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Reply #165 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 5:03pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 12:25am:

It's not your or my direction, Gordon, it's the truth. There is no evidence of the Islamism you describe - no Pakistani training camps, no weapons from Saudi Arabia. The Rohinga that have fought back used British WWII weapons and knives.

As the old boy points out, there are inferior tinted races and inferior subhuman ones to them. The Rohinga, of course, were thoroughly massacred by the Burmese army.

While I'm sure many Rohinga are devout Muslims, I'll bet most are just ordinary tinted villagers just trying to survive and bring up their kids. This has been somewhat of a struggle for the past decade as they're banned from employment, owning land, sending their kids to public schools, and now, living in Burma at all.

This is the ultimate Muslim banning, so it comes as no surprise that you, Sprint and the old boy, would be cheering it on.

And if any Muslim or apologist questions it - victim mentality.

No one has the right to not be offended or, it now seems, to live in peace in the country they were born.

Well said.

Actually until this latest phase, this decades long tragedy has been characterised by how little the Rohingya have fought back. No one can possibly be surprised after all thats happened - the pogroms, the systematic destruction of entire communities, the ethnic cleansing and the denial of basic human rights - that the insurgency is finally starting to happen. And no one in their right mind would level the blame at Islam with a straight face. Nor could anyone in their right mind honestly blame the Rohingya for fighting back against military targets.

Yeah sure, all that's fine. But they're Muslims, for crying out loud. Not only do we not have to feel compassion for them, it's obviously all their fault anyway.

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Reply #166 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 5:16pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 4:56pm:

Sure. And if there was some "Islamist" plot going on, wouldn't they be welcome in Bangladesh, Indonesia and cute and cuddly Malaysia?

But They're not. The Rohinga are tolerated in other Muslim countries - if that.

Karnal, are you really sure you want to continue blindly down the path that Islamism and separatist aspirations plays no factor here?

Updated: Oct 20, 2016

Rohingya separatist group received support from pro-Pak Jamaat in Bangladesh

Rohingya Solidarity Organisation (RSO) blamed for last week's terror attack in Myanmar's Rakhine state allegedly received training and support from Bangladesh's outlawed and pro-ISI Jamaat-e-Islami (JeI) which penetrated RSO through Rohingya refugee settlements in the Chittagong area of Bangladesh.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/rohingya-solidarity...

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Reply #167 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:39pm

mothra wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 12:25am:

It's not your or my direction, Gordon, it's the truth. There is no evidence of the Islamism you describe - no Pakistani training camps, no weapons from Saudi Arabia. The Rohinga that have fought back used British WWII weapons and knives.

As the old boy points out, there are inferior tinted races and inferior subhuman ones to them. The Rohinga, of course, were thoroughly massacred by the Burmese army.

While I'm sure many Rohinga are devout Muslims, I'll bet most are just ordinary tinted villagers just trying to survive and bring up their kids. This has been somewhat of a struggle for the past decade as they're banned from employment, owning land, sending their kids to public schools, and now, living in Burma at all.

This is the ultimate Muslim banning, so it comes as no surprise that you, Sprint and the old boy, would be cheering it on.

And if any Muslim or apologist questions it - victim mentality.

No one has the right to not be offended or, it now seems, to live in peace in the country they were born.

Well said.

Actually until this latest phase, this decades long tragedy has been characterised by how little the Rohingya have fought back. No one can possibly be surprised after all thats happened - the pogroms, the systematic destruction of entire communities, the ethnic cleansing and the denial of basic human rights - that the insurgency is finally starting to happen. And no one in their right mind would level the blame at Islam with a straight face. Nor could anyone in their right mind honestly blame the Rohingya for fighting back against military targets.

Yeah sure, all that's fine. But they're Muslims, for crying out loud. Not only do we not have to feel compassion for them, it's obviously all their fault anyway.

Well, karma is a bitch, no?
Muslims have been clearing out the kuffar from 'muslim' lands and they are now cleared out themselves.

In which muslim lands are buddhists given equal rights, Protection, political voice? Oh, that's easy! In... er... nowhere.

Muslims are paid back in their own coin. And they don't like it. Fancy that. Being treated as you treat others. The scandal!!

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Reply #168 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:47pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 4:56pm:

Sure. And if there was some "Islamist" plot going on, wouldn't they be welcome in Bangladesh, Indonesia and cute and cuddly Malaysia?

But They're not. The Rohinga are tolerated in other Muslim countries - if that.

Karnal, are you really sure you want to continue blindly down the path that Islamism and separatist aspirations plays no factor here?

