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Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Reply #105 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:14pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:01pm:
By the way, FD and moses, feel free to list all of the terrorist attacks in Australia that have been carried out by Muslims.

Not plots.

Not foiled attempts.

Not imaginary attacks.

Real terrorist attacks.

Over to you guys.

The sooner you get onto this, the sooner we can compare numbers.

And, just to let you know, Jack van Tongeren (NOT a Muslim) carried out more than 20 terrorist attacks here in Perth.

Chat soon   Wink


Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.


Do you reckon a widespread sentiment of ill-will and sinister intentions by even a small minority (as opposed to an infinitesimally tiny minority) of the half million strong muslim population towards the non-muslim population would have produced a bit more than the handful of half-arsed plots and ~3 deaths we've experienced so far in over 40 years of significant muslim immigration?

I do.


Abu explained that it was to be done in an orderly fashion - ie no taking the law into your own hands. He wouldn't elaborate on the details, but it seemed to boil down to not starting a war you are going to lose. The large number of Muslims supporting ISIS and travelling over there to die for Islam, compared to the number carrying out attacks here, suggests he is not alone in this view.

Muhammad didn't conquer the middle east with lone wolf terrorist attacks.

If you go back to the time when Muslims were last in a position to actually carry out their ill will, they expressed it regularly by raiding Europe and Africa for sex slaves. We had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that. Now Muslims are trying to use the fruits of our efforts as evidence that Islam can be civilised, despite the clear trend of degradation in those lands that have been under the influence of Islam for the longest.

Basically your argument boils down to the incompetence of Muslims proving their benign intent, with a bit more smoke and mirrors than the efforts of the other apologists.


And your argument boils down to "we had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that".

It is a jolly world, no?


My argument is that Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.

And the incompetence of Muslims is not evidence of benign intent.
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Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Reply #106 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:01pm:
By the way, FD and moses, feel free to list all of the terrorist attacks in Australia that have been carried out by Muslims.

Not plots.

Not foiled attempts.

Not imaginary attacks.

Real terrorist attacks.

Over to you guys.

The sooner you get onto this, the sooner we can compare numbers.

And, just to let you know, Jack van Tongeren (NOT a Muslim) carried out more than 20 terrorist attacks here in Perth.

Chat soon   Wink


Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.


Do you reckon a widespread sentiment of ill-will and sinister intentions by even a small minority (as opposed to an infinitesimally tiny minority) of the half million strong muslim population towards the non-muslim population would have produced a bit more than the handful of half-arsed plots and ~3 deaths we've experienced so far in over 40 years of significant muslim immigration?

I do.


Abu explained that it was to be done in an orderly fashion - ie no taking the law into your own hands. He wouldn't elaborate on the details, but it seemed to boil down to not starting a war you are going to lose. The large number of Muslims supporting ISIS and travelling over there to die for Islam, compared to the number carrying out attacks here, suggests he is not alone in this view.

Muhammad didn't conquer the middle east with lone wolf terrorist attacks.

If you go back to the time when Muslims were last in a position to actually carry out their ill will, they expressed it regularly by raiding Europe and Africa for sex slaves. We had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that. Now Muslims are trying to use the fruits of our efforts as evidence that Islam can be civilised, despite the clear trend of degradation in those lands that have been under the influence of Islam for the longest.

Basically your argument boils down to the incompetence of Muslims proving their benign intent, with a bit more smoke and mirrors than the efforts of the other apologists.


And your argument boils down to "we had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that".

It is a jolly world, no?


My argument is that Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.

And the incompetence of Muslims is not evidence of benign intent.


Isn't it also that the Roman Empire didn't have slavery?

I could have sworn you said that. Or how about the British Empire didn't establish the biggest slave trade in history?

That's your argument too, right?
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Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Reply #107 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:00pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #101 - Yesterday at 2:39pm

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Nobody is excusing any terrorist.

They're all scum.

However, the simple fact of the matter is, the majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.


Well that's crap with a capitol K if ever I read it.

You really need to inform the whole world they have got the entire terror thing wrong.

Meanwhile in the land of reality

from our own Australian National Security site

Listed terrorist organisations

*Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Murabitun
Listed 5 November 2014

*Al-Qa'ida (AQ)
Listed 21 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)
Listed 26 November 2010, re-listed 26 November 2013 and 26 November 2016.

*Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS)
Listed 28 November 2016

*Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Shabaab
Listed 22 August 2009, re-listed 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Ansar al-Islam
Formerly known as Ansar al-Sunna—Listed 27 March 2003, re-listed 27 March 2005, 24 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 9 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Boko Haram
Listed 26 June 2014 and re-listed 27 June 2017.

*Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)
Listed 5 June 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 25 May 2007, 16 May 2009, 12 May 2012 and 2 May 2015

*Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Islamic State
Formerly listed as Al-Qa’ida in Iraq—2 March 2005, re-listed 17 Feb 2007, 1 Nov 2008, 29 Oct 2010, 12 July 2013. Formerly listed as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant on 14 Dec 2013. Listed 11 July 2014 as Islamic State and re-listed 1 July 2017.

*Islamic State East Asia
Listed 8 September 2017

*Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya)
Listed 28 November 2016

*Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai)
Listed 28 November 2016.

*Jabhat al-Nusra
Listed 29 June 2013, re-listed 28 June 2016 and amended on 4 November 2016 to include alias Jabhat Fatah al-Sham.

*Jaish-e-Mohammed
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA)
Formerly known as Harakat Ul-Mujahideen—Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)
Listed 27 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)
Listed 17 December 2005, re-listed 28 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Lashkar-e Jhangvi
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Lashkar-e-Tayyiba
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Palestinian Islamic Jihad
Listed 3 May 2004, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

Looks like the muslims are the world champs in the number of listed terrorists organizations.

It's amazing how the leftards will sink to any depth to excuse global islamic terrorism, carried out by the highest grade of muslims (according to the qur'an).



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Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Reply #108 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:23pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #101 - Yesterday at 2:39pm

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Nobody is excusing any terrorist.

They're all scum.

However, the simple fact of the matter is, the majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.


Well that's crap with a capitol K if ever I read it.




No - it's a fact.

The majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.
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Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Reply #109 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
moses wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #101 - Yesterday at 2:39pm

Quote:
Nobody is excusing any terrorist.

They're all scum.

However, the simple fact of the matter is, the majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.


Well that's crap with a capitol K if ever I read it.




No - it's a fact.

The majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.


But 100% of Islamist terrorist attacks have been  by Muslims everywhere.  Without exception.

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Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Reply #110 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:41pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
moses wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #101 - Yesterday at 2:39pm

Quote:
Nobody is excusing any terrorist.

They're all scum.

However, the simple fact of the matter is, the majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.


Well that's crap with a capitol K if ever I read it.




No - it's a fact.

The majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.


But 100% of Islamist terrorist attacks have been  by Muslims everywhere.  Without exception.



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Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Reply #111 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
moses wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #101 - Yesterday at 2:39pm

Quote:
Nobody is excusing any terrorist.

They're all scum.

However, the simple fact of the matter is, the majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.


Well that's crap with a capitol K if ever I read it.




No - it's a fact.

The majority of terrorist attacks carried out in Australia, and indeed in Europe and the USA, have been carried out by non-Muslims.


But 100% of Islamist terrorist attacks have been  by Muslims everywhere.  Without exception.



Good work, Einstein    Roll Eyes

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Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Reply #112 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:47pm
 
Aww gee here's me thinking the whole world was on the right track with their perception the muslims were the top of the terror list.

Now I've got leftard apologists making excuses for them yet again (what's changed?)

Oh well the leftards need to inform the rest of the world they are wrong, I mean how can we stop teror if our  national security organizations are listing the wrong people?
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Reply #113 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 3:04pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:14pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:01pm:
By the way, FD and moses, feel free to list all of the terrorist attacks in Australia that have been carried out by Muslims.

Not plots.

Not foiled attempts.

Not imaginary attacks.

Real terrorist attacks.

Over to you guys.

The sooner you get onto this, the sooner we can compare numbers.

And, just to let you know, Jack van Tongeren (NOT a Muslim) carried out more than 20 terrorist attacks here in Perth.

Chat soon   Wink


Ah, the incompetence of Muslims proves their benign intent.


Do you reckon a widespread sentiment of ill-will and sinister intentions by even a small minority (as opposed to an infinitesimally tiny minority) of the half million strong muslim population towards the non-muslim population would have produced a bit more than the handful of half-arsed plots and ~3 deaths we've experienced so far in over 40 years of significant muslim immigration?

I do.


