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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #105 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:23am

freediver wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 9:10pm:

There is a long list of absurd claims whose origins Gandalf refuses to reveal. Does he make this crap up himself? Or is he just parroting his idiot Imam? And why does he keep doing it despite being wrong over and over again?

Yes FD, we should instead nod in reverence to your large collection of sage claims - which are so far from absurd. I small sample from this discussion:

1. weather and/or drought are synonyms for famine - which can't possibly have any other cause such as rounding up all the farmers into forced labour leaving the crops to rot.

2. Europeans who arrived in the new world to rape and pillage and enslave natives were in fact there to cure diseases spread by the dastardly arabs.

3. blaming Europeans for spreading diseases while they raped and pillaged there way through the new world is WAAAAAAAAACIST

4. the Spanish can't be blamed for spreading disease in the Americas while they raped and pillaged and enslaved the population - since they were originally attempting to find a way to Asia because the muslims blocked the land route.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #106 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:23am

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 9:32pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 9:10pm:

There is a long list of absurd claims whose origins Gandalf refuses to reveal. Does he make this crap up himself? Or is he just parroting his idiot Imam? And why does he keep doing it despite being wrong over and over again?

Do you mean like the claim that Islam kicked off the dark ages, or that Muslims are responsible for killing off the Aborigines, or that Iraq is the next South Korea?

Good point, FD. G never revealed the origin of those claims.

You?

Islam is the dark ages.

It spreads regression and stupidity and backwardness, everywhere it appears.
It never brings anything positive, it never brings any improvement. Islam is darkness.
It is the embodiment of the dark age, everywhere it appears.

Always absolutely never ever.

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #107 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:27am

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:23am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:19am:

Gandalf- and think about who would be to blame for the spread of diseases brought by those rapist and pillagers while they raped and pillaged.

Diseases are spread loads of ways . Do you blame your kids when you catch the flu off one?

FD blames Islam. You?

Human nature. It's easy to pick the peanuts out of history when we are living in a totally different world. Everybody raped in pillaged back in the day. Some just did it bigger and better than others.

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #108 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:31am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 12:32am:

Justsayno wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 3:34pm:

Spanish conquistadors fresh from ethnically cleansing Spain of muslims and jews

Obviously you failed history in your madrasah, but it did give me a good laugh.

Err, the Spanish Reconquista only officially ended in 1492, after the fall of the last Islamic state in Iberia at Granada to the expanding Christian kingdoms. Columbus first crossed the Atlantic in guess which year? 1492. Cortez first landed in Central America in 1519. What were you saying about failing History again? Roll Eyes

Right. And when they got their territory back, guess what they did.

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Most Muslims and Jews were forced to either convert to Christianity or leave Spain and Portugal and have their assets seized.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Reconquista

Freeedom, innit.

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #109 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:33am

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:27am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:23am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:19am:

Gandalf- and think about who would be to blame for the spread of diseases brought by those rapist and pillagers while they raped and pillaged.

Diseases are spread loads of ways . Do you blame your kids when you catch the flu off one?

FD blames Islam. You?

Human nature.

Ah - you don't blame Islam. You blame humans.

Thanks for your answer, Homo.

FD? Would you care to respond?

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #110 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:34am

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:27am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:23am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:19am:

Gandalf- and think about who would be to blame for the spread of diseases brought by those rapist and pillagers while they raped and pillaged.

Diseases are spread loads of ways . Do you blame your kids when you catch the flu off one?

FD blames Islam. You?

Human nature.

Ah - you don't blame Islam. You blame humans.

Thanks for your answer, Homo.

FD? Would you care to respond?

But it's unwise to not realise the part religion plays in raping and pillaging.

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #111 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:42am

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:34am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:27am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:23am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:19am:

Gandalf- and think about who would be to blame for the spread of diseases brought by those rapist and pillagers while they raped and pillaged.

Diseases are spread loads of ways . Do you blame your kids when you catch the flu off one?

FD blames Islam. You?

Human nature.

Ah - you don't blame Islam. You blame humans.

Thanks for your answer, Homo.

FD? Would you care to respond?

But it's unwise to not realise the part religion plays in raping and pillaging.

But it's crucial to understand the politics that drive the part religion plays.

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #112 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:45am

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:42am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:34am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:27am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:23am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:19am:

Gandalf- and think about who would be to blame for the spread of diseases brought by those rapist and pillagers while they raped and pillaged.

Diseases are spread loads of ways . Do you blame your kids when you catch the flu off one?

FD blames Islam. You?

Human nature.

Ah - you don't blame Islam. You blame humans.

Thanks for your answer, Homo.

FD? Would you care to respond?

But it's unwise to not realise the part religion plays in raping and pillaging.

But it's crucial to understand the politics that drive the part religion plays.

It's all intertwined.

