Received the book today, will be posting bits from it for a while.

Reading about the history of the discovery of AGW will maybe provide a way some can get to understand the theory.

AGW is real enough. In Ice Watch I posted a video by a scientist who has studied the ice sheets for some decades talking about how the three main icesheets are showing signs of destabilisation leading to collapse. You may have heard of the Thwaites Glacier—I posted quite a bit of information about it, might find that, bring it to the front and update it. Should give some point to looking at the history of how the Greenhouse Effect was discovered.

The history seems to start with Fourier. Tyndal and Arrhenius took it up. Will leave their stories for later but point out these early scientists were living and working at a time when the Little Ice Age was slowly ending. Keep that in mind and you will understand why Arrhenius phrased some of his results.

Poor Arrhenius—took him MONTHS of pencil and paper calculations and even then he had to simplify drastically!

First installment likely tomorrow.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 24^th, 2017 at 12:21pm:



What timeframe are you putting on the LIA?

Do you know what a parameter is, Cpl Lees?

You don’t know what a parameter is?

You don’t know what a parameter is?


I do


Its shorter than a meter, its for the Veggie Olympics so they don't have to run, jump,swim as far as ordinary athletes.


No need to thank me, just doing my job.

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Seems to me you better wait for a REAL CONCENSUS and a REAL ACCEPTED THEORY Monk.

Grendel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

I think it is great that there is discussion, checking and refinements.

That the greenhouse effect is real and is causing temperature increases is not up for debate but the amount of warming, the effects of the warming, the severe weather effects, storm frequency and intensity etc etc all up for debate, measurement etc.

But they are wrong that not a lot is being done: coal is out of favor, renewable energy is being implemented nearly everywhere etc. US emissions actually have been decreasing for some time even as their economy picked up speed after the GFC.

With idiots like trumpy coal won’t make a comeback but the east coast of the US is not being protected against sea level rise. Truly the act of an imbecile, trumpy reversed the Obama direction that coastal infrastructure be built to be proof against floods. Won’t reverse AGW but will cost the US a lot of money, maybe lives.

No it is because of sea level rise.

Whatever, I predict there will be a big flood there within five years leading to geo-engineering with aerosols.