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Reply #15 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:13pm
 
car manufacturing was never going to win as long as the majority of the workers formed part of the labor voter base while coalition is in government.
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Reply #16 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:17pm
 
FTA's and an incompetent liberal government killed the car industry. They sold out Australian manufacturers just so they could get a headline about a FTA.
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Reply #17 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:40pm
 
I don't think you can honestly say "Coalition to close Australian car industry today" any more than you can say Labor did.
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Reply #18 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:04pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
I don't think you can honestly say "Coalition to close Australian car industry today" any more than you can say Labor did.


no doubt about it, coalition closed them down. It's not even up for debate.
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Reply #19 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:16pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
I don't think you can honestly say "Coalition to close Australian car industry today" any more than you can say Labor did.

What are the contents of the China, Japan and Korea FTA's?

Who was in Parliament daring the car makers to make a decision, just before they announced closure?

The Liberals are standing over the body of the car industry with the blood-stained axe in their hands.
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Reply #20 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 7:43am
 
Holden a( subsidiary of General Motors) ships it's production to Asia in order to take advantage of cheap labour and it's the Coalition's fault?
Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Reply #21 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 7:48am
 
National Disgrace: LNP force Holden to close after 150 years   Sad
20 October 2017


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ACTU President Ged Kearney national disgrace Holden closure

Today, Australia’s last major car manufacturing plant closes its doors – putting the final nail in the coffin of an industry that has employed hundreds of thousands of Australians.

Holden began in Adelaide over 150 years ago, and is an Australian institution that has employed thousands of workers, yet it is also part of an industry that successive coalition governments chose to walk away from.

The decision to abandon an industry which was a source of good, steady jobs for generations, is devastating.

The loss of jobs as well as the ability to train and employ highly skilled works in an international industry will be widely felt.

The Australian Council of Trade Unions condemns the Turnbull Government in the strongest possible terms for this short sighted and damaging decision.

For a sitting Government to allow the collapse and closure of an industry that has formed part of the backbone of our nation is a slight against not only industry workers, but all Australian working people.

Quotes attributable to ACTU President Ged Kearney:

“Today is a sad day for the workers of Holden’s Elizabeth factory. These workers have been abandoned by a Government clinging to broken neo-liberal ideology.”

“Holden and the car industry have been a major part of Australian culture, providing jobs and skills to hundreds of thousands of working Australians for generations.”

“Workers in our automotive manufacturing sector have been abandoned by successive coalition governments. The way they have been treated is cruel and negligent.”

“The Turnbull Government’s decision to desert our car industry takes our entire country backwards. The loss of jobs and industry is devastating to our country and our economy.”

“We stand with all the workers facing an uncertain future. We will support them, help them retrain, and become reemployed. We will not abandon these hard working Australians.”

“The Turnbull Government urgently needs to come up with a proper plan to support the future of manufacturing and working people in Australia.”

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Reply #22 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 9:58am
 
Bam wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 6:06pm:
Hoss wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
HI ALL

The car industry never was a win situation but! it certainly produced thousands of subsidiary jobs?

Cool Cool

Those supplier jobs were important. Tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs that are now going to be lost.

The subsidies were far less than the amount of the dole that is now going to have to be paid out for these lost jobs, along with the billions of lost tax revenue.


Yes all because we were funneling money into businesses that were not Australian and had no allegiance to this country. It was a very bad business decision right from the start Sad
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Reply #23 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 10:04am
 
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Well this Liberal government has managed to achieve something that no other Australian government could.

Closing the Australian car industry I sure hope them and their supporters are proud.
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Reply #24 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 10:58am
 
The board, senior executives, major shareholders and financiers have achieved a major miracle...selling out Australian workers for profit while convincing the weak minded that it's the government's fault.
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Reply #25 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 11:39am
 
Bam wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:16pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
I don't think you can honestly say "Coalition to close Australian car industry today" any more than you can say Labor did.

What are the contents of the China, Japan and Korea FTA's?

Who was in Parliament daring the car makers to make a decision, just before they announced closure?

The Liberals are standing over the body of the car industry with the blood-stained axe in their hands.

I think you will find I'm right.
Labor was in government state and federal for closures and circumstances too you know.
Unions impact wages and working conditions.
Just try to be more honest eh.
CEOs, Boards vested overseas interests that actually own the companies etc...

