Australian Politics Forum - There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia

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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #45 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:04pm

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

How do you reform a religion that is responsible globally for the top twenty four odd listed terror organizations?

How do you reform the evil in islamic doctrine which directly states that the muslim killers are the highest grade of muslims?

Which list are you going off, Moses? The one I found lists the top 3 as the IRA, The Lord's Resistance Army and the Naxalites (Indian Maoists). FARC in Collumbia is also up there, as is the non-Islamic Kurdistan Worker's Party.

I would have thought ISIS or al Nusra would top the list, but there you go. http://www.theclever.com/top-15-most-dangerous-terrorist-organizations-in-the-wo...

Kunning, no?

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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #47 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:24pm

karnal wrote: Reply #45 - Today at 3:04pm

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Which list are you going off, Moses?

from our own Australian National Security site

Listed terrorist organisations

*Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Murabitun
Listed 5 November 2014

*Al-Qa'ida (AQ)
Listed 21 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)
Listed 26 November 2010, re-listed 26 November 2013 and 26 November 2016.

*Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS)
Listed 28 November 2016

*Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Shabaab
Listed 22 August 2009, re-listed 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Ansar al-Islam
Formerly known as Ansar al-Sunna—Listed 27 March 2003, re-listed 27 March 2005, 24 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 9 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Boko Haram
Listed 26 June 2014 and re-listed 27 June 2017.

*Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)
Listed 5 June 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 25 May 2007, 16 May 2009, 12 May 2012 and 2 May 2015

*Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Islamic State
Formerly listed as Al-Qa’ida in Iraq—2 March 2005, re-listed 17 Feb 2007, 1 Nov 2008, 29 Oct 2010, 12 July 2013. Formerly listed as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant on 14 Dec 2013. Listed 11 July 2014 as Islamic State and re-listed 1 July 2017.

*Islamic State East Asia
Listed 8 September 2017

*Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya)
Listed 28 November 2016

*Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai)
Listed 28 November 2016.

*Jabhat al-Nusra
Listed 29 June 2013, re-listed 28 June 2016 and amended on 4 November 2016 to include alias Jabhat Fatah al-Sham.

*Jaish-e-Mohammed
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA)
Formerly known as Harakat Ul-Mujahideen—Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)
Listed 27 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)
Listed 17 December 2005, re-listed 28 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Lashkar-e Jhangvi
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Lashkar-e-Tayyiba
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Palestinian Islamic Jihad
Listed 3 May 2004, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 147885 Gender:	Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia Reply #48 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:26pm Poor little moses. "Top 15 Most Dangerous* Terrorist Organizations in the World".*
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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #49 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:26pm

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:24pm:

karnal wrote: Reply #45 - Today at 3:04pm

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Which list are you going off, Moses?

from our own Australian National Security site

Listed terrorist organisations

*Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Murabitun
Listed 5 November 2014

*Al-Qa'ida (AQ)
Listed 21 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)
Listed 26 November 2010, re-listed 26 November 2013 and 26 November 2016.

*Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS)
Listed 28 November 2016

*Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)
Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Al-Shabaab
Listed 22 August 2009, re-listed 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Ansar al-Islam
Formerly known as Ansar al-Sunna—Listed 27 March 2003, re-listed 27 March 2005, 24 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 9 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Boko Haram
Listed 26 June 2014 and re-listed 27 June 2017.

*Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)
Listed 5 June 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 25 May 2007, 16 May 2009, 12 May 2012 and 2 May 2015

*Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Islamic State
Formerly listed as Al-Qa’ida in Iraq—2 March 2005, re-listed 17 Feb 2007, 1 Nov 2008, 29 Oct 2010, 12 July 2013. Formerly listed as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant on 14 Dec 2013. Listed 11 July 2014 as Islamic State and re-listed 1 July 2017.

*Islamic State East Asia
Listed 8 September 2017

*Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya)
Listed 28 November 2016

*Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai)
Listed 28 November 2016.

*Jabhat al-Nusra
Listed 29 June 2013, re-listed 28 June 2016 and amended on 4 November 2016 to include alias Jabhat Fatah al-Sham.

