Some of the posts here are astoundingly stupid.
you mean like this one?
Abbott has a messiah complex and would destroy the liberal party just to be leader. That is clear.
That is your opinion. I doubt very much he has a messiah complex.
It is also clear he is ideologically-driven.
Again your opinion... I have no doubt Abbott has drivers of his own that no true single ideology has.
Let's assume human caused climate change is real, and this becomes obvious and scientifically undeniable in 50 years (and after which time any effects could not substantially be ameliorated).
Big assumption.
Fact... there is no scientific consensus.
Because it is either true or not. As I say, let's assume for the sake of argument it is true.
Big assumption.
Yours.
If the liberal party adopts abbott's stance, and it is true, then the liberal party will be ridiculed and its future bleak electorally.
Why?
It is Abbotts opinion.
many people hold it.
many people totally deny climate change and global warming let alone AGW.
It will be the inept and irrelevant party of "climate change doubters who got us into this mess".
How so... they haven't adopted any policies so far you've stated Abbott has an opinion, nothing more. Opinions of backbenchers are a dime a dozen. You cant blame Abbott for that and certainly not the Libs or any other party.
Every time the liberal party put forward an argument the detractors would respond: as real as climate change says the liberals. Remember? Hahaha.
The liberal party would be a laughing stock with a compromised future.
No more than any party that have made mistakes in the past. In case you missed it party members change regularly.
That's a big gamble.
What is?
So, are abbott and ilk likely to be right and most climate scientists wrong?
there is no consensus.
Are you so confident in the affirmative that you happily risk the future of the liberal party?
Huh? Are you going to now ask the other case where AGW is in fact not a threat and warming etc is a natural phenomenon?
Is abbott and ilk so intelligent, so insightful, so likely to be right that you put the electoral future of the liberal party on their contrary opinion?
You forget all those other scientists that refute alarmist propaganda, or all those other intelligent people who also doubt the alarmism. Are you so sure they are wrong. What about all the billions spent to make no changes in climate. Changes that put our way of life in jeopardy for what will be no reason.
Remember, abbott is the drunk passed out on the floor of his office when he was supposed to be in Parliament. Abbott is competent?
Strawmen. passed out really...
Abbott, the ex seminarian, the professed Catholic, who rejects the pope's statements on climate change, but conveniently uses his religion in the SSM debate. Ideology trumps religion.
So the Pope is an expert? I thought he was a Catholic.
abbott, the man who knighted prince philip for his "services to australia", but then says he only did it to get up the nose of the lefty media. Ideology trumps good sense.
Don't recall that either...
Tony abbott and ilk are such geniuses that you without reservation back their stance??
You are a climate zealot and true believer in a theory that is as yet unproven.
If the liberal party gambles that abbott and co are right, but it turns out they were very wrong, then the liberal party will be the biggest loser. As successive generations battle the effects of climate change, the liberal party will be a staple of stand-up comedians for the rest of this century!
Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people!
Ah there we have the hateful bias... Who'd a thunk it eh.
Debate the facts not your fantasy bias.
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