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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39225 Gender:	Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP Reply #150 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:17pm Mr Baron, none of that establishes either a Constitutional or absolute common law right to freedom of speech in Australia. Googling is not going to get you over the line. There is no freedom of speech in Australia.
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Reply #151 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:22pm

Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.

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Reply #152 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Mr Baron, none of that establishes either a Constitutional or absolute common law right to freedom of speech in Australia.

Googling is not going to get you over the line. There
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no freedom of speech in Australia.

No one mentioned that except you, what was claimed was implied freedom of speech. You arent following this too well. Changing other posters statements wont get you over the line here.

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Reply #153 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:31pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.

No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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Reply #154 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:34pm

rhino wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Mr Baron, none of that establishes either a Constitutional or absolute common law right to freedom of speech in Australia.

Googling is not going to get you over the line. There
is
no freedom of speech in Australia.

No one mentioned that except you, what was claimed was implied freedom of speech. You arent following this too well. Changing other posters statements wont get you over the line here.

Really? See Post 115 which kicked the discussion off....

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Last time I checked this was a Democracy with the words..Freedom of Speech included in our Constitution

You can't have Freedom of Speech then a list of exclusions, you either have it or you don't

You are always late for the Party aren't you Rhino, always almost the bridesmaid.

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Reply #155 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:35pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 6:16pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 5:50am:

I remember mentioning in another thread the dangers of mixing corrupt, self serving parasititic politicians and lazy, criminal, self serving parasite muzzos together.

Australia is doomed.

Time to find another country smart enough to keep the CULT out.

Oh yeah, thats right, politicians everywhere are too stoooopid to do that.

There is nowhere to go.

We id doomed

I will donate towards Valkie's ticket out of Australia.

I'd certainly give you some money so you'd piss off back to India.

And moi?

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Reply #156 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 8:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 6:38pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 6:17pm:

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If the Federal Court has held that Australians have an implied right to Freedom of Speech I would call that significant

Give me the link to the actual case....then I'll read it. I bet you can't.

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The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.

In Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills (1992) 177 CLR 1 and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v the Commonwealth (1992) 177 CLR 106, the majority of the High Court held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an incident of the system of representative government established by the Constitution. This was reaffirmed in Unions NSW v New South Wales [2013] HCA 58.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/freedom-information-opinion-and-expression

Where is the reference to freedom of speech?

It is in the post you quoted Aussie.

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Reply #157 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 8:11pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.

True, Gonads. The two world wars involving France, Britain and Germany were quite nice by comparison.

Ah, the good old days.

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Reply #158 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 8:19pm

freediver wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 8:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 6:38pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Quote:

If the Federal Court has held that Australians have an implied right to Freedom of Speech I would call that significant

Give me the link to the actual case....then I'll read it. I bet you can't.

Wink

The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.

In Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills (1992) 177 CLR 1 and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v the Commonwealth (1992) 177 CLR 106, the majority of the High Court held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an incident of the system of representative government established by the Constitution. This was reaffirmed in Unions NSW v New South Wales [2013] HCA 58.

https://www.humanrights.gov.au/freedom-information-opinion-and-expression

Where is the reference to freedom of speech?

It is in the post you quoted Aussie.

Highlight it for me Effendi...the words...

freedom of speech.

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Reply #159 - Jul 31^st, 2017 at 9:03pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.

No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.

again the apologists try to blame anyone other than the violent retarded CULT that breeds these violent young men.

EVERY muzzo is a potential terrorist.

SO Called moderate muzzos openly carry placards calling for murder, beheading and worse in the name of their CULT.

What exactly do you think these Moderates would do if they managed to take over.

The majority of muzzos are peaceful and integrate nicely?

Only if you mean live off welfare, engage in criminal activities and behave badly.

Civilization and the islamic CULT do not, cannot and will never mix.

They are diametrically opposed to each other.

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU

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Reply #160 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 2:52pm

This is an extract from my post No. 146

4.14 The High Court of Australia has stated that freedom of speech is ‘a common law freedom’ and that it ‘embraces freedom of communication concerning government and political matters’:

Doesn't that say freedom of speech is a common law freedom

You of all people should know that the majority of the law in this land is drawn from Common Law

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Reply #161 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 3:06pm

mothra wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.

No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.

Karnal is a jerk who is into playing soldier, they're murdering filth. You are talking about violent rapists and mass murderers and if you can't tell the difference your a fkken idiot.

And their mass murderers and rapists vastly out weigh their small numbers, out of a population of 5 million non-muslims NSW has 4 people dangerous enough to warrant Super-max. Where as muslims only numbering 260 000 produce 32 people so dangerous that they need to be locked up in Super-max and their numbers are growing.

So if anything you are under reacting, but apologist will tend to do that won't they?

They're angry fkken lunatics because their religion makes them believe bullsh1t fantasies about being rewarded for murdering women and children. Angry

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Reply #162 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 3:08pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Gnads wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Mothballs their supporters are many

there didn't use to be many in France, Britain, Germany etc. but that's changed in a relatively short time

you need to wake up, wash the sleep out of your eyes,

have a cup of coffee & smell the real air.

Instead of that fetid & warm air that you've been experiencing whilst your head has been up your posterior.

No. You're overreacting. The overwhelming majority of Muslims are perfectly peaceful and have integrated nicely.

Some red-blooded young jerks are playing soldier. Big deal. Every group has them. Foolish young men. They grow out of it or they go to jail.

And life goes on.

I'd rather think about why all of these young men are getting so angry. I have compiling a short list.

again the apologists try to blame anyone other than the violent retarded CULT that breeds these violent young men.

Actually, you're the apologist.

You want to shift the blame to religion ("CULT").

I blame the violent young men.

It's about time you did the same.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Australia's first female Muslim MP Reply #163 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 3:13pm The Terrorist problem is a universal problem experienced in recent times by Western Countries, namely because the I.S.I.S. Cult has declared a Jihad against the West
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Reply #164 - Aug 1^st, 2017 at 3:13pm

red baron wrote on Aug 1^st, 2017 at 2:52pm:

This is an extract from my post No. 146

4.14 The High Court of Australia has stated that freedom of speech is ‘a common law freedom’ and that it ‘embraces freedom of communication concerning government and political matters’:

Doesn't that say freedom of speech is a common law freedom

You of all people should know that the majority of the law in this land is drawn from Common Law

They can change and disappear at the stroke of a pen.

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