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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 49705 Gender:	Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe Reply #30 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:47pm mothra wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:50pm: [url]http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-believe-about-islam_p2.html [/url] Must be taken seriously, it was in Cracked!!!!!!
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Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe
Reply #31 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 8:06pm

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Do you consider modern Muslims to be a mindless collective?

You mean would I knee-jerkingly attribute any and every negative thing I see by an individual who happens to be muslim as "typical muslim" collective behaviour? Or would I reduce the entire 1400 year history of Islamic civilization as nothing but rabid murderous zombies fixated on industrialising rape?

No FD, I don't. That would be incredibly bigoted of me.

You?

What about in the same sense as the tribe of Jews that Muhammad slaughtered?

Or in the sense that you described early Muslims, and Arabs from that time, as a mindless collective?

Would I describe over 1.5 billion muslims living in all corners of the globe in just about every culture - in the same way as I would describe a few thousand monocultural tribal hicks living in one desert location 1400 years ago?

Thats a great question FD, would I?

Actually on second thoughts, no its a mind-numbingly stupid question.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe Reply #32 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 8:20pm Answer the question, gandalf, and don't even think of doing a runner.
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Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe
Reply #33 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 9:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Do you consider modern Muslims to be a mindless collective?

You mean would I knee-jerkingly attribute any and every negative thing I see by an individual who happens to be muslim as "typical muslim" collective behaviour? Or would I reduce the entire 1400 year history of Islamic civilization as nothing but rabid murderous zombies fixated on industrialising rape?

No FD, I don't. That would be incredibly bigoted of me.

You?

What about in the same sense as the tribe of Jews that Muhammad slaughtered?

Or in the sense that you described early Muslims, and Arabs from that time, as a mindless collective?

Would I describe over 1.5 billion muslims living in all corners of the globe in just about every culture - in the same way as I would describe a few thousand monocultural tribal hicks living in one desert location 1400 years ago?

Thats a great question FD, would I?

Actually on second thoughts, no its a mind-numbingly stupid question.

Well, if there can be unconscious white privilege, there can be unconscious Muslim mindlessness.
All you have to ask is - do you accept the Koran as God's final, eternal and unchangeable revelation?
If they say yes, you have unconscious mindlessness.

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Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe
Reply #34 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 9:47pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Do you consider modern Muslims to be a mindless collective?

You mean would I knee-jerkingly attribute any and every negative thing I see by an individual who happens to be muslim as "typical muslim" collective behaviour? Or would I reduce the entire 1400 year history of Islamic civilization as nothing but rabid murderous zombies fixated on industrialising rape?

No FD, I don't. That would be incredibly bigoted of me.

You?

What about in the same sense as the tribe of Jews that Muhammad slaughtered?

Or in the sense that you described early Muslims, and Arabs from that time, as a mindless collective?

Would I describe over 1.5 billion muslims living in all corners of the globe in just about every culture - in the same way as I would describe a few thousand monocultural tribal hicks living in one desert location 1400 years ago?

Thats a great question FD, would I?

Actually on second thoughts, no its a mind-numbingly stupid question.

You asked it first Gandalf.

It is mind-numbingly stupid to argue that the Jews that Muhammad slaughtered were a mindless collective. Yet you do it. Who am I to say where the stupid ends with Muslims? You know how upset you get when I try to guess your particular flavour of stupid. You will argue for pages about how I misplaced you on the spectrum, but won't choose a place for yourself.

Do you consider modern Muslims to be a mindless collective?

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe Reply #35 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:04pm Wow. Massive thread fail by Mothra. Another humiliation.
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Reply #36 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:05pm

Gotta love it that each time someone wants to convince us of how great Islam is, their best point of reference dates back hundreds of years.

Let's deal with Islam of today, shall we? Or shall we continue to pretend Islam is modern, and then listing everything from the 1700s? Grin

Mothra, would you say it is humane to stone a woman for being raped? A simple yes or no

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Disclaimer for Mothra per POST so it is forever acknowledged: Saying 'Islam' or 'Muslims' doesn't mean ALL muslims. This does not target individual muslims who's opinion I am not aware of.

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Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe
Reply #37 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 7:58am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:05pm:

Let's deal with Islam of today, shall we?

But FD keeps bringing it up alevine. All the bloody time. He literally is incapable of making a single post about Islam these days without mentioning the massacre of jews 1400 years ago, or Muhammad's rape and pillage adventures, or his marriage to a 9 year old. His latest gem is to describe the entire 1400 history of Islamic civilization as nothing but a mindless murderous horde bent on indusrialising rape to spread their evil empire. Thwarted only by the forces of light (aka the west).

The point is alevine, the past is central to FD's and Frank's and others central argument that Islam can never be civilized - because it never was civilized. How am I supposed to counter this without mentioning the past?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #38 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:12am

As far as I can tell your mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews is a very recent invention. You may have even made it up yourself.

Is it 'civilised' to label the victims of genocide as a mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews? How about "tough titties, off with their heads"? Civilised, or uncivilised?

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe Reply #39 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:14am Actually you came up with the term FD. I may have mentioned this before.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49838 At my desk.	Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe Reply #40 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:23am How did you know that is "exactly what they were"? What terminology do Muslims use when explaining to you why Muhammad had to commit genocide?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49838 At my desk.	Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe Reply #41 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:24am poll added
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe Reply #42 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 12:44pm you're right about one thing FD - "mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews" is indeed a recent invention (of yours)
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49838 At my desk.	Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe Reply #43 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 1:58pm How did you know that is "exactly what they were"? What terminology do Muslims use when explaining to you why Muhammad had to commit genocide?
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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 43362	Re: 5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe Reply #44 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:06pm Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 8:20pm: Answer the question, gandalf, and don't even think of doing a runner. You mean like you do, when you're asked a difficult question, Herbie? Tsk, tsk.
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Question: "Tough titties, off with their heads"
Civilised 0 (0.0%) Uncivilised 3 (75.0%) What? 1 (25.0%) Total votes: 4 « Created by: freediver on: Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:24am »