Keeping track of global temperatures:

First half 2016

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/climate-trends-continue-to-break-recor...

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First half 2017

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http://grist.org/article/the-first-half-of-2017-was-the-second-hottest-to-date/

Since the temps were 2016 and 2017 I do not know how temps from 2013–5 are relevant.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:



Your graph purports to go back to 1880.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 8:35pm:



And how much of these are in the Arctic?

lee wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Had a look at notrickszone

Bit better than Adelaide, 16-19°C for the next few days.

Have a look at this, Booby:


See how the Amundsun Sea glaciers are accelerating? (red color) (apart from a few bits here and there that are slowing (blue color) and see how the acceleration outpaces the slight slowdown.)

That is why I say Antarctica is losing net ice. If not now then very soon.

Get used to reality, Booby, or it will kick you very hard up your arse!

Get rid of that survival junk, prepare for increasing heat. Plant a couple of trees to shade your house in summer yet lose their leaves in fall so winter sun can reach your house.

And you are aware of the cause, right?

And you are aware the warming spike in the 40s has been well and truly surpassed? And the cause of he earlier Arctic warming is not operating now, the melting is due to AGW. So is the loss of ice from Greenland and Antarctica.

I had a giggle.

A little.

Why?

Face facts Lees: we are in the 21st century and this year and last year have been the hottest years we know about. Spectroscopy shows the mechanism. Why do you dredge up irrelevant crap to clog up threads?

ho -hum

LOL



Of course the alarmists have always had problems with thermometers and where they are situated.  I'm guessing some may be where they and Monk stick their heads so very frequently.





Oh and lets not forget that the colour and material of monitoring stations used in the US to contain equipment also have a bearing on temperatures that are recorded.

All factual...  oh dearie dearie me.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 6:42am:

The videos are lies, cherrypicking and bullshit.

I pointed out many of the lies and cherrypicking.

Now I have shown real evidence of 2016 and 2017 are the two hottest years we know.

I have posted real evidence of the West Antarctic ice sheet starting to slide into the sea. Not stupid videos! I have posted to show the mechanism behind AGW, the absorption and re-emission of photons of IR.

We are warming. No ice age.

LOL



Of course the alarmists have always had problems with thermometers and where they are situated.  I'm guessing some may be where they and Monk stick their heads so very frequently.





Oh and lets not forget that the colour and material of monitoring stations used in the US to contain equipment also have a bearing on temperatures that are recorded.

All factual...  oh dearie dearie me.

What I think is interesting about the so–called pause:

After the 1998 very strong El Nino temperatures plunged way down. This is what we expect: El Nino heats the globe and when it goes and we get La Nina temperatures drop back to a “normal” level.

Last year we had another strong El Nino and temperature spike. This year we don’t see the big drop in temperatures. Considering how hot 2015 was that is a big surprise.

LOL



Of course the alarmists have always had problems with thermometers and where they are situated.  I'm guessing some may be where they and Monk stick their heads so very frequently.





Oh and lets not forget that the colour and material of monitoring stations used in the US to contain equipment also have a bearing on temperatures that are recorded.

All factual...  oh dearie dearie me.


No refutation from Monk as yet...  just baseless ridicule...

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:


Yeah, But "climate scientists" ^TM homogenise nearby rural stations to conform to the urban stations.

Just like Tom Karl did to the SST's. Adjusted the pristine buoy data up to match the noisy ships' "data".  Because the buoy data was providing a "cool bias".

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 9:46pm:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MdBEtPt63DQ

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 26^th, 2017 at 12:02pm:

Are there any time series graphs on ice loss from that pine island glacier?

roach’s graph doesn’t look like the real graphs I have posted.

Deniers got to deny and don’t care how silly they look doing it.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 2:43pm:

Really?
Maybe they are different eh.
Maybe yours rely on false data and fraud.
You can always check the graph against records.
Pity the records have been fiddled with.
maybe you could look to some modelling figures...  ooops Garbage In Garbage Out.

Why is it you refer to the minor part of the post only Monk?

Grendel wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 3:55pm:

Why would you feel the need to say that?

Grendel wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 9:31pm:

So why say it?

Not very scientific but. . .


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Chatting with this guy now.

Yes, he used the term weather.

The climate bands are moving polewards, as they are here.

In the northern hemisphere where the US is polewards is north.

One down 2 more to go eh Monk...  no use ignoring stuff all the time, its just annoying.