Oh and John...  just shut up you troll. Cheesy
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Reply #26 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 1:20pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 11:39am:
Bam wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:16pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
I don't think you can honestly say "Coalition to close Australian car industry today" any more than you can say Labor did.

What are the contents of the China, Japan and Korea FTA's?

Who was in Parliament daring the car makers to make a decision, just before they announced closure?

The Liberals are standing over the body of the car industry with the blood-stained axe in their hands.

I think you will find I'm right.
Labor was in government state and federal for closures and circumstances too you know.
Unions impact wages and working conditions.
Just try to be more honest eh.
CEOs, Boards vested overseas interests that actually own the companies etc...

Oh and John...  just shut up you troll. Cheesy


you haven't got a clue goose.

Tell me, is our auto industry more unionised than Germany's? Yet there's is thriving .... Cheesy Cheesy

I'll give you three guesses what their government wasn't stupid enough to do that our LIBERAL govt. was?
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Reply #27 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 1:29pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 10:58am:
The board, senior executives, major shareholders and financiers have achieved a major miracle...selling out Australian workers for profit while convincing the weak minded that it's the government's fault.


Well the government did cut back their grants and tell them to p1ss off if they don't like it ? A week later they were packing their bags but that was just bad luck or a coincidence ?
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Reply #28 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 1:38pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 1:20pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 11:39am:
Bam wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:16pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
I don't think you can honestly say "Coalition to close Australian car industry today" any more than you can say Labor did.

What are the contents of the China, Japan and Korea FTA's?

Who was in Parliament daring the car makers to make a decision, just before they announced closure?

The Liberals are standing over the body of the car industry with the blood-stained axe in their hands.

I think you will find I'm right.
Labor was in government state and federal for closures and circumstances too you know.
Unions impact wages and working conditions.
Just try to be more honest eh.
CEOs, Boards vested overseas interests that actually own the companies etc...

Oh and John...  just shut up you troll. Cheesy


you haven't got a clue goose.

Tell me, is our auto industry more unionised than Germany's? Yet there's is thriving .... Cheesy Cheesy

I'll give you three guesses what their government wasn't stupid enough to do that our LIBERAL govt. was?

It's a bigger industry than ours isn't it... more cars sold globally, sits in the middle of Europe, cheaper to freight goods to markets, then common market, then the EU...  4 times our population nationally, more automated etc, etc, etc....  the list goes on and on and on...    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #29 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 1:59pm
 
Autoworkers average salaries globally (2015).

China

Annual production (2015): 21 million
Estimated annual salary: $10,836 (£8,729)
GDP per head: $8,000 (£6,400)

Japan

Annual production (2015): 7.8 million
Estimated annual salary: $31,320 (£25,200)
GDP per head: $36,000 (£29,000)

Germany

Annual production (2015): 5.7 million
Estimated annual salary: $69,000 (£55,600)
GDP per head: $48,000 (£38,600)

USA

Annual production (2015): 4.1 million
Estimated annual salary: $51,000 (£41,000)
GDP per head: $54,000 (£43,400)

South Korea

Annual production (2015): 4.1 million
Estimated annual salary: $80,000 (£64,400)
GDP per head: $28,000 (£22,500)

India

Annual production (2015): 3.3 million
Estimated annual salary: $2,275 (£1,830)
GDP per head: $1,600 (£1,200)

Spain

Annual production (2015): 2.2 million
Estimated annual salary: $46,700 (£37,600)
GDP per head: $30,000 (£24,100)

Brazil

Annual production (2015): 2 million
Estimated annual salary: $12,800 (£10,300)
GDP per head: $12,000 (£9,600)

Mexico

Annual production (2015): 1.9 million
Estimated annual salary: $6,240 (£5,000)
GDP per head: $10,000 (£8,000)

UK

Annual production (2015): 1.5 million
Est. annual salary: $37,000 (£39,800)
GDP per head: $47,000 (£37,800)

France

Annual production (2015): 1.5 million
Estimated annual salary: $76,600 (£61,800)
GDP per head: $43,000 (£34,600)

Czech Republic

Annual production (2015): 1.2 million
Estimated annual salary: $20,600 (£16,500)
GDP per head: $19,000 (£15,200)

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