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Reply #150 - Sep 12^th, 2017 at 9:43am

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 9:30am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 4:39am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 4:22am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 2:35am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 1:14am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:07pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 6:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 9:00am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 8:33am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:51am:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:18am:

its usually pretty hard to upset the buddhists.
there are a lot of other ethnic groups in the area.

what did the rogingya do to incite such animosity?

It's not hard to upset the old boy, Aquascoot. He has the right to not be offended.

What did the Rohinga do?

They made the Burmese military ban them, kill them and landmine their villages so they can't return. Never ever.

Fair's fair. I'm sure that if the Bangladeshis were killing off their Buddhists, you'd be blaming the refugees too, no?

I blame Islam, but that's just me.

but( on song sue chi) won the nobel prize for peace.
she seems like a lovely lady. and she's the boss.
buddhist monks arent exactly reknowned for being uncalibrated hot heads.

i sincerely doubt that the rogingya were just minding their own business when on-song and the monks suddenly had a light bulb moment and decided to become "terrorists".

that scenario doesnt pass the sniff test.

Burma's been a military jaunta for over 30 years, Aquascoot. The monks don't run the army. Neither does Aung San Suu Kyi.

The generals would laugh at you if you thought that passed the sniff test.

and yet i have seen many comments about buddhist monks??
why do the military (the defenders of the nation) wish to evict them??

Not many, Aquascoot - one or two monks have been vocal against the Rohinga, that's all. Referring to the Burmese, the Dali Lama made it clear that Buddhism is not about coming down on people of other faiths. The Dali Lama is not in the Burmese Theravada tradition, but is probably the most revered Buddhist leader in the world.

Monks and Aung Saan Su Kyi have nothing to do with the military, who still run Burma. Remember, oppression is not the way of the superior man. Killing and torturing are not on the "narrow road to success".

The Rohinga are being systematically killed and exiled by the Burmese generals. Call it ethnic cleansing. Sure people fight back - call it resistance.

I have no idea why the generals have declared the Rohinga stateless, and nor does the U.N, the NGOs or ASEAN. The rest of South East Asia is currently taking in the refugees, so tbey're not happy about it.

It's worth noting that, aside from posters on internet forums, no one is blaming Islam. The world is blaming the Burmese generals. Mind you, I have no idea what tbey're thinking inside Burma. The Burmese are still heavily monitored by the secret police there.

And the generals aren't talking.

Tell us all, Karnal, what kicked off the harsh Burmese crackdowns since 2012.

Do you dare say? Will it upset your narrative of rohinga innocence?

I don't know. Will you dare say?

How bout this. You Google it, and see if you can post it without breaking your narrative

Now now, Gordon, if I was tinted, that would be the soft bigotry of low expectations.

Of course I've Googled it. Can you imagine me posting on something without any clue whatsoever? Moi?

Oh, of course you can imagine - you want me to Google it for you.

Sorry, old boy, we'll have to practice soft bigotry on this one.

Oh stop your virtue signalling for crying out loud.

The simple facts of the matter are that Gordy saw Muslims working in shops in Myanmar. How could anyone possibly be being oppressed while "they" are working happily in shops?

You don't know, Karnal. You've never been there.

Excuse me, Mother, Gordon only said he had the chicken biryani. He never did say whether it was cooked by a towel head.

The UN's just declared the situation in Burma as a genocide. Ridiculous, I know.

How many of them have been to Bagan?

So easy to say from the comfort of your leafy enclave,

Gordy showed me a photo and stuff. Of a bona fide Muslim in a shop in Myanmar. His hat was presented as evidence.

Therefore he knows more than you. Capiche?

Just being somewhere, irrespective of how much you understand your surroundings, means you win. I, for example, know everything about my whiter than white bread esplanade. Fully versed on how everyone feels and how they have always felt.

I've talked to people in shops.

Yes, but why would Buddhist monks be committing genocide if the Muselman didn't start it first?

Tell me that.

genocide?

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Reply #152 - Sep 12^th, 2017 at 6:22pm

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

Yes Hammer. Genocide.

It;s probably the Muslim's fault though. Something in the Quran about a mindless collectives of Jews.

Anyway, they're Muslims. Do we need a reason?

We don't need a reason, but I'd love Gordon to post the results of that Google search he's doing into the cause of this mess.

In the absence of that, we'll keep asking the question: why would peaceful Buddhist monks and Nobel peace prize laureates be committing genocide if the Rohinga weren't Muslims?

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Reply #153 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:14am

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

Yes Hammer. Genocide.

It;s probably the Muslim's fault though. Something in the Quran about a mindless collectives of Jews.

Anyway, they're Muslims. Do we need a reason?

We don't need a reason, but I'd love Gordon to post the results of that Google search he's doing into the cause of this mess.