Updated: Oct 20, 2016

Rohingya separatist group received support from pro-Pak Jamaat in Bangladesh

Rohingya Solidarity Organisation (RSO) blamed for last week's terror attack in Myanmar's Rakhine state allegedly received training and support from Bangladesh's outlawed and pro-ISI Jamaat-e-Islami (JeI) which penetrated RSO through Rohingya refugee settlements in the Chittagong area of Bangladesh.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/rohingya-solidarity...

No thanks, Gordon, I'd prefer to keep an open mind.

You?

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Reply #169 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:51pm

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 12:25am:

It's not your or my direction, Gordon, it's the truth. There is no evidence of the Islamism you describe - no Pakistani training camps, no weapons from Saudi Arabia. The Rohinga that have fought back used British WWII weapons and knives.

As the old boy points out, there are inferior tinted races and inferior subhuman ones to them. The Rohinga, of course, were thoroughly massacred by the Burmese army.

While I'm sure many Rohinga are devout Muslims, I'll bet most are just ordinary tinted villagers just trying to survive and bring up their kids. This has been somewhat of a struggle for the past decade as they're banned from employment, owning land, sending their kids to public schools, and now, living in Burma at all.

This is the ultimate Muslim banning, so it comes as no surprise that you, Sprint and the old boy, would be cheering it on.

And if any Muslim or apologist questions it - victim mentality.

No one has the right to not be offended or, it now seems, to live in peace in the country they were born.

Well said.

Actually until this latest phase, this decades long tragedy has been characterised by how little the Rohingya have fought back. No one can possibly be surprised after all thats happened - the pogroms, the systematic destruction of entire communities, the ethnic cleansing and the denial of basic human rights - that the insurgency is finally starting to happen. And no one in their right mind would level the blame at Islam with a straight face. Nor could anyone in their right mind honestly blame the Rohingya for fighting back against military targets.

Yeah sure, all that's fine. But they're Muslims, for crying out loud. Not only do we not have to feel compassion for them, it's obviously all their fault anyway.

Well, karma is a bitch, no?
Muslims have been clearing out the kuffar from 'muslim' lands and they are now cleared out themselves.

In which muslim lands are buddhists given equal rights, Protection, political voice? Oh, that's easy! In... er... nowhere.

Muslims are paid back in their own coin. And they don't like it. Fancy that. Being treated as you treat others. The scandal!!

Strange. I distinctly remember visiting the world's biggest Buddhist temple -

In Indonesia.

Or one of South East Asia's biggest Hindu temples - in cute and cuddly Malaysia.

Shurely shome mishtake, nein?

Karma, innit.

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Reply #170 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:58pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:51pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 12:25am:

It's not your or my direction, Gordon, it's the truth. There is no evidence of the Islamism you describe - no Pakistani training camps, no weapons from Saudi Arabia. The Rohinga that have fought back used British WWII weapons and knives.

As the old boy points out, there are inferior tinted races and inferior subhuman ones to them. The Rohinga, of course, were thoroughly massacred by the Burmese army.

While I'm sure many Rohinga are devout Muslims, I'll bet most are just ordinary tinted villagers just trying to survive and bring up their kids. This has been somewhat of a struggle for the past decade as they're banned from employment, owning land, sending their kids to public schools, and now, living in Burma at all.

This is the ultimate Muslim banning, so it comes as no surprise that you, Sprint and the old boy, would be cheering it on.

And if any Muslim or apologist questions it - victim mentality.

No one has the right to not be offended or, it now seems, to live in peace in the country they were born.

Well said.

Actually until this latest phase, this decades long tragedy has been characterised by how little the Rohingya have fought back. No one can possibly be surprised after all thats happened - the pogroms, the systematic destruction of entire communities, the ethnic cleansing and the denial of basic human rights - that the insurgency is finally starting to happen. And no one in their right mind would level the blame at Islam with a straight face. Nor could anyone in their right mind honestly blame the Rohingya for fighting back against military targets.

Yeah sure, all that's fine. But they're Muslims, for crying out loud. Not only do we not have to feel compassion for them, it's obviously all their fault anyway.

Well, karma is a bitch, no?
Muslims have been clearing out the kuffar from 'muslim' lands and they are now cleared out themselves.

In which muslim lands are buddhists given equal rights, Protection, political voice? Oh, that's easy! In... er... nowhere.

Muslims are paid back in their own coin. And they don't like it. Fancy that. Being treated as you treat others. The scandal!!

Strange. I distinctly remember visiting the world's biggest Buddhist temple -

In Indonesia.

