Palestinians have done everything the Israelis wanted - they have recognised the State of Israel. They recognised it's right to exist. What have the Israelis done in return? NOTHING. Even so, the Palestinians have not engaged in another Interfada. There has been no general uprising against Israeli rule in the West Bank. There have been no new wave of bombing...

Bwian, tsk, tsk

Who represents the Palestinians? Who speaks for them? Hamas - elected by Palestinians? If so, you are lying (as usual).
The PLO? Unelected for a long time? Lying again.

Recognising Israel would be Islamic blasphemy, denial of the truth the Koran. Only a secular, non-Muslim power could do that.

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Reply #111 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 8:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:14pm:

Palestinians to be accorded the automatic Right of Return to either state as would be Jews as well.You do know that Israel would start getting terrorist attacks again Brian?

Why, Hammer? You seem to assume that the Palestinians are untrustworthy. I don't trust the Israelis as far as I can throw them. The Palestinians have done everything the Israelis wanted - they have recognised the State of Israel. They recognised it's right to exist. What have the Israelis done in return? NOTHING. Even so, the Palestinians have not engaged in another Interfada. There has been no general uprising against Israeli rule in the West Bank. There have been no new wave of bombing...

The jews did get a load of people blown to bits when they were more integrated Brian. The middle east is more unstable than ever. It would be worse. I don't believe in jewish expansion but I do see the need to keep them separated. There's no other option.

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Reply #112 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:42pm

Brian Ross Reply #79 - Yesterday at 4:17pm

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Immaterial, Moses. Even the Israelis have to abide by international law and at least give it lip service.

When they create a true, multi-ethnic/multi-religious Multicultural state and accord the Palestinians the same rights as the Zionists, then you might have a point. The problem is, they haven't and are unlikely to. Tsk, tsk. the Jewish right to control Israel and Palestine is based upon the force of arms, not the force of God. Without Uncle Sugar there, propping their regime up, they would turn to one of the other great powers - Russia or China in the blink of an eye and transform their society to some other form just to please them.

They are bad occupiers. They are ethnically cleansing the region of their cousins, the Palestinians. They should be ashamed of what they have done and what they are doing. Tsk, tsk.

Do you know of any muslim state / country which abides by all of the above?

The Jews could model the new Jerusalem on this mystical muslim kingdom couldn't they?

Ah well so much for dreams, material reality states that the Jews are in control of their most sacred site, beleaguered by a mob of blood crazed muslims who all have a religious duty to kill Jews to get into allahs' paradise and claim their share of houris and little boys.

Now I certainly don't expect the Jews to be so stupid as to place themselves in mortal danger, to appease muslim nutters who will massacre them in order to obey muhammad / allah.

The Jews only aspire to being in the promised land they are not into world domination, muslims are.

The Jews don't want everybody to join Judaism, conversely muslims are instructed to kill non believers until all religion is for allah.

Like I've said a hundred times before, the Jews have got it and they have a very legitimate claim to it, Jews are so much more deserving of it than any muslim on this earth, muslims are a world wide threat, Jews are not.

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Reply #113 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:45pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 11:25am:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 12:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 11^th, 2017 at 5:12pm:

Israel, where are your Palestinians? There used to be how many Palestinians living in the Occupied Territories before Israel occupied them? Where are they now, I wonder? Who's armed forces went door-to-door, demanding that the inhabitants leave or face massacre? Who's armed forces massacred Palestinians?

Soren, there are points and counter-points, neither sides' hands are clean in this regard. Be they Israeli or Palestinian or Arab. Now, we can dwell excessively on the crimes of the past or instead we can consider the future of a two state solution. The Israelis won't talk to the Palestinians, despite the Palestinians dancing through hoops to satisfy their demands on recognition and existence of Israel as a separate state. Israel doesn't want to talk about the right of return for the millions of Palestinians that it has expelled over the last sixty years. The Palestinians won't talk about Jerusalem except as their capital alone. Neither side is willing to talk. Yet you only side with the Israelis. I wonder, do you know what the Ultra-Orthodox Jews think of Gentiles? Really? Roll Eyes

Israel has a large population of Arab Muslims. They have been there from the beginning. They have more rights and freedoms in Israel than in any other Arab country.

But they are still treated as second-class citizens, Soren, by the Jewish Israelis... They are not subject to conscription in the Israeli Defence Forces. They are not allowed to serve. Their property rights are not respected. Nice sort of citizenship...

Are you trying to disagree with me Brian?

If I was you I'd say no, Brian.

Freeedom, innit.

Ten ruppi give him, he's from Pakistan. He dont know nuffin better.

Why do you say I'm from Pakistan, dear boy?

I'm curious.

Freeedom, innit.

Upholding your democratic right to tell porkies again, are you?

Which is it, old boy - stupid or mendacious?

you do it to me babe.

Oh, I know.

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Re: "Allahu Akbar!"
Reply #114 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:47pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 11:25am:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 12:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 11^th, 2017 at 5:12pm:

Israel, where are your Palestinians? There used to be how many Palestinians living in the Occupied Territories before Israel occupied them? Where are they now, I wonder? Who's armed forces went door-to-door, demanding that the inhabitants leave or face massacre? Who's armed forces massacred Palestinians?