In the absence of that, we'll keep asking the question: why would peaceful Buddhist monks and Nobel peace prize laureates be committing genocide if the Rohinga weren't Muslims?

You seem to be sticking to claim that Islamism has played no factor. Are you really sure you want to continue with that?

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Reply #154 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:36am

The terror in Myanmar.....

I BLAME THOSE ZIONISTS!!!!!

Israel behind massacre of Muslims in Myanmar......

Surely this is NOT too bizarre a claim, that it cannot be repeated by those ISLAMISTS loving and Israel hating leftists at the ABC ??!!

Surely not ?

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By Robert Spencer on Sep 11, 2017 03:40 pm

Iran’s World Assembly of Islamic Awakening top dog: Israel behind massacre of Muslims in Myanmar

There is abundant good reason to doubt the establishment media accounts of what is happening in Myanmar, but as far as Ali Akbar Velayati is concerned, the establishment media reports are to be taken at face value, and could only be the fault of...the Jews.

The Qur’an depicts the Jews as inveterately evil and bent .....

Google

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Below, we have yet another moslem, who is trying to convince a wider infidel audience, that the infidel, truly deserves to,
DIE!

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By Robert Spencer on Sep 11, 2017 01:33 pm

Afghanistan: Wheelchair-bound Muslim murders Spanish Red Cross worker at rehabilitation center

The obligation to “kill them wherever you find them” (Qur’an 2:191, 4:89, 9:5) doesn’t end if you’re incapacitated.

“Spanish Red Cross worker killed by patient in Afghanistan: ICRC,” AFP, September 11, 2017:

A Spanish physiotherapist working for the Red Cross in northern Afghanistan was shot and killed Monday by a wheelchair-bound patient, in the latest.....

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Q.
Why can't those leftists and ISLAM-o-PHILES just acknowledge, the truth,
that because we are not moslems,
and because we don't go to the mosque to pray to Allah,
ISLAMISTS simply, and 'righteously', hate us, and want to kill us ?

A.
Is it because those leftists and ISLAM-o-PHILES have a driven obsessive mental 'tick', which causes them to be compelled to appease ISLAMISTS, whenever an ISLAMIST tells him/her, that they are moslems and they are being persecuted by non-moslems ?

THE TRUTH....

ISLAMISTS simply hate us, and are religiously obligated to kill us [whenever it is 'convenient' for them] !!
....because we are not moslems !!

It isn't rocket science.

!!!!

Duh!

"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101

"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

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Reply #155 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 6:32pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 1:19am:

Frank wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 9:58pm:

Tinted barbarians monstering tinted recalcitrants - white man's burden? Or can we say to them, 'you are equal, you sort yourselves'. Why is it whitey's fault when tinted people are racist to other tinted people?

Sorry, old chap, I must have missed something. Who said it was whitey's fault?

Feeling guilty about something? Would you like to share?

Feel free to free associate. Get it off your chest, you'll feel better.

It's the halfwits like Mother and you who always clamour for the West to do something about tinted people being horrible to each other.

Because we tried to civilise them a century ago and so now they despise us for showing their shortcomings to them. They will never forgive the white man for trying to drag them into civilisation. That surly sullen hate is their cultural meal ticket for endlessly blaming whitey for their own squalor and the horrors they visit on each other.

Ang Sang Sooki was the poster girl of Third World liberation and 'demokraci'. Look at her now. She is now like the generals before her. They are all the same.

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Reply #156 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 6:35pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:14am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

Yes Hammer. Genocide.

It;s probably the Muslim's fault though. Something in the Quran about a mindless collectives of Jews.

Anyway, they're Muslims. Do we need a reason?

We don't need a reason, but I'd love Gordon to post the results of that Google search he's doing into the cause of this mess.

In the absence of that, we'll keep asking the question: why would peaceful Buddhist monks and Nobel peace prize laureates be committing genocide if the Rohinga weren't Muslims?

You seem to be sticking to claim that Islamism has played no factor. Are you really sure you want to continue with that?

Actually, I claimed that it is a factor. Now, after doing some reading, I'm not so sure.

You?

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Reply #157 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 6:38pm

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 1:19am:

Frank wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 9:58pm:

Tinted barbarians monstering tinted recalcitrants - white man's burden? Or can we say to them, 'you are equal, you sort yourselves'. Why is it whitey's fault when tinted people are racist to other tinted people?

Sorry, old chap, I must have missed something. Who said it was whitey's fault?

Feeling guilty about something? Would you like to share?

Feel free to free associate. Get it off your chest, you'll feel better.

It's the halfwits like Mother and you who always clamour for the West to do something about tinted people being horrible to each other.

