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Reply #15 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 9:48pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 9:32pm:
Will absorb some of the extra heat as they melt but more warmth will arrive. We are looking at 9m sea level rise.


Oh, Is that the deep ocean that Trenberth says the heat is hiding in. Waiting to go BOO and scare us? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #16 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 10:18pm
 
Sometimes you sound halfway intelligent, but mostly you sound like a retarded five year old.

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Re: How soon will we hit 1.5°C and will it matter?
Reply #17 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:10pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 10:18pm:
Sometimes you sound halfway intelligent, but mostly you sound like a retarded five year old.



Coming from a retarded 3 year old that's impressive. Wink
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Reply #18 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 9:54am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
Study on how soon we will hit 1.5°C temperature increase

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Global temperatures could exceed 1.5 degrees Celsius above their preindustrial levels within the next 15 years, according to a new scientific study, crossing the first threshold under the Paris climate agreement and placing the world at a potentially dangerous level of climate change.


Remember the three main icesheets are on the verge of collapse, well almost so. More warming would not be good. Remember, the Eemian period 125,000 years ago was maybe a bit hotter than today—and had sea levels nine metres higher than today.

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The study focuses on a natural planetary system known as the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation, or IPO (it’s also sometimes referred to as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation). It’s an alternating pattern of ocean temperatures that shifts periodically between warm and cool phases, helping to drive temperature and weather patterns all over the world.

During cool, or “negative,” phases, tropical regions of the Pacific Ocean tend to be colder, and the global mean temperature is lower. The system is similar to the El Niño/La Niña cycle, the major difference being that phases of the IPO tend to last much longer — sometimes a decade or more. The phenomenon is believed to be a natural form of climate variability unrelated to human-caused climate change, although it does have the potential to influence the progression of global warming.


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2017GL073480/full

So, what phase is the IPO/PDO in and is it likely to move to another phase?

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For most of the 2000s, the IPO has been in a negative phase, and scientists think its cooling effect has helped to slightly offset the effect of climate change. . .


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Many scientists believe that the planet is now transitioning back into a positive, or warm, phase, which could amplify, rather than offset, human-caused climate warming. This means we could reach milestone temperature thresholds faster than we would if the IPO had remained in its negative phase. 

That’s the conclusion of the new study, written by Henley and Andrew King of the University of Melbourne. Using model projections of future climate warming under a business-as-usual scenario, they suggest that the Earth could hit the 1.5-degree temperature threshold as early as 2025, while the continuation of the negative phase probably would delay this event until after 2030. 


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/05/09/earth-could...

With those three huge icesheets already on the verge of collapse hitting 1.5°C increase is not what we want to do.

So, bugger off any new coal fired generators, time to implement an emissions intensity scheme or a fullblown, traded cap and trade ETS.

How can we protect against sea level rises? Better start implementing that.

Phase out coal ASAP and replace with renewables plus nuclear as a backup. Plenty of aging coal fired generators that will be shut down soon anyway.

What coastline will go regardless of what we build as sea defences? What will that do to acquifers? LOTS of policy issues.


The topic of this thread.

Will the extra warming to 1.5°C see thresholds being passed? Irrevocable melting of icesheets say?
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Re: How soon will we hit 1.5°C and will it matter?
Reply #19 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 12:08pm
 
More climatically confused Globally Warmed Greeny bulldust.

No Global Warming for 19 years now - don't the Greenies look real silly.

You don't have to be dumb to be a Greeny - but it sure helps!!!
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Reply #20 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 12:31pm
 
A moronic cretin posted. . .shyte.

2016 hottest recorded year, 2017 nearly as warm.

Have a look at this video. Prof Rignot has 25 years experience in studying the main icefields and how they are destabilising:

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Reply #21 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 3:46pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 12:31pm:
2016 hottest recorded year, 2017 nearly as warm.



