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A reaonably new paper on GreenHouse Theory
Sep 29th, 2017 at 6:25pm
 
"A recent study has revealed that the Earth’s natural atmospheric greenhouse effect is around 90 K or about 2.7 times stronger than assumed for the past 40 years. A thermal enhancement of such a magnitude cannot be explained with the observed amount of outgoing infrared long-wave radiation absorbed by the atmosphere (i.e. ≈ 158 W m-2), thus requiring a re-examination of the underlying Greenhouse theory."

"Our analysis revealed that GMATs of rocky planets with tangible atmospheres and a negligible geothermal surface heating can accurately be predicted over a broad range of conditions using only two forcing variables: top-of-the-atmosphere solar irradiance and total surface atmospheric pressure. The hereto discovered interplanetary pressure-temperature relationship is shown to be statistically robust while describing a smooth physical continuum without climatic tipping points. This continuum fully explains the recently discovered 90 K thermal effect of Earth’s atmosphere. The new model displays characteristics of an emergent macro-level thermodynamic relationship heretofore unbeknown to science that has important theoretical implications. A key entailment from the model is that the atmospheric ‘greenhouse effect’ currently viewed as a radiative phenomenon is in fact an adiabatic (pressure-induced) thermal enhancement analogous to compression heating and independent of atmospheric composition. Consequently, the global down-welling long-wave flux presently assumed to drive Earth’s surface warming appears to be a product of the air temperature set by solar heating and atmospheric pressure. In other words, the so-called ‘greenhouse back radiation’ is globally a result of the atmospheric thermal effect rather than a cause for it. Our empirical model has also fundamental implications for the role of oceans, water vapour, and planetary albedo in global climate. Since produced by a rigorous attempt to describe planetary temperatures in the context of a cosmic continuum using an objective analysis of vetted observations from across the Solar System, these findings call for a paradigm shift in our understanding of the atmospheric ‘greenhouse effect’ as a fundamental property of climate."

"New Insights on the Physical Nature of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect Deduced from an Empirical Planetary Temperature Model"

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Re: A reaonably new paper on GreenHouse Theory
Reply #1 - Oct 1st, 2017 at 12:58am
 
Always good to see you posting something reasoned. So whats your take on this heretofore unbeknownst concept?
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Reply #2 - Oct 1st, 2017 at 10:38am
 
They even tried to publish the paper under a fake name

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/09/19/scientists-publish...

Scientists published climate research under fake names. Then they were caught.

The pseudonyms further unraveled with a tweet from NASA researcher Gavin A. Schmidt, which alerted Retraction Watch to the withdrawal. “Top tip for climate contrarians: When you submit nonsense papers to journals,” Schmidt wrote, “spell your name backwards so no one knows who you are.”

The withdrawn study “is just a curve-fitting exercise of five data points using four free parameters and as many functional forms as they could think of,” Schmidt, an expert in atmospheric climate modeling, said in an email. Like the previous pseudonymous research, “it too has nothing fundamental to add.”

He added, “The authors’ insistence that they are ‘contradicting mainstream theory’ is just delusional self-aggrandizement.”
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Re: A reaonably new paper on GreenHouse Theory
Reply #3 - Oct 1st, 2017 at 11:12am
 
Many people have made false claims that the poles are melting.
I posted a graph on the Ice Age thread that shows they are wrong.
There is more ice this year than last year.
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Re: A reaonably new paper on GreenHouse Theory
Reply #4 - Oct 1st, 2017 at 12:05pm
 
Pho Huc wrote on Oct 1st, 2017 at 12:58am:
Always good to see you posting something reasoned. So whats your take on this heretofore unbeknownst concept?



Well, it is model based. So it is as likely as model based CO2 theory. Wink
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Reply #5 - Oct 1st, 2017 at 12:13pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 1st, 2017 at 10:38am:
They even tried to publish the paper under a fake name

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/09/19/scientists-publish...



Seems you are right.

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 1st, 2017 at 10:38am:
The withdrawn study “is just a curve-fitting exercise of five data points using four free parameters and as many functional forms as they could think of,” Schmidt, an expert in atmospheric climate modeling, said in an email. Like the previous pseudonymous research, “it too has nothing fundamental to add.”



Gavin Schmidt, climate modeller, would know a lot about curve fitting exercises.

After all the hindcasting of the models is exactly that.They have no predictive capability, despite claims to the contrary. They don't even hindcast very well. Wink
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