Soren, there are points and counter-points, neither sides' hands are clean in this regard. Be they Israeli or Palestinian or Arab. Now, we can dwell excessively on the crimes of the past or instead we can consider the future of a two state solution. The Israelis won't talk to the Palestinians, despite the Palestinians dancing through hoops to satisfy their demands on recognition and existence of Israel as a separate state. Israel doesn't want to talk about the right of return for the millions of Palestinians that it has expelled over the last sixty years. The Palestinians won't talk about Jerusalem except as their capital alone. Neither side is willing to talk. Yet you only side with the Israelis. I wonder, do you know what the Ultra-Orthodox Jews think of Gentiles? Really? Roll Eyes

Israel has a large population of Arab Muslims. They have been there from the beginning. They have more rights and freedoms in Israel than in any other Arab country.

But they are still treated as second-class citizens, Soren, by the Jewish Israelis... They are not subject to conscription in the Israeli Defence Forces. They are not allowed to serve. Their property rights are not respected. Nice sort of citizenship...

Are you trying to disagree with me Brian?

If I was you I'd say no, Brian.

Freeedom, innit.

Ten ruppi give him, he's from Pakistan. He dont know nuffin better.

Why do you say I'm from Pakistan, dear boy?

I'm curious.

Freeedom, innit.

Upholding your democratic right to tell porkies again, are you?

Which is it, old boy - stupid or mendacious?

you do it to me babe.

Oh, I know.

Freeedom, innit.

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Re: "Allahu Akbar!"
Reply #115 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:50pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 11:25am:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 12:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 11^th, 2017 at 5:12pm:

Israel, where are your Palestinians? There used to be how many Palestinians living in the Occupied Territories before Israel occupied them? Where are they now, I wonder? Who's armed forces went door-to-door, demanding that the inhabitants leave or face massacre? Who's armed forces massacred Palestinians?

Soren, there are points and counter-points, neither sides' hands are clean in this regard. Be they Israeli or Palestinian or Arab. Now, we can dwell excessively on the crimes of the past or instead we can consider the future of a two state solution. The Israelis won't talk to the Palestinians, despite the Palestinians dancing through hoops to satisfy their demands on recognition and existence of Israel as a separate state. Israel doesn't want to talk about the right of return for the millions of Palestinians that it has expelled over the last sixty years. The Palestinians won't talk about Jerusalem except as their capital alone. Neither side is willing to talk. Yet you only side with the Israelis. I wonder, do you know what the Ultra-Orthodox Jews think of Gentiles? Really? Roll Eyes

Israel has a large population of Arab Muslims. They have been there from the beginning. They have more rights and freedoms in Israel than in any other Arab country.

But they are still treated as second-class citizens, Soren, by the Jewish Israelis... They are not subject to conscription in the Israeli Defence Forces. They are not allowed to serve. Their property rights are not respected. Nice sort of citizenship...

Are you trying to disagree with me Brian?

If I was you I'd say no, Brian.

Freeedom, innit.

Ten ruppi give him, he's from Pakistan. He dont know nuffin better.

Why do you say I'm from Pakistan, dear boy?

I'm curious.

Freeedom, innit.

Upholding your democratic right to tell porkies again, are you?

Which is it, old boy - stupid or mendacious?

you do it to me babe.

Oh, I know.

Freeedom, innit.

I've never felt freer.

You?

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Re: "Allahu Akbar!"
Reply #116 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:51pm

YOU NEED TO STOP MUDDYING THE WATERS BWIAN AND FACE SOME FACTS...

Tsk, tsk, tsk...
One more time bwian....
one more time to expose your ignorance.

Really bwian.

Isn't it true there is no State of Palestine?
Isn't it true there are no real Palestinians?
Isn't it true that the BRITISH MANDATE FOR PALESTINE was divided up?
Isn't it true that most of it is now Jordan an Arab nation?
Is this not a map of the Ottoman Empire before the war and the dividing up of the Empire?

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Reply #117 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:53pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 11:25am:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 12:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 11^th, 2017 at 5:12pm:

Israel, where are your Palestinians? There used to be how many Palestinians living in the Occupied Territories before Israel occupied them? Where are they now, I wonder? Who's armed forces went door-to-door, demanding that the inhabitants leave or face massacre? Who's armed forces massacred Palestinians?

Soren, there are points and counter-points, neither sides' hands are clean in this regard. Be they Israeli or Palestinian or Arab. Now, we can dwell excessively on the crimes of the past or instead we can consider the future of a two state solution. The Israelis won't talk to the Palestinians, despite the Palestinians dancing through hoops to satisfy their demands on recognition and existence of Israel as a separate state. Israel doesn't want to talk about the right of return for the millions of Palestinians that it has expelled over the last sixty years. The Palestinians won't talk about Jerusalem except as their capital alone. Neither side is willing to talk. Yet you only side with the Israelis. I wonder, do you know what the Ultra-Orthodox Jews think of Gentiles? Really? Roll Eyes

Israel has a large population of Arab Muslims. They have been there from the beginning. They have more rights and freedoms in Israel than in any other Arab country.