Because we tried to civilise them a century ago and so now they despise us for showing their shortcomings to them. They will never forgive the white man for trying to drag them into civilisation. That surly sullen hate is their cultural meal ticket for endlessly blaming whitey for their own squalor and the horrors they visit on each other.

Ang Sang Sooki was the poster girl of Third World liberation and 'demokraci'. Look at her now. She is now like the generals before her. They are all the same.

Them? The UN is us.

No one has even come remotely close to saying Whitey should do something. Give what you can to the Red Cross or MSF - that's my only solution.

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Reply #158 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 6:48pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 12:00am:

Frank wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

OK so now they want a truce and ceasefire. If you asked them two weeks ago for a truce, they would have praised Allah and shot you. But now they are losing, and it looks like Allah is not quite as concerned about them as the Korans tell them.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41216527

Did you read the words after the headline, Issue? We call this an article.

Trying to turn the Rohinga issue into an Islamist plot is ludicrous. This is ethnic trouble in Burma. Some are predicting the Shan and Karen are next.

Are 'some' predicting that? How concerning. Tut,tut, 'some', very bad indeed.

I'd say you've rather exposed yourself here, dear boy. Your response to a humanitarian crisis where thousands have been killed, hundreds of thousands have flooded into the neighbouring country and the Burmese military is busy setting landmines around Rohinga villages to stop their return is who cares? They're only tinted. Wasting tears on these people is oppressive. The only humane thing to do is watch them kill each other off and, as always, blame Islam.

Have I captured your view precisely enough? Let me know if I've missed anything. I'm taking virtue signalling, soft bigotry and all the other cliches you use to objectify the slaughter of men, women and children as on the record.

Feel free to respond with the idiot post.

Would you like to march into Burma and do a bit of regime change? You know, overthrow the horrible genocidal pin up girl of democracy Ang Sang Sooki and bring them democracy and the Anglo representative democracy?

WHat's your plan of action, other than hand wringing and talking crap once again?

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Reply #159 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:14pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:14am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

Yes Hammer. Genocide.

It;s probably the Muslim's fault though. Something in the Quran about a mindless collectives of Jews.

Anyway, they're Muslims. Do we need a reason?

We don't need a reason, but I'd love Gordon to post the results of that Google search he's doing into the cause of this mess.

In the absence of that, we'll keep asking the question: why would peaceful Buddhist monks and Nobel peace prize laureates be committing genocide if the Rohinga weren't Muslims?

You seem to be sticking to claim that Islamism has played no factor. Are you really sure you want to continue with that?

Actually, I claimed that it is a factor. Now, after doing some reading, I'm not so sure.

You?

Damn, one step forwards two steps back. I was actually going to take a step in your direction tonight, but there's not much point if you truly think Islamism is not a part of the equation.

BTW when you're riffing with Mothra at 3am, saying stuff like they deserve it because they're tinted. Just thought I'd let you know, a big % of the people in Myanmar are tinted. It's truly the most multi-cultural county I've been to. I don't think their skin colour is a factor. HTH.

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Reply #160 - Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:55pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:14am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

Yes Hammer. Genocide.

It;s probably the Muslim's fault though. Something in the Quran about a mindless collectives of Jews.

Anyway, they're Muslims. Do we need a reason?

We don't need a reason, but I'd love Gordon to post the results of that Google search he's doing into the cause of this mess.

In the absence of that, we'll keep asking the question: why would peaceful Buddhist monks and Nobel peace prize laureates be committing genocide if the Rohinga weren't Muslims?

You seem to be sticking to claim that Islamism has played no factor. Are you really sure you want to continue with that?

Actually, I claimed that it is a factor. Now, after doing some reading, I'm not so sure.

You?

Damn, one step forwards two steps back. I was actually going to take a step in your direction tonight, but there's not much point if you truly think Islamism is not a part of the equation.

BTW when you're riffing with Mothra at 3am, saying stuff like they deserve it because they're tinted. Just thought I'd let you know, a big % of the people in Myanmar are tinted. It's truly the most multi-cultural county I've been to. I don't think their skin colour is a factor. HTH.

All tinted are good but some tinted (sons of Mohammered) are better than the kuffar tinted. Always side with the sons of Mohammed, tomorrow belongs to them.

That's da Paki's and Mother's stance in their very own nutty as squirrell shite shell and they are here to work for that glorious Mohammedan future.

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Reply #161 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 12:10am

Frank wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 6:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 12:00am:

Frank wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 3:11pm:

OK so now they want a truce and ceasefire. If you asked them two weeks ago for a truce, they would have praised Allah and shot you. But now they are losing, and it looks like Allah is not quite as concerned about them as the Korans tell them.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41216527

Did you read the words after the headline, Issue? We call this an article.

Trying to turn the Rohinga issue into an Islamist plot is ludicrous. This is ethnic trouble in Burma. Some are predicting the Shan and Karen are next.

