Australian Politics Forum - Abbott's Speech

John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Speech - good or bad. Reply #15 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 6:49pm Grendel wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 6:40pm: pretty long speech... can't all be lies... right? this is abbott you're talking about, of course it's all lies.
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oh dear Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 715 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Speech - good or bad. Reply #16 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 6:57pm I wonder why climate reporters were denied access to this speech.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Speech - good or bad. Reply #17 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:14pm Personally I'd hope never to hear or read anymore of your crap ever again... Never ever... Innit.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Speech - good or bad. Reply #18 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:14pm John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 6:49pm: Grendel wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 6:40pm: pretty long speech... can't all be lies... right? this is abbott you're talking about, of course it's all lies. Then post 1 Johnboy, cant be that hard now can it.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Speech - good or bad. Reply #19 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:15pm oh dear wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 6:57pm: I wonder why climate reporters were denied access to this speech. You can prove that somehow right. I mean there was negative reaction to his speech from the usual suspects right away... hard to do if not reported right?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Speech - good or bad. Reply #20 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:17pm So far Stone and Shanahan are right lots of negative reaction but all aimed at Abbott and not a word about his speech. Oh except the "volcano and goat" reaction.
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Reply #21 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:19pm

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In Australia, we’ve had ten years of disappointing government. It’s not just the churn of prime ministers that now rivals Italy’s, the internal divisions and the policy confusion that followed a quarter century of strong government under Bob Hawke and John Howard.

Wonder if Tony understands that he was a major contributor to that poor government ?

This part was correct.

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Reply #22 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:23pm

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We still accept the golden rule of human conduct: to treat others as we would have them treat us – or to use the Gospel formula to “love your neighbour as you love yourself” – but we’re running on empty.

This does not seem to be the type of thing that kick them when they are down and then kick them again Tony would do. He sure loves those boat people. I doubt he or anyone would want to be treated like he treated them?

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Reply #23 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:29pm

The first page of the speech was generic and not too bad if hard to associate with what we know about Abbott's actual performance.

The 5 following pages of climate rant would qualify as rubbish. Mostly misquoted and exaggerated facts wrapped in utter BS with just enough close to true to mask it a bit and make parts sound plausible if you didn't know Tony.

Time I will never get back.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Abbott's Speech - good or bad. Reply #24 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:50pm Grendel wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:14pm: Then post 1 Johnboy what part of ALL was difficult?
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Reply #25 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:54pm

Then there’s the evidence that higher concentrations of carbon dioxide (which is a plant food after all) are actually greening the planet and helping to lift agricultural yields. In most countries, far more people die in cold snaps than in heat waves, so a gradual lift in global temperatures, especially if it’s accompanied by more prosperity and more capacity to adapt to change, might even be beneficial.

Global warming is beneficial - Idiot.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62328 Here Gender:	Re: Abbott's Speech - good or bad. Reply #26 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:56pm More than 100 years of photography at Manly Beach in my electorate does not suggest that sea levels have risen Everything is ok - no global warming at Manly ? Is this guy for real ?
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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90842 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Abbott's Speech - good or bad. Reply #27 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:59pm Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 6:48pm: You'll never hear me saying anything bad about Mr Abbott, Grendel. I never have, and I never will. Never ever. A very tall drink of water... he doth bestride this narrow world like a Colossus....
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Reply #28 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 9:00pm

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In its last few months, the Howard government even agreed in-principle to support an emissions trading scheme.

That is right Tony went to the election with a carbon trading policy. Tony then blocked the negotiated carbon trading policy that was almost identical to the one he went to the election supporting ????

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Reply #29 - Oct 17^th, 2017 at 9:01pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 17^th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

[highlight]More than 100 years of photography at Manly Beach in my electorate does not suggest that sea levels have risen [/highlight]

Everything is ok - no global warming at Manly ? Is this guy for real ?

Tony's that old? Well, I never....... those Viagrans sure live a long time.... must be one of those lizard people...... Komodo dragons live a long time.... so do tortoises... surely something has risen in that time... he has three daughters.. well, two daughters and one undecided it seems....

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“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
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