Grendel wrote on Jul 30^th, 2017 at 1:39pm:

lee wrote on Jul 25^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Told you I had a giggle:
[url]he meteorologist Klaus Hager from the Lechfeld finds the discussion about climate change and climate protection ridiculous. Man has little influence on it, he says.
Mr. Hager, we are currently experiencing a winter that is - with the exception of the week after Christmas - not quite one. Can this be seen as a result of climate change?
DISPLAY
Hager: With the keyword "climate change" one is now fast at hand. These assumptions have nothing to do with reality. As an example, I would like to illuminate the Augsburg region when you approach the winter . In a time series of over 60 years, the average temperature in the winter months of December, January and February is minus 0.2 degrees Celsius. In the course of the years, some regularity - for example, that it has become warmer in recent years - is not recognizable.
For the past ten winters: Three were above the average with the temperatures. But six were underneath. And one of them is quite exactly the average temperature. I could also reach other sizes like the absolute temperature minimum reached minus 27.1 degrees 20 years ago. In the years before and after, the temperatures were more or less clearly above. It is a real zigzag course, which does not show any regularity.
What do you conclude from this?
Hager: I can quote only Professor Lauscher from Vienna: "Variations dominate the climate, not trends. In the climate the change is the only constant. "And when you look back in the history of mankind, then ever colder and warmer periods emerge. The Romans drank wine in Augsburg, which in the antiquity was largely cultivated in this region. This was made possible by the climate. Around the year 350 it has gradually collapsed, which was a not inconsiderable reason for the migration of the peoples in the late antiquity. In Eastern European regions the climate has deteriorated in such a way that survival in the long term would not have been possible.
...
Meteorologist finds discussion about climate protection ridiculous - weiter lesen auf Augsburger-Allgemeine: http://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/bayern/Meteorologe-findet-Diskussion-um-Klimaschutz-laecherlich-id32569342.html[/url]

What a heap of crap, it could have been Ajax they were interviewing!

Monk, Monk, Monk...
Why is it YOU run away from the truth?

I'll repost for you eh...

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 31^st, 2017 at 12:07pm:



Wow. And you disagreed with that?

Preliminary July 2017 temperature:

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Got a bit warmer it seems in July compared to June.

In winter

in the alps



Relevance—zero.

In fact, AGW causes more evaporation and consequently more precipitation.

Geez you are thick as three bricks!

The July temperature was G L O B A L !


Your snow in the alps in winter is seasonal and very, very local.

You clearly have no science or mathematics training.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

Good grief....  thickness my man is now well and truly mixed with your inability to see past your nose weather is weather...  climate is measured over longer time periods than a month...  good grief.  talk about missing the point.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 11:58am:


You ignore everything and everyone who challenges your world view...  you can kiss good bye any hopes of being a mod now.

I however will welcome the free-kicks and keep posting points that prove you wrong.

Could mean we are going to get a summer from hell in the Southern Hemisphere.

If we do, the electricity generating and transmission network, especially minus Hazelwood, will not be able to cope.

I am going to make preparations for such a summer from hell. In SA we know just how gimcrack our network is.

I suggest others here consider their options. Of course, the denialists won’t make prepararions, it is only natural variation, the world is cooling yadda yadda.

Lived through a few days of one with no power?

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 7^th, 2017 at 1:40pm:

LOL
Lived through quite a few in my schooldays, no fans no air con...

Remember ACORN-SAT and homogenisation.

Monk dismissed it.

But...

The Australian: BoM faces storm over weather data inaccuracies

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http://climate.copernicus.eu/resources/data-analysis/average-surface-air-tempera...

How July fared in terms of temperature with comparison to the 1981–2010 average.

Hot, including in Australia:
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Of course, Booby is going to wank on and on about Goulburn -10.4C etc. One day he will understand that it is readings over the whole country that determine the temperature record. Not holding my breath until he actually learns that tho!

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 12:09pm:


Is that ACORN-SAT or actual temperatures?

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 1:49pm:


It is not clear from the reference. And we know ACORN-SAT only covers 112 stations. So unless you can prove your assertion, I will decline your kind offer of belief.

You can’t read either:

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/aus/summary.shtml#notes

ACORN-SAT was used.

Why would they be huge?

And?

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 3:25pm:



Yes. Because I can't talk rationally to you, a zealot. You just don't want to know.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 4:02pm:



it is hardly "debate" when you keep posting the same crap.

You still haven’t explained your natural variation “theory” why not do that now?

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 4:12pm:


You don't UNDERSTAND natural variation? Oh dear.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 4:19pm:



Oh dear. Not a mention of that dominant GHG anywhere.

It is clear Lees does not have a credible theory on temperature rises being due to natural variation. He quoted a weird article based on cycles. Supposed to start cooling down from “now” except the “now” was a couple of years ago and it has gotten warmer 

Not just that, the sun has been in its quiet state since the ’80s and still it warms.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 11^th, 2017 at 11:01am:



I guess that's why Marble Bar is suffering unprecedented heat.

"The town set a world record of most consecutive days of 100 °F (37.8 °C) or above, during a period of 160 days from 31 October 1923 to 7 April 1924."

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 11^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:



And in Sunny California they calculate their weather records by the day. The LA Times. Hottest days for a particular date.

It does not invalidate the temperature increase representation.

It is just more pointless bullshit. As brainless a heap of bullshit as Booby’s stupid ice age crap!

Its a natural warming cycle- not linked to anything man made- natural warming cycles are natural and historically a part of earth natural rythms

Educate yourself

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 11^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:



Based on GISTEMP reconstructions? Oh dear.

JM believes youtube is science.