Are 'some' predicting that? How concerning. Tut,tut, 'some', very bad indeed.

I'd say you've rather exposed yourself here, dear boy. Your response to a humanitarian crisis where thousands have been killed, hundreds of thousands have flooded into the neighbouring country and the Burmese military is busy setting landmines around Rohinga villages to stop their return is who cares? They're only tinted. Wasting tears on these people is oppressive. The only humane thing to do is watch them kill each other off and, as always, blame Islam.

Have I captured your view precisely enough? Let me know if I've missed anything. I'm taking virtue signalling, soft bigotry and all the other cliches you use to objectify the slaughter of men, women and children as on the record.

Feel free to respond with the idiot post.

Would you like to march into Burma and do a bit of regime change? You know, overthrow the horrible genocidal pin up girl of democracy Ang Sang Sooki and bring them democracy and the Anglo representative democracy?

WHat's your plan of action, other than hand wringing and talking crap once again?

I just told you what it is, so I'm curious. Why are you wailing about regime change?

Your screen seems to have frozen, old boy. Again.

Superior technology, innit.

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Reply #162 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 12:25am

Gordon wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 9:14am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:18pm:

Yes Hammer. Genocide.

It;s probably the Muslim's fault though. Something in the Quran about a mindless collectives of Jews.

Anyway, they're Muslims. Do we need a reason?

We don't need a reason, but I'd love Gordon to post the results of that Google search he's doing into the cause of this mess.

In the absence of that, we'll keep asking the question: why would peaceful Buddhist monks and Nobel peace prize laureates be committing genocide if the Rohinga weren't Muslims?

You seem to be sticking to claim that Islamism has played no factor. Are you really sure you want to continue with that?

Actually, I claimed that it is a factor. Now, after doing some reading, I'm not so sure.

You?

Damn, one step forwards two steps back. I was actually going to take a step in your direction tonight, but there's not much point if you truly think Islamism is not a part of the equation.

BTW when you're riffing with Mothra at 3am, saying stuff like they deserve it because they're tinted. Just thought I'd let you know, a big % of the people in Myanmar are tinted. It's truly the most multi-cultural county I've been to. I don't think their skin colour is a factor. HTH.

It's not your or my direction, Gordon, it's the truth. There is no evidence of the Islamism you describe - no Pakistani training camps, no weapons from Saudi Arabia. The Rohinga that have fought back used British WWII weapons and knives.

As the old boy points out, there are inferior tinted races and inferior subhuman ones to them. The Rohinga, of course, were thoroughly massacred by the Burmese army.

While I'm sure many Rohinga are devout Muslims, I'll bet most are just ordinary tinted villagers just trying to survive and bring up their kids. This has been somewhat of a struggle for the past decade as they're banned from employment, owning land, sending their kids to public schools, and now, living in Burma at all.

This is the ultimate Muslim banning, so it comes as no surprise that you, Sprint and the old boy, would be cheering it on.

And if any Muslim or apologist questions it - victim mentality.

No one has the right to not be offended or, it now seems, to live in peace in the country they were born.

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Reply #163 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 1:31pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 12:25am:

It's not your or my direction, Gordon, it's the truth. There is no evidence of the Islamism you describe - no Pakistani training camps, no weapons from Saudi Arabia. The Rohinga that have fought back used British WWII weapons and knives.

As the old boy points out, there are inferior tinted races and inferior subhuman ones to them. The Rohinga, of course, were thoroughly massacred by the Burmese army.

While I'm sure many Rohinga are devout Muslims, I'll bet most are just ordinary tinted villagers just trying to survive and bring up their kids. This has been somewhat of a struggle for the past decade as they're banned from employment, owning land, sending their kids to public schools, and now, living in Burma at all.

This is the ultimate Muslim banning, so it comes as no surprise that you, Sprint and the old boy, would be cheering it on.

And if any Muslim or apologist questions it - victim mentality.

No one has the right to not be offended or, it now seems, to live in peace in the country they were born.

Well said.

Actually until this latest phase, this decades long tragedy has been characterised by how little the Rohingya have fought back. No one can possibly be surprised after all thats happened - the pogroms, the systematic destruction of entire communities, the ethnic cleansing and the denial of basic human rights - that the insurgency is finally starting to happen. And no one in their right mind would level the blame at Islam with a straight face. Nor could anyone in their right mind honestly blame the Rohingya for fighting back against military targets.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98963	Re: Rogingya terrorism against Buddhists. Reply #164 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 4:56pm Sure. And if there was some "Islamist" plot going on, wouldn't they be welcome in Bangladesh, Indonesia and cute and cuddly Malaysia? But They're not. The Rohinga are tolerated in other Muslim countries - if that.
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