But they are still treated as second-class citizens, Soren, by the Jewish Israelis... They are not subject to conscription in the Israeli Defence Forces. They are not allowed to serve. Their property rights are not respected. Nice sort of citizenship...

Are you trying to disagree with me Brian?

If I was you I'd say no, Brian.

Freeedom, innit.

Ten ruppi give him, he's from Pakistan. He dont know nuffin better.

Why do you say I'm from Pakistan, dear boy?

I'm curious.

Freeedom, innit.

Upholding your democratic right to tell porkies again, are you?

Which is it, old boy - stupid or mendacious?

you do it to me babe.

Oh, I know.

Freeedom, innit.

I've never felt freer.

You?

nope. society is a prison.

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Reply #118 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:56pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 11:25am:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 12:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 11^th, 2017 at 5:12pm:

Israel, where are your Palestinians? There used to be how many Palestinians living in the Occupied Territories before Israel occupied them? Where are they now, I wonder? Who's armed forces went door-to-door, demanding that the inhabitants leave or face massacre? Who's armed forces massacred Palestinians?

Soren, there are points and counter-points, neither sides' hands are clean in this regard. Be they Israeli or Palestinian or Arab. Now, we can dwell excessively on the crimes of the past or instead we can consider the future of a two state solution. The Israelis won't talk to the Palestinians, despite the Palestinians dancing through hoops to satisfy their demands on recognition and existence of Israel as a separate state. Israel doesn't want to talk about the right of return for the millions of Palestinians that it has expelled over the last sixty years. The Palestinians won't talk about Jerusalem except as their capital alone. Neither side is willing to talk. Yet you only side with the Israelis. I wonder, do you know what the Ultra-Orthodox Jews think of Gentiles? Really? Roll Eyes

Israel has a large population of Arab Muslims. They have been there from the beginning. They have more rights and freedoms in Israel than in any other Arab country.

But they are still treated as second-class citizens, Soren, by the Jewish Israelis... They are not subject to conscription in the Israeli Defence Forces. They are not allowed to serve. Their property rights are not respected. Nice sort of citizenship...

Are you trying to disagree with me Brian?

If I was you I'd say no, Brian.

Freeedom, innit.

Ten ruppi give him, he's from Pakistan. He dont know nuffin better.

Why do you say I'm from Pakistan, dear boy?

I'm curious.

Freeedom, innit.

Upholding your democratic right to tell porkies again, are you?

Which is it, old boy - stupid or mendacious?

you do it to me babe.

Oh, I know.

Freeedom, innit.

I've never felt freer.

You?

nope. society is a prison.

Yes, Homo, but when it's just the two of us, doing it, living it, loving it, we can forget all that, no?

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Re: "Allahu Akbar!"
Reply #119 - Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:58pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:56pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:47pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 13^th, 2017 at 11:25am:

Frank wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:42pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2017 at 12:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 11^th, 2017 at 5:12pm:

Israel, where are your Palestinians? There used to be how many Palestinians living in the Occupied Territories before Israel occupied them? Where are they now, I wonder? Who's armed forces went door-to-door, demanding that the inhabitants leave or face massacre? Who's armed forces massacred Palestinians?

Soren, there are points and counter-points, neither sides' hands are clean in this regard. Be they Israeli or Palestinian or Arab. Now, we can dwell excessively on the crimes of the past or instead we can consider the future of a two state solution. The Israelis won't talk to the Palestinians, despite the Palestinians dancing through hoops to satisfy their demands on recognition and existence of Israel as a separate state. Israel doesn't want to talk about the right of return for the millions of Palestinians that it has expelled over the last sixty years. The Palestinians won't talk about Jerusalem except as their capital alone. Neither side is willing to talk. Yet you only side with the Israelis. I wonder, do you know what the Ultra-Orthodox Jews think of Gentiles? Really? Roll Eyes

Israel has a large population of Arab Muslims. They have been there from the beginning. They have more rights and freedoms in Israel than in any other Arab country.

But they are still treated as second-class citizens, Soren, by the Jewish Israelis... They are not subject to conscription in the Israeli Defence Forces. They are not allowed to serve. Their property rights are not respected. Nice sort of citizenship...

Are you trying to disagree with me Brian?

If I was you I'd say no, Brian.

Freeedom, innit.

Ten ruppi give him, he's from Pakistan. He dont know nuffin better.

Why do you say I'm from Pakistan, dear boy?

I'm curious.

Freeedom, innit.

Upholding your democratic right to tell porkies again, are you?

Which is it, old boy - stupid or mendacious?

you do it to me babe.

Oh, I know.

Freeedom, innit.

I've never felt freer.

You?

nope. society is a prison.

Yes, Homo, but when it's just the two of us, doing it, living it, loving it, we can forget all that, no?

I'm not a apathetic person dear.

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