Or one of South East Asia's biggest Hindu temples - in cute and cuddly Malaysia.

Shurely shome mishtake, nein?

Karma, innit.

Rights, political equality, you devious little paki propagandist, not tourist attractions in Bali.

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Reply #171 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:59pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 4:56pm:

Sure. And if there was some "Islamist" plot going on, wouldn't they be welcome in Bangladesh, Indonesia and cute and cuddly Malaysia?

But They're not. The Rohinga are tolerated in other Muslim countries - if that.

Karnal, are you really sure you want to continue blindly down the path that Islamism and separatist aspirations plays no factor here?

Updated: Oct 20, 2016

Rohingya separatist group received support from pro-Pak Jamaat in Bangladesh

Rohingya Solidarity Organisation (RSO) blamed for last week's terror attack in Myanmar's Rakhine state allegedly received training and support from Bangladesh's outlawed and pro-ISI Jamaat-e-Islami (JeI) which penetrated RSO through Rohingya refugee settlements in the Chittagong area of Bangladesh.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/rohingya-solidarity...

No thanks, Gordon, I'd prefer to keep an open mind.

You?

Don't you think the only sensible discuss to be had now is about the proportionality of the Burmese response?

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Reply #172 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 3:38am

Gordon wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:59pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 4:56pm:

Sure. And if there was some "Islamist" plot going on, wouldn't they be welcome in Bangladesh, Indonesia and cute and cuddly Malaysia?

But They're not. The Rohinga are tolerated in other Muslim countries - if that.

Karnal, are you really sure you want to continue blindly down the path that Islamism and separatist aspirations plays no factor here?

Updated: Oct 20, 2016

Rohingya separatist group received support from pro-Pak Jamaat in Bangladesh

Rohingya Solidarity Organisation (RSO) blamed for last week's terror attack in Myanmar's Rakhine state allegedly received training and support from Bangladesh's outlawed and pro-ISI Jamaat-e-Islami (JeI) which penetrated RSO through Rohingya refugee settlements in the Chittagong area of Bangladesh.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/rohingya-solidarity...

No thanks, Gordon, I'd prefer to keep an open mind.

You?

Don't you think the only sensible discuss to be had now is about the proportionality of the Burmese response?

I don't call it a "response" at all, Gordon. I call it genocide.

I'm only referencing the U.N, you know.

I'm not sure if they've been Yangon though.

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Reply #173 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 3:43am

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:51pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 12:25am:

It's not your or my direction, Gordon, it's the truth. There is no evidence of the Islamism you describe - no Pakistani training camps, no weapons from Saudi Arabia. The Rohinga that have fought back used British WWII weapons and knives.

As the old boy points out, there are inferior tinted races and inferior subhuman ones to them. The Rohinga, of course, were thoroughly massacred by the Burmese army.

While I'm sure many Rohinga are devout Muslims, I'll bet most are just ordinary tinted villagers just trying to survive and bring up their kids. This has been somewhat of a struggle for the past decade as they're banned from employment, owning land, sending their kids to public schools, and now, living in Burma at all.

This is the ultimate Muslim banning, so it comes as no surprise that you, Sprint and the old boy, would be cheering it on.

And if any Muslim or apologist questions it - victim mentality.

No one has the right to not be offended or, it now seems, to live in peace in the country they were born.

Well said.

Actually until this latest phase, this decades long tragedy has been characterised by how little the Rohingya have fought back. No one can possibly be surprised after all thats happened - the pogroms, the systematic destruction of entire communities, the ethnic cleansing and the denial of basic human rights - that the insurgency is finally starting to happen. And no one in their right mind would level the blame at Islam with a straight face. Nor could anyone in their right mind honestly blame the Rohingya for fighting back against military targets.

Yeah sure, all that's fine. But they're Muslims, for crying out loud. Not only do we not have to feel compassion for them, it's obviously all their fault anyway.

Well, karma is a bitch, no?
Muslims have been clearing out the kuffar from 'muslim' lands and they are now cleared out themselves.

In which muslim lands are buddhists given equal rights, Protection, political voice? Oh, that's easy! In... er... nowhere.

Muslims are paid back in their own coin. And they don't like it. Fancy that. Being treated as you treat others. The scandal!!

Strange. I distinctly remember visiting the world's biggest Buddhist temple -

In Indonesia.

Or one of South East Asia's biggest Hindu temples - in cute and cuddly Malaysia.

Shurely shome mishtake, nein?

Karma, innit.

Rights, political equality, you devious little paki propagandist, not tourist attractions in Bali.

Borobudur's in Java, old boy, They're Muslims.