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #113 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:49am

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:31am:

Right. And when they got their territory back, guess what they did.

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Most Muslims and Jews were forced to either convert to Christianity or leave Spain and Portugal and have their assets seized.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Reconquista

Freeedom, innit.

And naturally they went on to rape and pillage and enslave and kill millions in the Americas.

Its only fair - after all those dastardly muslims blocked their land route to Asia.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #114 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 9:14am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:49am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:31am:

Right. And when they got their territory back, guess what they did.

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Most Muslims and Jews were forced to either convert to Christianity or leave Spain and Portugal and have their assets seized.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Reconquista

Freeedom, innit.

And naturally they went on to rape and pillage and enslave and kill millions in the Americas.

Its only fair - after all those dastardly muslims blocked their land route to Asia.

Not blocked, G, taxed.

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In 1453... the Ottomans took Constantinople and so the Byzantine Empire was no more. Now in control of the sole spice trade route that existed at the time, the Ottoman Empire was in a favorable position to charge hefty taxes on merchandise bound for the west. The Western Europeans, not wanting to be dependent on an expansionist, non-Christian power for the lucrative commerce with the east, set out to find an alternate sea route around Africa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_trade#Age_of_European_Discovery:_finding_a_n...

But it wasn't just the Muselman, it was the cunning Venetians.

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The Republic of Venice had become a formidable power, and a key player in the Eastern spice trade.[16] Other powers, in an attempt to break the Venetian hold on spice trade, began to build up maritime capability.

It all amounted to the tinted Muselman taking the trade routes off decent white Venetian people.

Typical.

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #115 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 12:36pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:23am:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 9:32pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 9:10pm:

There is a long list of absurd claims whose origins Gandalf refuses to reveal. Does he make this crap up himself? Or is he just parroting his idiot Imam? And why does he keep doing it despite being wrong over and over again?

Do you mean like the claim that Islam kicked off the dark ages, or that Muslims are responsible for killing off the Aborigines, or that Iraq is the next South Korea?

Good point, FD. G never revealed the origin of those claims.

You?

Islam is the dark ages.

It spreads regression and stupidity and backwardness, everywhere it appears.
It never brings anything positive, it never brings any improvement. Islam is darkness.
It is the embodiment of the dark age, everywhere it appears.

Always absolutely never ever.

So has Islam improved your life, Kameeeel, ever?? How has it improved anyone's life ? How is Australia or any Western country better for having imported Islam?

You have never ever explained, grinning Paki fool. No 10 rupee for you.

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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #116 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 12:47pm

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 12:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 8:23am:

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 9:32pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 21^st, 2017 at 9:10pm:

There is a long list of absurd claims whose origins Gandalf refuses to reveal. Does he make this crap up himself? Or is he just parroting his idiot Imam? And why does he keep doing it despite being wrong over and over again?

Do you mean like the claim that Islam kicked off the dark ages, or that Muslims are responsible for killing off the Aborigines, or that Iraq is the next South Korea?

Good point, FD. G never revealed the origin of those claims.

You?

Islam is the dark ages.

It spreads regression and stupidity and backwardness, everywhere it appears.
It never brings anything positive, it never brings any improvement. Islam is darkness.
It is the embodiment of the dark age, everywhere it appears.

Always absolutely never ever.

So has Islam improved your life, Kameeeel, ever?? How has it improved anyone's life ? How is Australia or any Western country better for having imported Islam?

You have never ever explained, grinning Paki fool. No 10 rupee for you.

And I can never ever explain, old boy. Islam has contributed as much to my life as Sikhism, Zoroastrianism or Hare Krishaism - I.e, zilch.

But it obviously contributes something to Muslims, Sikhs, Zoroastrians and Hare Krishnas, ja?

As for Lutherans, well. Gott mit uns, nein?

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam Reply #117 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 2:37pm islam = global religious terrorism islam = millions of fleeing muslims who demand we all yield to the insanity of a moon god death cult.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98973	Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam Reply #118 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 2:51pm moses wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 2:37pm: islam = global religious terrorism islam = millions of fleeing muslims who demand we all yield to the insanity of a moon god death cult. Always absolutely never ever.
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Re: European pillaging- we blame the weather and Islam
Reply #119 - Dec 22^nd, 2017 at 6:21pm

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And I'm blaming Europeans collectively now am I?

Here it is again for you Gandalf:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2017 at 1:33pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 21^st, 2017 at 12:12pm:

Gandalf can you explain for us your theory on blaming racial groups for the spread of disease?

My theory is that when a group of people (you can call them a 'race' if you like) invade a defenseless nation of people in order to rape and pillage its natural resources, and enslave the population, they are to "blame" for any diseases that they bring and spread (deliberately or not) amongst the natives.

Not to be confused with the scenario where diseases spread as a result of friendly traders making contact with natives in good faith and instigating trade based on mutual respect.

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