Abu explained that it was to be done in an orderly fashion - ie no taking the law into your own hands. He wouldn't elaborate on the details, but it seemed to boil down to not starting a war you are going to lose. The large number of Muslims supporting ISIS and travelling over there to die for Islam, compared to the number carrying out attacks here, suggests he is not alone in this view.

Muhammad didn't conquer the middle east with lone wolf terrorist attacks.

If you go back to the time when Muslims were last in a position to actually carry out their ill will, they expressed it regularly by raiding Europe and Africa for sex slaves. We had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that. Now Muslims are trying to use the fruits of our efforts as evidence that Islam can be civilised, despite the clear trend of degradation in those lands that have been under the influence of Islam for the longest.

Basically your argument boils down to the incompetence of Muslims proving their benign intent, with a bit more smoke and mirrors than the efforts of the other apologists.


And your argument boils down to "we had to kill a lot of Muslims to put a stop to that".

It is a jolly world, no?


My argument is that Islam is the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.

And the incompetence of Muslims is not evidence of benign intent.


Why do you think they weren't a threat 50 or so years ago?
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Re: Why are Muzlims so Sadistic?
Reply #114 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 3:05pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Aww gee here's me thinking the whole world was on the right track with their perception the muslims were the top of the terror list.

Now I've got leftard apologists making excuses for them yet again (what's changed?)

Oh well the leftards need to inform the rest of the world they are wrong, I mean how can we stop teror if our  national security organizations are listing the wrong people?


Oh, the naivety   Roll Eyes

What makes you think our national security organisations want to stop terror?

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Reply #115 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 3:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
Abu explained that it was to be done in an orderly fashion - ie no taking the law into your own hands. He wouldn't elaborate on the details, but it seemed to boil down to not starting a war you are going to lose. The large number of Muslims supporting ISIS and travelling over there to die for Islam, compared to the number carrying out attacks here, suggests he is not alone in this view.

Muhammad didn't conquer the middle east with lone wolf terrorist attacks.


Well that makes no sense - since ISIS are specifically calling on muslims to carry out lone wolf attacks. If helping ISIS is so popular FD, why are there so few muslims actually carrying out ISIS's orders?
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Reply #116 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 3:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote: reply 114
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Oh, the naivety 

What makes you think our national security organisations want to stop terror?


Well obviously according to you they don't.

They're just a bunch of islamophobes listing muslims as the top 24 odd terror organizations.

Ring the NATIONAL SECURITY HOTLINE 1800 123 400 and tell them they've got it all wrong.

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Reply #117 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 3:21pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Aww gee here's me thinking the whole world was on the right track with their perception the muslims were the top of the terror list.

Now I've got leftard apologists making excuses for them yet again (what's changed?)

Oh well the leftards need to inform the rest of the world they are wrong, I mean how can we stop teror if our  national security organizations are listing the wrong people?


"Making excuses"?  Where, Moses?   I have yet to see any excuses made for Terrorism, by anybody, except you, if the Terrorists are Christian.  Tsk, tsk, you disown them immediately.  Declare them to be non-Christians.   The only Terrorism excuser we actually see to have, is yourself.  Hypocrite!   Roll Eyes
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Reply #118 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 3:21pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote: reply 114
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Oh, the naivety 

What makes you think our national security organisations want to stop terror?


Well obviously according to you they don't.

They're just a bunch of islamophobes listing muslims as the top 24 odd terror organizations.

Ring the NATIONAL SECURITY HOTLINE 1800 123 400 and tell them they've got it all wrong.



Now you're getting all confused.

Who said they've got it wrong?
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Reply #119 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 3:23pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 3:21pm:
moses wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Aww gee here's me thinking the whole world was on the right track with their perception the muslims were the top of the terror list.

Now I've got leftard apologists making excuses for them yet again (what's changed?)

Oh well the leftards need to inform the rest of the world they are wrong, I mean how can we stop teror if our  national security organizations are listing the wrong people?


"Making excuses"?  Where, Moses?   I have yet to see any excuses made for Terrorism, by anybody, except you, if the Terrorists are Christian.  Tsk, tsk, you disown them immediately.  Declare them to be non-Christians.   The only Terrorism excuser we actually see to have, is yourself.  Hypocrite!   Roll Eyes


That's quite true.

Everyone from the left on this forum has condemned all terrorism.

Those on the right, however, refuse to condemn white, non-Muslim terrorists.

In fact, some even cheer them on.

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