But neither nearly as warm as 1997's 62.45ºF. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: How soon will we hit 1.5°C and will it matter?
Reply #22 - Sep 10th, 2017 at 1:19am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
Study on how soon we will hit 1.5°C temperature increase

Quote:
Abstract

Global temperatures could exceed 1.5 degrees Celsius above their preindustrial levels within the next 15 years, according to a new scientific study, crossing the first threshold under the Paris climate agreement and placing the world at a potentially dangerous level of climate change.


Remember the three main icesheets are on the verge of collapse, well almost so. More warming would not be good. Remember, the Eemian period 125,000 years ago was maybe a bit hotter than today—and had sea levels nine metres higher than today.

Quote:
The study focuses on a natural planetary system known as the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation, or IPO (it’s also sometimes referred to as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation). It’s an alternating pattern of ocean temperatures that shifts periodically between warm and cool phases, helping to drive temperature and weather patterns all over the world.

During cool, or “negative,” phases, tropical regions of the Pacific Ocean tend to be colder, and the global mean temperature is lower. The system is similar to the El Niño/La Niña cycle, the major difference being that phases of the IPO tend to last much longer — sometimes a decade or more. The phenomenon is believed to be a natural form of climate variability unrelated to human-caused climate change, although it does have the potential to influence the progression of global warming.


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2017GL073480/full

So, what phase is the IPO/PDO in and is it likely to move to another phase?

Quote:
For most of the 2000s, the IPO has been in a negative phase, and scientists think its cooling effect has helped to slightly offset the effect of climate change. . .


Quote:
Many scientists believe that the planet is now transitioning back into a positive, or warm, phase, which could amplify, rather than offset, human-caused climate warming. This means we could reach milestone temperature thresholds faster than we would if the IPO had remained in its negative phase. 

That’s the conclusion of the new study, written by Henley and Andrew King of the University of Melbourne. Using model projections of future climate warming under a business-as-usual scenario, they suggest that the Earth could hit the 1.5-degree temperature threshold as early as 2025, while the continuation of the negative phase probably would delay this event until after 2030. 


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/05/09/earth-could...

With those three huge icesheets already on the verge of collapse hitting 1.5°C increase is not what we want to do.

So, bugger off any new coal fired generators, time to implement an emissions intensity scheme or a fullblown, traded cap and trade ETS.

How can we protect against sea level rises? Better start implementing that.

Phase out coal ASAP and replace with renewables plus nuclear as a backup. Plenty of aging coal fired generators that will be shut down soon anyway.

What coastline will go regardless of what we build as sea defences? What will that do to acquifers? LOTS of policy issues.

Dr someone blah blah blah was on the internet ...the AUSRA guy... in 2007 or thereabouts , acknowledging that the 440ppm level for co2 was going to be breached no matter what happened. If that equals 1.5C I don't know or give a shite but that is what he said aeons ago and it is common knowledge!


Dr someone blah blah blah was on the internet ...the AUSRA guy... in 2007 or thereabouts , acknowledging that the 440ppm level for co2 was going to be breached no matter what happened. If that equals 1.5C I don't know or give a shite but that is what he said aeons ago and it is common knowledge!

Dr someone blah blah blah was on the internet ...the AUSRA guy... in 2007 or thereabouts , acknowledging that the 440ppm level for co2 was going to be breached no matter what happened. If that equals 1.5C I don't know or give a shite but that is what he said aeons ago and it is common knowledge!


Dr someone blah blah blah was on the internet ...the AUSRA guy... in 2007 or thereabouts , acknowledging that the 440ppm level for co2 was going to be breached no matter what happened. If that equals 1.5C I don't know or give a shite but that is what he said aeons ago and it is common knowledge!

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Re: How soon will we hit 1.5°C and will it matter?
Reply #23 - Sep 10th, 2017 at 1:25am
 
lee wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 9:48pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 9:32pm:
Will absorb some of the extra heat as they melt but more warmth will arrive. We are looking at 9m sea level rise.


Oh, Is that the deep ocean that Trenberth says the heat is hiding in. Waiting to go BOO and scare us? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Lee hates his children: probably lives in skeletors electorate of crack smokin' tryhards!
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