*Jaish-e-Mohammed
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA)
Formerly known as Harakat Ul-Mujahideen—Listed 14 November 2002, re-listed 5 November 2004, 3 November 2006, 1 November 2008, 29 October 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)
Listed 27 October 2002, re-listed 1 September 2004, 26 August 2006, 9 August 2008, 22 July 2010, 12 July 2013 and 28 June 2016

*Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)
Listed 17 December 2005, re-listed 28 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Lashkar-e Jhangvi
Listed 11 April 2003, re-listed 11 April 2005, 31 March 2007, 14 March 2009, 10 March 2012 and 3 March 2015

*Lashkar-e-Tayyiba
Listed 9 November 2003, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

*Palestinian Islamic Jihad
Listed 3 May 2004, re-listed 5 June 2005, 7 October 2005, 8 September 2007, 8 September 2009, 18 August 2012 and 11 August 2015

That's in alphabetical order, Moses, but thanks for the reply.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia Reply #50 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:31pm gee whiz, seems nationalsecurity.gov.au accidentally left out the Israeli and Saudi governments. An innocent oversight I'm sure.
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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia Reply #51 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:36pm When are you going to honestly address the cause and motivation of islamic terrorism gandalf? Stop crying and playing the victim card, the cause is in the verses of the qur'an, as muhammad revealed them as the new tenets of the old moon god allah.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 147885 Gender:	Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia Reply #52 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:40pm moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:36pm: When are you going to honestly address the cause and motivation of islamic terrorism gandalf? Stop crying and playing the victim card, the cause is in the verses of the qur'an, as muhammad revealed them as the new tenets of the old moon god allah. Apologist.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia Reply #53 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 8:04pm A phobia is an irrational fear. A fear backed by logic and understanding is common sense.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 147885 Gender:	Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia Reply #54 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 8:07pm Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 8:04pm: A phobia is an irrational fear. A fear backed by logic and understanding is common sense. Islamophobe apologist.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 99810	Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia Reply #55 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 8:19pm polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:31pm: gee whiz, seems nationalsecurity.gov.au accidentally left out the Israeli and Saudi governments. An innocent oversight I'm sure. So did Uncle and Mother. Uncanny. Shurely shome mishtake, eh?
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia Reply #56 - Oct 13^th, 2017 at 8:58pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 8:07pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 8:04pm: A phobia is an irrational fear. A fear backed by logic and understanding is common sense. Islamophobe apologist. Pedophile?
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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #57 - Oct 14^th, 2017 at 8:28am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25^th, 2017 at 12:12pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 25^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 25^th, 2017 at 11:36am:

Islamophobia is used to cloak a vile religion.

Christianity? Couldn't agree more, Gordon. Roll Eyes

What are your thoughts on Wahabisim?

I know it's actually spelt, "Wahhabism", Gordon. Roll Eyes

The empty-headed pedant raises his thick head.

Explain, Bwian, why the original Arabic requires it to be transcribed with a double h. Obviously a very important distinction for an apologist for fundamentalists like you.

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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #58 - Oct 14^th, 2017 at 9:40am

Karnal wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 3:04pm:

moses wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

How do you reform a religion that is responsible globally for the top twenty four odd listed terror organizations?

How do you reform the evil in islamic doctrine which directly states that the muslim killers are the highest grade of muslims?

Which list are you going off, Moses? The one I found lists the top 3 as the IRA, The Lord's Resistance Army and the Naxalites (Indian Maoists). FARC in Collumbia is also up there, as is the non-Islamic Kurdistan Worker's Party.

I would have thought ISIS or al Nusra would top the list, but there you go. theclever.com/top-15-most-dangerous-terrorist-organizations-in-the-world/

Kunning, no?

And yet when you look at the top 10 "thetoptens.com/terrorist-groups/"

Then you look at the top 5 "nationalinterest.org/feature/washington-watching-the-5-deadliest-terrorist-grou
ps-the-11687"

Strange that.

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Justsayno Go home and have talk to your fictitious autistic son, looser.

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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #59 - Oct 14^th, 2017 at 9:53am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28^th, 2017 at 7:16pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2017 at 11:34pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Where did I use the word "prophet" in connection with "Charles Darwin", Soren? Tsk, tsk, I really don't know why you bother, I really don't. Roll Eyes

I believe in Evolution as propounded by Charles Darwin.

Your words, Big Thick.

So a Natural Scientist, propounding a scientific theory is a "Prophet" in your mind, Soren?

Tsk, tsk, you claim to be a modern, enlightened, Westerner and you cannot tell the difference between science and religion.

Have a good look at this Charlatan.

"a person who advocates or speaks in a visionary way about a new cause or theory."

That is from a dictionary Brian, ever heard of them?

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