Rights, political equality, the details hardly matter.

These people are tinted.

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Reply #174 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:18pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 3:43am:

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:51pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 12:25am:

It's not your or my direction, Gordon, it's the truth. There is no evidence of the Islamism you describe - no Pakistani training camps, no weapons from Saudi Arabia. The Rohinga that have fought back used British WWII weapons and knives.

As the old boy points out, there are inferior tinted races and inferior subhuman ones to them. The Rohinga, of course, were thoroughly massacred by the Burmese army.

While I'm sure many Rohinga are devout Muslims, I'll bet most are just ordinary tinted villagers just trying to survive and bring up their kids. This has been somewhat of a struggle for the past decade as they're banned from employment, owning land, sending their kids to public schools, and now, living in Burma at all.

This is the ultimate Muslim banning, so it comes as no surprise that you, Sprint and the old boy, would be cheering it on.

And if any Muslim or apologist questions it - victim mentality.

No one has the right to not be offended or, it now seems, to live in peace in the country they were born.

Well said.

Actually until this latest phase, this decades long tragedy has been characterised by how little the Rohingya have fought back. No one can possibly be surprised after all thats happened - the pogroms, the systematic destruction of entire communities, the ethnic cleansing and the denial of basic human rights - that the insurgency is finally starting to happen. And no one in their right mind would level the blame at Islam with a straight face. Nor could anyone in their right mind honestly blame the Rohingya for fighting back against military targets.

Yeah sure, all that's fine. But they're Muslims, for crying out loud. Not only do we not have to feel compassion for them, it's obviously all their fault anyway.

Well, karma is a bitch, no?
Muslims have been clearing out the kuffar from 'muslim' lands and they are now cleared out themselves.

In which muslim lands are buddhists given equal rights, Protection, political voice? Oh, that's easy! In... er... nowhere.

Muslims are paid back in their own coin. And they don't like it. Fancy that. Being treated as you treat others. The scandal!!

Strange. I distinctly remember visiting the world's biggest Buddhist temple -

In Indonesia.

Or one of South East Asia's biggest Hindu temples - in cute and cuddly Malaysia.

Shurely shome mishtake, nein?

Karma, innit.

Rights, political equality, you devious little paki propagandist, not tourist attractions in Bali.

Borobudur's in Java, old boy, They're Muslims.

Rights, political equality, the details hardly matter.

These people are tinted.

Indonesia's main tourist attraction. A long abandoned temple restored by the UN.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Rogingya terrorism against Buddhists. Reply #175 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:36pm Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:39pm: In which muslim lands are buddhists given equal rights, Protection, political voice? Oh, that's easy! In... er... nowhere. Malaysia and Indonesia. Next silly question?
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Reply #176 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 7:22pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 6:36pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 10:39pm:

In which muslim lands are buddhists given equal rights, Protection, political voice? Oh, that's easy! In... er... nowhere.

Malaysia and Indonesia. Next silly question?

Yeah, right.

July 20, 2017
(Jakarta) –The Indonesian government should scrap a draft law on the protection of religious rights that reinforces existing regulations that discriminate against religious minorities, Human Rights Watch said today.

In cuddly Malaysia:
The relationship between sharia and civil law remains unresolved in the legal system, although civil courts generally refrain from making judgments contradicting sharia courts when the jurisdictions intersect, in particular with family law cases that involve both Muslims and nonMuslims. The government continued to bar Muslims from converting to another religion and imposed fines, detentions, and canings on those classified under the law as Muslim who contravene sharia codes. Christians continued to face difficulty in using the word “Allah” to denote God. In April the government amended the sedition laws; changes included the criminalization of speech that “promotes ill will, hostility or hatred on the grounds of religion.” Even before the amendment, however, sedition laws had been used against those deemed to be insulting Islam, with one opposition politician sentenced to 16 months in prison for a social media posting. In April the government announced it would support states seeking to implement Islamic penal law (hudud). Prime Minister Najib Razak gave several speeches during the year suggesting Malaysia would not accept “liberal” definitions of human rights that stray from the tenets of Islam.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Rogingya terrorism against Buddhists. Reply #177 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:19pm Budhists have equal rights in any meaningful sense of the word. As for protection and political voice - you haven't even touched those, because you know they are there in both Indonesia and Malaysia.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98944	Re: Rogingya terrorism against Buddhists. Reply #178 - Sep 15^th, 2017 at 8:52pm I've seen nearly as many Chinese and Hindu temples in cute and cuddly Malaysia as mosques. Which is it - stupid or mendacious?
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