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Reply #15 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 5:41pm

Auggie wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 3:47pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 12:28pm:

Do you think modern Muslims are a mindless collective?

Are Australians a mindless collective? Are Americans a mindless collective? How do you know?

Why not judge people as individuals?

There's nothing that promotes individuality under the precepts of Islam.

Stray from the Group Think and you'll soon find your currency as an 'individual' being threatened until you re-join the Herd.

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Reply #16 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:47pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 5:41pm:

Auggie wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 3:47pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 12:28pm:

Do you think modern Muslims are a mindless collective?

Are Australians a mindless collective? Are Americans a mindless collective? How do you know?

Why not judge people as individuals?

There's nothing that promotes individuality under the precepts of Islam.

Stray from the Group Think and you'll soon find your currency as an 'individual' being threatened until you re-join the Herd.

Whether that be true or no, why aren't WE judging them as individuals?

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Reply #17 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:59pm

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 12:28pm:

So whether some Muslims do something is irrelevant to whether it is correct to use the plural to describe what those Muslims do?

Did you use the plural in response to what you've heard a collective of muslims say, or simply by what you heard me say?

If I quoted a single jew being what I perceived as evasive and made a sweeping statement with words to the effect of "here you can see that jews (plural) are sneaky and evasive" - what would be your reaction? All kosher?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: me no speaka da english Reply #18 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 8:16pm Auggie wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:47pm: Whether that be true or no, why aren't WE judging them as individuals? It's true. If at your age you still haven't worked out that criticism and disapproval of a person's religion has absolutely nothing to do with race, then you're a hopeless id iot.
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Reply #19 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 8:28pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 8:16pm:

Auggie wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

Whether that be true or no, why aren't WE judging them as individuals?

It's true.

If at your age you still haven't worked out that criticism and disapproval of a person's religion has absolutely nothing to do with race, then you're a hopeless id iot.

Where did I say anything about racism, or accuse anyone of being racist?

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Reply #20 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 8:46pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 12:28pm:

So whether some Muslims do something is irrelevant to whether it is correct to use the plural to describe what those Muslims do?

Did you use the plural in response to what you've heard a collective of muslims say, or simply by what you heard me say?

If I quoted a single jew being what I perceived as evasive and made a sweeping statement with words to the effect of "here you can see that jews (plural) are sneaky and evasive" - what would be your reaction? All kosher?

Would you argue that whether Jews are sneaky and evasive is irrelevant to whether Jews are sneaky and evasive?

You are not the only Muslim who has difficulty answering questions Gandalf. Abu and Falah behaved similarly. But you get upset when I quote them. In any case, you are a good example to use.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #21 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 8:56pm

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 8:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 12:28pm:

So whether some Muslims do something is irrelevant to whether it is correct to use the plural to describe what those Muslims do?

Did you use the plural in response to what you've heard a collective of muslims say, or simply by what you heard me say?

If I quoted a single jew being what I perceived as evasive and made a sweeping statement with words to the effect of "here you can see that jews (plural) are sneaky and evasive" - what would be your reaction? All kosher?

Would you argue that whether Jews are sneaky and evasive is irrelevant to whether Jews are sneaky and evasive?

You are not the only Muslim who has difficulty answering questions Gandalf. Abu and Falah behaved similarly. But you get upset when I quote them. In any case, you are a good example to use.

Does getting upset make one less able to debate?

Have you never been offended?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38977 Gender:	Re: me no speaka da english Reply #22 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:00pm What sort of question is this? Quote: Would you argue that whether Jews are sneaky and evasive is irrelevant to whether Jews are sneaky and evasive?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49838 At my desk.	Re: me no speaka da english Reply #23 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:00pm Are you asking me those questions Aug? Here you go Aussie: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:59am: It is not correct FD. And the fact that some muslims may or may not act the same way is completely irrelevant to why you are not correct.
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: me no speaka da english Reply #24 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:01pm freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:00pm: Are you asking me those questions Aug? Yes, I am, Effendim. Hello.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49838 At my desk.	Re: me no speaka da english Reply #25 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:03pm I don't recall being offended, but I'm sure I have been. And yes, getting emotional does tend to make people worse at debating, though some people are skilled at using emotional manipulation as an alternative to rational argument. Is there a point to this?
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Reply #26 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:06pm

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

I don't recall being offended, but I'm sure I have been. And yes, getting emotional does tend to make people worse at debating, though some people are skilled at using emotional manipulation as an alternative to rational argument.

Is there a point to this?

My point is: why are belaboring on about this whole Islam thing with Gandalf. You seem hell-bent on trying to get Gandalf to come to your point of view.

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Reply #27 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:09pm

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

Are you asking me those questions Aug?

Here you go Aussie:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:59am:

It is not correct FD. And the fact that some muslims may or may not act the same way is completely irrelevant to why you are not correct.

Are you seriously contending that is in any way similar to this rubbish?

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Would you argue that whether Jews are sneaky and evasive is irrelevant to whether Jews are sneaky and evasive?

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Reply #28 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:32pm

Auggie wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

I don't recall being offended, but I'm sure I have been. And yes, getting emotional does tend to make people worse at debating, though some people are skilled at using emotional manipulation as an alternative to rational argument.

Is there a point to this?

My point is: why are belaboring on about this whole Islam thing with Gandalf. You seem hell-bent on trying to get Gandalf to come to your point of view.

Let's start with a straight answer. Eh?

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #29 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:44pm

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:32pm:

Auggie wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:06pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:03pm:

I don't recall being offended, but I'm sure I have been. And yes, getting emotional does tend to make people worse at debating, though some people are skilled at using emotional manipulation as an alternative to rational argument.

Is there a point to this?

My point is: why are belaboring on about this whole Islam thing with Gandalf. You seem hell-bent on trying to get Gandalf to come to your point of view.

Let's start with a straight answer. Eh?

It is an answer.

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